[M][N] Les Mafia - Page 12

On May 22 2013 05:29 marvellosity wrote:


Best not engage in any of the other discourse then!

On May 22 2013 06:36 Blazinghand wrote:
Getting on to my scumreads, I'm absolutely sure at least one mafia was in thread and commenting during the last hour before night end, since they moved their shot onto iamp after he claimed. The people who posted within an hour of night end are grush, wos, stutters, marv, iamp, rayn, gk, and myself. Marv touches on that idea here (link) about an hour after the deadline. I'm gonna remove marv, myself, rayn, and iamp from the list since 2 of those are flipped townies, marv is confirmed town, and I sure aint making a case on myself.

So, I'm looking at grush, wos, sutters, and gk.

I still don't think GK is a good lynch. I've said it once and I've said it again, GK questioning the VA lynch doesn't make him scum, and although his role-pm reading shenanigans are INDEED shenanigans, the guy always has slow starts. Not a good D2 lynch.

Okay, wow actually I take it back

So, my plan was to write this meta case on how GK was actually town, right? But then I went and spent some time remembering and reading notes on how GK plays, and basically it can be summed up like this:


Now, this was a case I wrote in The Game, where, yes, I was scum, but everything written here is true. Town GK is cautious at first, gathering information and momentum, then builds a case and follows it up. Scum GK throws his vote around aggressively and doesn't have followup, going onto whatever wagon happens to become popular. I was planning to open GK's filter and show how he's town, but he is not playing to his town meta, he is playing to his scum meta. Reading GK's filter, his play this game 100% is exactly as he plays as scum. He IMMEDIATELY comes out with a vote on stutters (link), then his next post (after chiding VA) swaps to Grush (link), then after defending himself from an early case he swaps to WoS (link) and he continues the madness all throughout the rest of D1, voteswapping and trying to stay on the popular wagon.

This is literally scum GK. I'll eat my damn hat if it ain't. He's playing to his scum meta, he's also playing objectivity scummy and shitty (where's the followups to his push? what's with that list post? Why no careful analysis buildup?), and he was around when iamp claimed mason.

##vote GoodKarma

On March 17 2013 11:27 Wade Fell wrote:
DYH you say you agree that GK should probably be lynched today. Examining his play in NMMXXIV as town (link) I see a player who posts slowly and doesn't contribute much in the first half of D1, and only really starts writing cases (mostly unfocused and studded with FOSes at other players) as the game progresses. It's only in the later days that he picks up steam and starts hammering on players. In LVII as scum (link), GK comes out punching, immediately posting cases and voting/Fosing, and instead of pushing multiple reads, he changes who he focuses on as soon as his case fails to gain traction (instead of pressing on, trying to really get his target lynched). He also doesn't wait to formulate reads, he _immediately_ starts flopping mud at people.

The GK in this game is the town GK that I've coached and observed extensively. He is cautious, posts rarely, and builds up momentum to be a formidable scumhunter. This is not the kinda uncaring, willing-to-make-any--case scum GK that I've seen. He is not a good D1 lynch. He is not a good vigi shot. He is town.

On May 22 2013 06:46 VayneAuthority wrote:


I asked you what you thought about my reads a little while ago, could you go towards the end of my filter and tell me what you think?

On May 22 2013 06:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
but good point on the switch onto iamp

although, i guess as was pointed out, it's technically possible he was the shot all along, albeit unlikely, seeing as Hapa is not on the player list

On May 22 2013 07:07 Stutters695 wrote:

Let's talk.

I'm curious about your town read on JJD. I'm phone posting so I can't pull the quote since I'm on my phone but someone posted about his meta that seemed pretty damming in addition to his overall scummy stylle. If you have access to a computer can you check out what I'm talking about and give your thoughts. If not I'll pull the quote tomorrow morning and would like your thoughts before the flip.

Also can you clarify your last paragraph (the one about JJD where you say "he may be wrong, but his earnest attack doesn't make sense from a town perspective."

Who's attack doesn't make sense and why doesn't it from a town perspective if both people you're addressing there are people you have town reads on?

On May 22 2013 08:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
BH for someone doing his best to engage people in the thread, you appear to be ignoring me.
Dandel I expect it from. You I don't.

On May 22 2013 08:07 Stutters695 wrote:
Another thing I'd like to get your thoughts on.

I put together a cursory read on DI towards the end on d1/early n1. It might be a little hard to follow considering I didn't quote the posts. I also noticed you've been ignoring him for the most part in your own filter. Can you go over my read/filter dive him and give me your thoughts along with why you've been so silent on a controversial person?

On May 22 2013 07:01 WaveofShadow wrote:

This is your triumphant return to the thread Dandel? I don't understand this meta shit, say something that makes sense to me.

BH now that you finally appear to be giving us reads, you've probably seen the scumreads that a few of us seem to share atm. Do you have anyone who doesn't fit into that list and if so, why? That would be more valuable imo if you somehow flip town.

On May 22 2013 07:05 Blazinghand wrote:
off hand I'd say I think JJD is town, not scum. That being said, I'll take a look at the current consensus and see where I disagree.

On May 22 2013 08:17 Stutters695 wrote:
Also I'd like to bounce some thoughts off you regarding Grush and WoS if that's cool since those were the other two you were looking at (plus me, but if you have any questions about my filter you'll have yo ask those and I'll explain).

On May 22 2013 08:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh I see, misunderstanding. I meant do you have scumreads outside of JJD/dandel/GK?

On May 22 2013 11:08 grush57 wrote:
bh dinner lasts 3 hrs?

On May 18 2013 11:22 grush57 wrote:
gaiz only scum try to lynch me
STARSENSES
herp derp
##Vote: goodkarma

On May 21 2013 04:57 grush57 wrote:
hello.
I have been doing stuff other the weekend.
I was thinking GK was scum now marv just made a case on him.
So I'll vote for him tomorrow.