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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 02:21 GMT
#1991
WoS you haven't commented on my GK post other than to say I put a lot of effort into it. Do you think my arguments are good or bad? do you agree or disagree?
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Blazinghand *
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May 22 2013 02:24 GMT
#1992
On May 22 2013 10:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
With the focus on BH today, I feel a lot of players are taking the safe path today by not posting much and coasting to the vote. Very scummy.


Spicydino is absolutely correct. If my lynch is a sure thing, then so be it-- but let's not be silent, let's use our time. I will be a confirmed town player in like 20 hours, but that doesn't mean we can't do anything beforehand.

you seem to agree with my read on GK. what do you think of my most recent case on him?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 03:30 GMT
#2003
JJD, the only two mentions of GK in your filter are here:


On May 20 2013 04:51 JarJarDrinks wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Spicydinosaur


Guess everyone is believing BHs claim. :\

I like a spicy lynch way better then a GK or sputnik lynch.

On May 22 2013 00:12 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 23:41 s0Lstice wrote:
JarJar

I'm going through your filter right now, and unless I somehow missed it, I don't see a single reference to GK.

What's your read and why?
If I haven't mentioned him then nothing must have stood out to me as particularly scummy. I've liked alot of his reads (obviously not his scumread of me but I feel like it was a true read). The not reading his PM thing seems terrible but not really scummy. I think he's probably town.


The second one specifically in response to people noting you've made no reads on him.

I'd like to you to clarify: which of his reads have you liked?

Also, what do you think of this case against him?: (link)

Waiting until I've been lynched to reply to this is super lame btw so reply quickly
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 03:39 GMT
#2006
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Blazinghand *
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United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 03:40 GMT
#2007
okay that's in the wrong thread ignore that
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 03:48 GMT
#2008
is anyone around
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Blazinghand *
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United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 03:52 GMT
#2014
On May 22 2013 12:51 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 12:50 Stutters695 wrote:
Yamato answer my question at the top of the page please. Why aren't you being your usual headstrong self?

I'm lazy today.

I think BH looks a little better right now, but I don't know how much I really feel like moving the lynch off him, or if I even could at this point.


It's plurality. If you think I'm scum, so be it, let's work together until I flip. But by god, if you think I'm town, get your vote off me.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 03:57 GMT
#2018
On May 22 2013 12:49 Stutters695 wrote:
BH can you give me a rundown on what you see in WoS. It doesn't have to be super in depth but when I did a skim of his filter it really didn't seem that bad.


Sure! part of it is this post here (link) which to me looks like scum angling to be ABLE to place a vote on a potential wagon, but not willing to actually lay down his cards. Also, his interactions with me today have struck me as quite "off". I'm not sure why he seems so keen on attacking me for ignoring him when I haven't been ignoring him, or trying to make me look bad when there's no realistic way I'm not getting lynched. Being afk from the thread because you're bored is one thing-- showing up in the thread and posting without trying to contribute on anything other than an essentially predetermined lynch is quite another.

Admittedly, he has recently interacted at GK. That being said, I don't like that he's pushing at and prodding GK without responding to my requests to look at the case I wrote, either. This all seems very off, very not like someone trying.

I get that this isn't the strongest of reads, but his wishywashiness D1 and his play today strike me as scum angling to blend in and look good rather than someone legitimately trying to find things out about the game.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 04:00 GMT
#2019
eating dinner again brb
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 04:12 GMT
#2021
GK please do so before i die so i can respond
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 04:31 GMT
#2030
On May 22 2013 13:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 12:57 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 22 2013 12:49 Stutters695 wrote:
BH can you give me a rundown on what you see in WoS. It doesn't have to be super in depth but when I did a skim of his filter it really didn't seem that bad.


Sure! part of it is this post here (link) which to me looks like scum angling to be ABLE to place a vote on a potential wagon, but not willing to actually lay down his cards. Also, his interactions with me today have struck me as quite "off". I'm not sure why he seems so keen on attacking me for ignoring him when I haven't been ignoring him, or trying to make me look bad when there's no realistic way I'm not getting lynched. Being afk from the thread because you're bored is one thing-- showing up in the thread and posting without trying to contribute on anything other than an essentially predetermined lynch is quite another.

Admittedly, he has recently interacted at GK. That being said, I don't like that he's pushing at and prodding GK without responding to my requests to look at the case I wrote, either. This all seems very off, very not like someone trying.

I get that this isn't the strongest of reads, but his wishywashiness D1 and his play today strike me as scum angling to blend in and look good rather than someone legitimately trying to find things out about the game.

At this point now I'm pretty sure you're scum and trying to piss me off. You are flat-out lying about my contributions in this thread and you say you haven't ignored me yet you didn't respond at all to my shutting down of your earlier post.
Lying BH = scum BH. You want to taunt me to place a vote on a wagon? Fine. Makes more sense than getting Lurker Ion lynched today, not that anyone would listen to me anyway.
##Unvote
##Vote: Blazinghand


When you respond to me and admit your lies in the above post, then we can talk. Until then, I'm continuing my look into GK.



Make sure during your look into GK you check out his meta!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 04:38 GMT
#2032
Also, I definitely never taunted you, I had a scumread on you since D1. Deciding to vote me just as I'm beginning to convince poeple I'm town is a nice touch though. Not very convincing
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 04:42 GMT
#2035
Also WoS, stutters asked me for my read on you and I gave it. I actually taked some info directly from things I've previously written, and assuming you've read my filter or any of my posts, nothing I've said has really been new...
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 04:47 GMT
#2038
On May 22 2013 13:45 s0Lstice wrote:
Pardon me, but what the fuck are you guys doing?

The slip+the reaction should be plenty. If you don't buy the slip, there has been nothing that BH has done in the past while (after dragging ass for over a day) that scum BH couldn't do.

I can't believe I have to be phone posting (I hate phone posting ) to say this.


what specifically about my reactions after the scumslip don't you like? i'm not gonna remake the arguments why it's not invalid, but i'll definitely link you to them.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 04:59 GMT
#2042
On May 22 2013 13:56 Stutters695 wrote:
BH more than anything else I want your thoughts on DI (even if it's just agreeing with my points against him). I really don't like how little you've brought him up period.


Sure, once i'm done with dinner I'll handle a critical examination of him
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 05:32 GMT
#2046
WoS if you think I'm scum, you think I'm scum. That's fine. 2 people think I'm not scum, which means there are still like 8 votes on me-- I'm getting lynched. My read on you is legitimate, and if you think the reason I won't back down on it is my "pride" as opposed to some other thing like being scum, then I'm not sure that's legit. Look, I'm dead today anyways. you can't scare me by threatening to lynch me or vote me.

You can threaten to not interact with me and not discuss my reads to me, and that bothers me, but it won't change my mind about you and it won't make me lie and say I don't think you're scum. I'm not even sure you're scum. You're not my top read, not by a long shot-- and unlike a lot of players you are here trying to discuss this.

If you want, we can not discuss my scumread of you. I'm okay with that. Or we can ignore each other and do our own distinct bests to contribute. I'm also okay with that. I'm not trying to enrage you. I have nothing to lose, I'm dead today-- I'm just doing my best to say "even though I got mislynched, I secured a win for my team"

Death is not the end.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 05:36 GMT
#2047
and yes VA I haven't forgoten you!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 05:50 GMT
#2049
On May 22 2013 14:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 14:32 Blazinghand wrote:
WoS if you think I'm scum, you think I'm scum. That's fine. 2 people think I'm not scum, which means there are still like 8 votes on me-- I'm getting lynched. My read on you is legitimate, and if you think the reason I won't back down on it is my "pride" as opposed to some other thing like being scum, then I'm not sure that's legit. Look, I'm dead today anyways. you can't scare me by threatening to lynch me or vote me.

You can threaten to not interact with me and not discuss my reads to me, and that bothers me, but it won't change my mind about you and it won't make me lie and say I don't think you're scum. I'm not even sure you're scum. You're not my top read, not by a long shot-- and unlike a lot of players you are here trying to discuss this.

If you want, we can not discuss my scumread of you. I'm okay with that. Or we can ignore each other and do our own distinct bests to contribute. I'm also okay with that. I'm not trying to enrage you. I have nothing to lose, I'm dead today-- I'm just doing my best to say "even though I got mislynched, I secured a win for my team"

Death is not the end.

See, you're not even reading my intentions properly.
The reason I think you're scum is because you're deliberately lying.
Fuck not shitting up the thread, I'll show you right now.
In this post alone you do it. I'm not asking you to back down on your scumread of me, but you think I am. I'm asking you to admit your lies that brought you to the scumread. I'm not asking you to say I'm not scum at all.
You say "if you want, we can not discuss my scumread of you," trying to paint me fucking scummy like I'm trying to avoid you, WHEN I FUCKING ASKED YOU MULTIPLE TIMES ABOUT YOUR READ OF ME


Well sorry man, I just don't think of you as like top scum #1. I've made a lot of promises about things I'd read about and reads I'd give, and after briefly discussing you with stutters I had other fish to fry and dinners to eat. Pretending to be mad isn't going to help anyone here.

On May 22 2013 08:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 08:33 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 22 2013 08:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh I see, misunderstanding. I meant do you have scumreads outside of JJD/dandel/GK?


1) 3 scumreads is clearly enough
2) I no longer have a scumread on JJD, if you've been reading my interaction with stutters this page
3) not really a solid scumread on DI, though this is suject to change
4) you


1) Why is that enough? Who are your three?
2) I have been
3) ok
4) elaborate please


1) well, in the event of a 3p SK, there's probably 3 scum, and generally as a rule I try to focus on a small number of scumreads. At the moment, I'd say they're GK, then you and DI in the back (though this needs to be expanded on)
2) clearly you weren't, or you missed posts while writing your posts. You asked what scumreads I had about JJD after I walked back my JJD scumread.
3) ok
4) I'll get to you after I get to some other promises that I made first.



On May 22 2013 08:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 09:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 22 2013 08:46 Stutters695 wrote:
His three would be GK, you, DI in order of scumminess based off of our talks.

Alright I was about to ask where the hell he mentioned me but it appears he posted while I was writing something and I missed it.


I'm curious as to why 3 scumreads is enough. I'd also still like him to elaborate on me because that's a hell of a lot less detail he goes into than he did regarding GK.
I'm modestly sure WoS is scum. He had an extremely flip-floppy post earlier in the game (link). I had him as one of my top scumreads over the course of D1, and it seems like he's fishing for reasons to attack me (like, what? I'm clearly getting lynched today) and not really reading what I have to write today. I'm not as positive on this as I am on my GK scumread though.

A days-old read is not enough imo, especially since he says I was one of his top scumreads and he did absolutely nothing about it. I'm fishing for reasons to attack him as well he says, when in fact I'm trying to cover all avenues and possibilities because as I've said multiple times, I'M NOT sure BH is 100% scum. BH you say I don't read what you've wrote but have you read at all what I've written about you? This is a completely baseless attack on me and reeks of absolutely no effort. Why do I not deserve the effort you seem to have started putting into the game recently?


You STILL have not responded to this.
Now would you like me to point out the points in your discussion of the case with other people where you are lying about me, or would you like to do that yourself?


Um, I don't know where I'm lying about you. Like, most of what I said was literally cut/pasted or paraphrased from previous posts in my filter, so if I was lying now, why didn't you call me out when I said it during D1?

Look WoS, you're being an abrasive guy and I get that that's your thing right now, but don't shit up the thread during my last 12 hours alive. I need to make use of this time. If your goal is to say I'm scum, ok, fine. If you're not sure I'm scum and are trying to determine my alignment as you claim, then go right ahead. I'll answer your questions.

Believe it or not, my read on you is based on in part D1 stuff, as are a lot of my reads in all of my games. Just because it's now D2 (and a very quiet D2 at that, since scum doesn't want to rock the boat of this lynch) doesn't mean what happened D1 doesn't matter. If I had a scumread on you D1 and didn't push it well enough, fine-- that's on me. Sorry for not getting you lynched during D1, when I was playing in 3 games at once.

I've put lots of effort into this game today, but it's spread around. It's not gonna be 50% WoS, 50% non-WoS. From everyone's perspective individually, most of my talking is going to be about people that's not them.

Really though, let's keep it civil. I need to make this time count, whereas you have more time than me to accomplish your goals.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 05:51 GMT
#2050
So just to be clear, WoS: if you call me a liar, it's on you to point out where I'm lying.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2013 05:58 GMT
#2052
On May 22 2013 13:57 s0Lstice wrote:
@bh

I read your arguments. Not buying it in the least. Your reaction was a public face palm no matter how you try to posture it.


It's a reaction I'd make as town. I suppose it's very evident to me I'd make that reaction as town, since I personally know that I'm town, but if you didn't find my arguments convincing you didn't.

On May 22 2013 13:57 s0Lstice wrote:
The best thing is, you don't even need the reaction to make the lynch BH argument. Like I just said, the reads you are scrambling to come up with on your deathbed aren't anything scum BH couldn't do, and do very little to alleviate the massive problem you have with a terrible early filter.

Time for me to sleep now.

Town, if you are letting BH talk you out of this lynch you need to reexamine the entire situation and remember why he is on the block in the first place.


I don't like your drive-by style of play. I'd have liked to hear what you have to say about GK. The comments you've made about GK in the past like 48 hours begin with this:
On May 20 2013 05:45 s0Lstice wrote:
Yea I am not down with lynching GK

and proceed gradually towards an implied scumread on GK. He's on your list of scummy players (link), but you argue with marv about some technicality not really related to your giving a read on GK (link)(link) (link) before making a meta-read that GK is scum (link). you ask JJB to weigh in on GK (link) then comment that GK could be 3p (with no explanation) (link) and that's it.

You've been thinking about, talking about, and pushing for or at least calling scummy GK for the past 48 hours since your initial unwillingness to lynch him during mid D1. You clearly read the thread and my posting here, since you commented on it. What are your thoughts on my case against GK? Do you agree with it or disagree with it?
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