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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
May 17 2013 23:23 GMT
#421
On May 18 2013 07:58 marvellosity wrote:
i'm basically out of this game, unless you guys vote for the troll.

blackmail? bullshit? totally.

that's how strongly i feel about it. his play here is total nonsense.


:|
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
May 17 2013 23:23 GMT
#422
On May 18 2013 08:23 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 07:58 marvellosity wrote:
i'm basically out of this game, unless you guys vote for the troll.

blackmail? bullshit? totally.

that's how strongly i feel about it. his play here is total nonsense.


:|

do you have memory problems answer me
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 17 2013 23:24 GMT
#423
On May 18 2013 08:23 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 08:21 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 18 2013 08:19 marvellosity wrote:
On May 18 2013 08:19 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 18 2013 08:11 marvellosity wrote:
On May 18 2013 08:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
Yes now tell me why that is alignment indicative in any way at all.


because you have at least a basic understanding of how to read me, as witnessed in personality when you read me as town early, yet you antaogonise me here. thanks.

I still fail to see what that has to do with my alignment.

If you want though, I can dig up the games where I misread your townplay as scumplay, I think there should be around two of those.

I wasn't scum in them either. I don't like using that since it makes me sound dumb even though I'm a really smart chap, but there you go.


Now tell me since when do you think I'm actually good enough at this game that the accuracy of my reads reflects on my alignment, because I know that you don't actually think I'm good enough at this game for that to hold water.
And that's a serious jump in mentality, and I have not seen a single reason for it to occur.



please find those games, that would be appreciated.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=389088
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256


when did you find me scum in red team? i don't remember that at all. magic i'm discarding because you were with acro, but if you genuininly thought so in red team, that kinda makes a difference.

Eh, early on i think. Probably.

I remember I drew a picture about it.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 17 2013 23:24 GMT
#424
so maybe i overreacted. i still have no idea why dandel found me at all mafia based on my play so far though,

i think i've been a qtpie so far.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 17 2013 23:25 GMT
#425
@iamperfection, what are your thoughts on some of the people in the thread. you filter mostly reads one liner questions back at people and I am curious as to your opinions.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
May 17 2013 23:26 GMT
#426
On May 18 2013 08:25 Spicydinosaur wrote:
@iamperfection, what are your thoughts on some of the people in the thread. you filter mostly reads one liner questions back at people and I am curious as to your opinions.

i have given some opinions you must not have been reading that closely.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
May 17 2013 23:26 GMT
#427
BH ANSWER MY QUESTION
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 17 2013 23:26 GMT
#428
On May 18 2013 08:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 08:23 marvellosity wrote:
On May 18 2013 08:21 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 18 2013 08:19 marvellosity wrote:
On May 18 2013 08:19 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 18 2013 08:11 marvellosity wrote:
On May 18 2013 08:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
Yes now tell me why that is alignment indicative in any way at all.


because you have at least a basic understanding of how to read me, as witnessed in personality when you read me as town early, yet you antaogonise me here. thanks.

I still fail to see what that has to do with my alignment.

If you want though, I can dig up the games where I misread your townplay as scumplay, I think there should be around two of those.

I wasn't scum in them either. I don't like using that since it makes me sound dumb even though I'm a really smart chap, but there you go.


Now tell me since when do you think I'm actually good enough at this game that the accuracy of my reads reflects on my alignment, because I know that you don't actually think I'm good enough at this game for that to hold water.
And that's a serious jump in mentality, and I have not seen a single reason for it to occur.



please find those games, that would be appreciated.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=389088
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256


when did you find me scum in red team? i don't remember that at all. magic i'm discarding because you were with acro, but if you genuininly thought so in red team, that kinda makes a difference.

Eh, early on i think. Probably.

I remember I drew a picture about it.


I just checked it out. You did call me scum in that game, for no reason as per usual. That does mean i shouldn't find it that unusual in this game. it still stinks though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
May 17 2013 23:27 GMT
#429
On May 18 2013 08:23 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 08:23 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 18 2013 07:58 marvellosity wrote:
i'm basically out of this game, unless you guys vote for the troll.

blackmail? bullshit? totally.

that's how strongly i feel about it. his play here is total nonsense.


:|

do you have memory problems answer me


um no but you're super not relevant right now
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 17 2013 23:27 GMT
#430
Guys, wait!

We're all bitching at each other, which is lovely.

Who are we letting get a free pass?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 17 2013 23:28 GMT
#431
Everyone that's not arguing I'd wager.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
May 17 2013 23:29 GMT
#432
so you dont remember this?
On November 21 2012 08:08 Blazinghand wrote:
So I'm dropping a made meta read on Iamp for his scum play in GSL Mini III and his town play in Liquid City.

Iamperfections' meta as scum is lurking and big gaps between small posts, besides defending himself. As Town he tends to flood with smaller posts but he's always in the thread and interacting with people. Bearing in mind GSL Mini III is an unusually extreme version of Iamperf's meta, it's still indicative-- in fact, Hapa catches him as scum that game based on meta with extreme ease (link).

In this game Iamperfection is doing his typical "bury them in a mountain of posts!" style town play. He has periods of 2-3 hours where he'll post like 10 times, then he'll go away for ~8 hours then come back and do the same. This is how he plays as town.

n terms of associative tells, he interacts with Hapa in a natural way that doesn't seem like they're scum together. I also like this read he makes on kickstart early on (link) that as scum he wouldn't want to. His suspicions of Hapa (link) tie in well with his willingness to last-minute votehop (link).

Although he does defend crossfire here (link) I view that as more a point in his favor than against him, as Crossfire was a liability for the scumteam and was inevitably gonna be lynched. In particular his interaction with marv here (link) and his attempts to get crossfire to play the damn game here (link) and here (link) make it seem like he really genuinely think crossfire is town.

Basically I don't see scum making a post like this: (link) or like this: (link). This is all consistent with a legitimate town-read on cross, which, given the scenario, is a bad move as scum. Cross WAS going to flip eventually and bussing him was optimal scum play.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 17 2013 23:30 GMT
#433
I'm kinda interested in DarthPunk. no real reason. say what you all?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 17 2013 23:30 GMT
#434
On May 18 2013 08:29 iamperfection wrote:
so you dont remember this?
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 08:08 Blazinghand wrote:
So I'm dropping a made meta read on Iamp for his scum play in GSL Mini III and his town play in Liquid City.

Iamperfections' meta as scum is lurking and big gaps between small posts, besides defending himself. As Town he tends to flood with smaller posts but he's always in the thread and interacting with people. Bearing in mind GSL Mini III is an unusually extreme version of Iamperf's meta, it's still indicative-- in fact, Hapa catches him as scum that game based on meta with extreme ease (link).

In this game Iamperfection is doing his typical "bury them in a mountain of posts!" style town play. He has periods of 2-3 hours where he'll post like 10 times, then he'll go away for ~8 hours then come back and do the same. This is how he plays as town.

n terms of associative tells, he interacts with Hapa in a natural way that doesn't seem like they're scum together. I also like this read he makes on kickstart early on (link) that as scum he wouldn't want to. His suspicions of Hapa (link) tie in well with his willingness to last-minute votehop (link).

Although he does defend crossfire here (link) I view that as more a point in his favor than against him, as Crossfire was a liability for the scumteam and was inevitably gonna be lynched. In particular his interaction with marv here (link) and his attempts to get crossfire to play the damn game here (link) and here (link) make it seem like he really genuinely think crossfire is town.

Basically I don't see scum making a post like this: (link) or like this: (link). This is all consistent with a legitimate town-read on cross, which, given the scenario, is a bad move as scum. Cross WAS going to flip eventually and bussing him was optimal scum play.



I'm liking this a lot. Just sayin'
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
May 17 2013 23:31 GMT
#435
On May 18 2013 02:56 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 02:49 iamperfection wrote:
On May 18 2013 02:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 18 2013 02:47 iamperfection wrote:
On May 18 2013 02:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 18 2013 02:43 iamperfection wrote:
On May 18 2013 02:41 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 18 2013 02:38 iamperfection wrote:
you see to have some self esteem issues dp.

Now would you be more likely to bring them up if you were town or scum. Overall i would say you would be more likely to bring them up as scum. Obviously not super alignment indicative but.......

if you are town dont be a little bitch


Lol what?

you basically said what you do doesn't matter and everyone will sheep marv. ( Which isnt true) Regardless you little woe to yourself is somewhat scummy in my view. Why would a townie come in with an attitude that what they say doesn't matter?


you scum Iamp? Seems like you are taking something completely the wrong way and trying to paint it in the very worst possible light.


enlighten me


On what exactly?

explain to me whats wrong about my argument or what is scummy about it


OK. I was clearly joking around. Then you take one part of that post where marv calls me bad and the town sheeps marv as me saying i don't think what i say matters. Clearly I didn't say that at all. I was poking fun at the many times marv has called me bad in the past and towns propensity for sheeping marv.


The fact you are 'interpreting' things the way you are is scummy.


How do you interpret WoS shouting RAINBOWS! in that same post? That must be a super secret scum tell too surely?

dp seems alright to me.

he was able to answer here pretty quickly might be harder to do that as scum
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 17 2013 23:31 GMT
#436
wanna kill blazing, iamp? i'm totally game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 17 2013 23:33 GMT
#437
On May 18 2013 08:26 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 08:25 Spicydinosaur wrote:
@iamperfection, what are your thoughts on some of the people in the thread. you filter mostly reads one liner questions back at people and I am curious as to your opinions.

i have given some opinions you must not have been reading that closely.


you gave a small thought about sputnik because of his early list and thats about it.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
May 17 2013 23:33 GMT
#438
So I'm not sure what to make of Marv's raging. He's done it before as town but he is a sly fox and I wouldn't put it past him to fake it as scum. That being said I think his decision to not be as mad any more is a reasonable move. I don't want to lynch him today, he's too useful/valuable in general and scum will shot him anyways if he's town.

I have two scumreads right now I want to look into.

2) JarJar. He's off the radar, not posting, active lurker. Don't like it. If he were straight up not posting, that's one thing. IT's another to come in and kinda waffle suspicion at someone then dip out. Not acceptable.

1) Stutters. His inconsistency on meta (link)( has been well-documented by GK. the really damning thing the thing that makes me think scum is this:

On May 18 2013 06:00 Stutters695 wrote:
Right now I could get behind a Vayne lynch. vayne how many games have you played (on TL and in general if you've played on other sites)?


as things were leading into a potential VA lynch stutters basically tries to soft attack VA and deflect responsibility. I eventually realized that VA's BS was not alignment-indicative, but at the time it looked like i was gonna go HAM on VA. Stutters vulture-like opportunism here smacks of scum looking to get on an easy wagon.

Stutters is scum, and I am voting him.

So should you.

##unvote
##vote stutters695
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
May 17 2013 23:33 GMT
#439
On May 18 2013 08:31 marvellosity wrote:
wanna kill blazing, iamp? i'm totally game.

possibly so much time marv

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
May 17 2013 23:33 GMT
#440
On May 18 2013 08:30 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 08:29 iamperfection wrote:
so you dont remember this?
On November 21 2012 08:08 Blazinghand wrote:
So I'm dropping a made meta read on Iamp for his scum play in GSL Mini III and his town play in Liquid City.

Iamperfections' meta as scum is lurking and big gaps between small posts, besides defending himself. As Town he tends to flood with smaller posts but he's always in the thread and interacting with people. Bearing in mind GSL Mini III is an unusually extreme version of Iamperf's meta, it's still indicative-- in fact, Hapa catches him as scum that game based on meta with extreme ease (link).

In this game Iamperfection is doing his typical "bury them in a mountain of posts!" style town play. He has periods of 2-3 hours where he'll post like 10 times, then he'll go away for ~8 hours then come back and do the same. This is how he plays as town.

n terms of associative tells, he interacts with Hapa in a natural way that doesn't seem like they're scum together. I also like this read he makes on kickstart early on (link) that as scum he wouldn't want to. His suspicions of Hapa (link) tie in well with his willingness to last-minute votehop (link).

Although he does defend crossfire here (link) I view that as more a point in his favor than against him, as Crossfire was a liability for the scumteam and was inevitably gonna be lynched. In particular his interaction with marv here (link) and his attempts to get crossfire to play the damn game here (link) and here (link) make it seem like he really genuinely think crossfire is town.

Basically I don't see scum making a post like this: (link) or like this: (link). This is all consistent with a legitimate town-read on cross, which, given the scenario, is a bad move as scum. Cross WAS going to flip eventually and bussing him was optimal scum play.



I'm liking this a lot. Just sayin'


having read that, I now remember it! It didn't come to mind previously though.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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