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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 28 2013 09:53 GMT
#2701
I don;t know. This seems pretty easy to me. We have 3 100% townies and 3-4 anti town out of 5 players remaining. not that bad a spot.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 28 2013 09:59 GMT
#2702
Other than the fact that town can lynch correctly every day and still most likely lose you mean? ^_^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 28 2013 10:03 GMT
#2703
On May 28 2013 18:59 marvellosity wrote:
Other than the fact that town can lynch correctly every day and still most likely lose you mean? ^_^

Yeah. Other than that. Do we lose if we lynch the serial killer?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 28 2013 10:07 GMT
#2704
We probably lose immediately if we lynch the Serial Killer, and we probably lose in a horrible long drawn out affair if we lynch mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 28 2013 10:07 GMT
#2705
That said, lynching mafia gives town more chances for night actions to have a lucky turn of events; e.g. Movie Mini Mafia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 28 2013 10:18 GMT
#2706
another thought crossed my mind. Scum could have shot into a Bulletproof SK. so that could explain the night kill being blocked without one of s0lstice/GK being SK.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 28 2013 10:26 GMT
#2707
It's true. The pro bluesnipes could have been the SK choosing some hilarious targets.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
May 28 2013 12:37 GMT
#2708
On May 28 2013 11:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
the mafia is just being too obvious here, can it get more obvious that my team of WoS/s0lstice/GK is the remaining scum?

Vayne, I doubt that all 3 scum would pile on the same target w/ nobody else voting for me. I think WoS legit believes that I'm scum, he's been on me all game. I'm pretty sure solstice is scum though and is just piling on me, this is who I'd prefer we lynch today. And as for GK, I think that if he's not town, he's SK. Obviously I'd rather he get lynched then myself but if we lynch the sk, there's a good chance we lose the game.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 28 2013 12:50 GMT
#2709
Yeah I want to lynch s0lstice still.

##vote: S0lstice
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
May 28 2013 12:51 GMT
#2710
anyone wants to talk about my read on him i'll be here for the next few hours at least.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
May 28 2013 12:53 GMT
#2711
On May 28 2013 13:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 12:44 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On May 28 2013 10:01 s0Lstice wrote:

It can't be a coincidence that just about everyone in this game has wanted to kill GK at some point. This is just a guess, but my gut tells me that he is the SK, and the scum team pegged him early. The best way for them to deal with the SK is to lynch him, for obvious reasons....hence all the heat he has been getting from all sides.
I find it strange that you'd say this and then vote for me since I've been saying that I think GK is town all game.

Like, this is cleary Soltice just putting his vote on the townie that is most likely to be mislynched. I'm gonna reread a bunch tomorrow but I don't really recall him saying I've been scummy @ all this game. Like, can anyone actually read soltices filter and figure out the reason he's voting for me?

Like, look at this shit.
When did he EVER mention Solstice before this point?
On May 28 2013 13:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
Actually, that's pretty interesting.
WARNING: PRE-FLIP ASSOCIATION

Very easy upon his red flip to give Solstice easy towncred with the reverse suspicion. Completely distanced himself from Solstice all game and solstice himself flip-flops constantly throughout the game as to whether or not JJD is town or scum.

Hmmmm.
Well, I'm not gonna flip red. I'm gonna flip green and the game will be over. Now obviously me telling you this isn't gonna make a difference to you. But think about it logically:

What you're saying makes sense. If soltice and I were both scum, him jumping on my wagon for seemingly no reason and then me subsequently calling him out about it would seem like a decent play for us to make if we thought there was a good chance I'd be lynched today. I understand why you'd make that association.

But also my post makes sense. If I'm town and Soltice is scum, doesn't it look like he's just trying to wagon the mislynch? Like I said, s0lstice has given very little reason for voting me.

In either scenario, there is just no way s0lstice is town. Lynch him today so we don't autolose. If you still think I'm his scumbuddy tomorrow then we'll talk about it then. But @ least the game wont be over.

JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
May 28 2013 12:54 GMT
#2712
##vote: S0lstice
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
May 28 2013 14:31 GMT
#2713
VOTE COUNT

goodkarma(1): VayneAuthority
JarJarDrinks (3): WaveofShadow, s0Lstice, goodkarma
s0Lstice (2): DarthPunk, JarJarDrinks

Not Voting (2): marvellosity, grush57

JarJarDrinks is set to be lynched. Deadline is in ~6.5 hours.

Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
May 28 2013 14:36 GMT
#2714
Yea I really don't think lynching a townie (read: me) is our best move right now.

JJ: a little more explanation. Since our player pool remaining is pretty small, I'm starting by removing the town reads (DP and WoS). This leaves marv, grush, you, vayne, and GK. Only one of those is town. I was reading WoS' filter last night as I was trying to decide, after Marv, who I wanted to kill. I didn't explicitly say in thread that I liked what WoS wrote, but that was the reason for my vote. You are correct though that I haven't talked about you much.

That said, I did my own legwork this morning to verify that WoS and my thoughts were in line. Looking at your filter, they're not.

This post got tucked in the back of my mind, but its relevant based on BH's flip.

On May 18 2013 22:21 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 22:11 marvellosity wrote:
On May 18 2013 22:03 iamperfection wrote:
marv do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum?


Maybe? I understand what you're getting at, but I'm ambivalent about it.

Is he trying to imply that BH and I are scumbuddies? Is that so when BH flips red I don't look quite as good? If you think me and BH are both scum then help me bus him.

##vote: blazinghand

(Sorry if I'm interpretting your post wrong iamp. But that's what I felt like u were saying)


This post too, makes literally no sense to me as a scum post:

On May 22 2013 11:44 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I think the reason everyone is on my case and accussing me of bussing BH is because they don't want to believe that a relative noob was able to ID scum so early in the game. I'd like to point y'all to the last game I played where I got lynched day 1 and called out 2/3 of the scum team in my goodbye post. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=407058&currentpage=14#279

Like what am I really being accused of?

The whole asking for credit for BH's flip? - The posts that s0Lstice quoted were all in reference to the same thing: DP calling me a top scumread. Most of those quotes were in the same exchange w/ marv.

As for misinterpreting iamps post: Marv, you admitted that he wasn't very clear in his meaning. You really don't believe I could have jumped to that conclusion based on his wording? I even put a disclaimer @ the end of my post that I wasn't sure if that was what he meant.


I don't think there's any way you say this when you know BH is going to flip green. It's too genuine.

Give me more flak for changing my mind if you want, but I think you're town and I don't want to lynch you. I also ask you to have another look at my filter. Lynching me WILL lose us this game.

DP: I'm still not sure I understand why you think I'm scum. Can you elaborate if you are still around?

##unvote
ATOBTTR
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
May 28 2013 14:40 GMT
#2715
VOTE COUNT

goodkarma(1): VayneAuthority
JarJarDrinks (2): WaveofShadow, goodkarma, s0Lstice
s0Lstice (2): DarthPunk, JarJarDrinks

Not Voting (3): marvellosity, grush57, s0Lstice

JarJarDrinks is set to be lynched. Deadline is in ~6.35 hours.

Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 28 2013 14:43 GMT
#2716
yeah I had a hump with those posts too. He's much more inactive than he was though which is pretty concerning. Haven't had the time/energy to properly scour his filter though, will do so this evening in plenty of time for the lynch.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 28 2013 14:44 GMT
#2717
s0lstice, for what reasons is DP your strongest townread (give or take) and I'm your biggest scumread? What's the massive difference between us?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
May 28 2013 14:44 GMT
#2718
Time is short for me the rest of the day, and I'll likely be forced to phone post in the afternoon and up to the deadline.

Marv/vayne/grush and GK as the SK. This has to be it, unless I'm severely screwing up my read on DP.

I know I can write a case on Marv (I know Marv, you asked me to), and if I can find time for it today I will. Aside from JJ's filter, I was also looking at Vaynes.

One important thing I noticed is that its like he's making 'scum reads' in a vacuum...or like mailing them in. They don't seem to coincide to any push to get someone lynched, and he doesn't seem to care that nobody is listening. He is content to make scum reads and then watch the thread do what it's going to do. If I have time, I'll flesh this out a little. I need to look at his newb town games and see if he attempted to push anything on anybody.

On other thing that also sticks out from memory is when he was attempting to do NK analysis on Spicy's death, I pointed out that he was a parity cop, and thus couldn't be breadcrumbing us towards any target. He was like 'oh ok' and then stopped analysis. No attempt to give it another go, or revise his thoughts with this crucial bit of information, he was just done....like he really didn't care what results came from the analysis/the analysis was a pretense.
ATOBTTR
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 28 2013 14:46 GMT
#2719
s0lstice, don't waste your time writing a case on me, it'll be genuinely terrible.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 28 2013 14:54 GMT
#2720
On May 28 2013 23:46 marvellosity wrote:
s0lstice, don't waste your time writing a case on me, it'll be genuinely terrible.

Lol this fucking attitude marv.
Nothing but shutting people down all game, how is this not suspicious?

Also will be phoneposting most of the day. Can't guarantee I will be around but i am still pushing for JJD when I can.
Grush needs to fucking show up, and marv what are you doing today? Do you want solstice or GK lynched or would you lynch JJD with me?

Why would solstice as scum remove his vote from the strongest wagon when the one on him has a chance of picking up steam? Another sac if both scum? Assuring one of them is in the clear after lynch? I can't tell. Defs not sure about solstice atm
I have to relook into solstice's points on JJD as well but I feel like they weren't amazing.
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