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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 17 2013 04:11 GMT
#604
Just cause the mods made a mistake, Im scum?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 17 2013 05:25 GMT
#608
On May 17 2013 14:09 Blazinghand wrote:
Well, Zephirdd is definitely town, as before. He wouldn't do this as scum.

Vivax/oats interaction doesn't seem to make a hyooj amount of sense for the oats=scum hypothesis just because, if I were scum and trying to get a stupid nonsensical case going against a somewhat incompetent player, I know I sure as hell wouldn't be doing it against a fellow scum guy. It's possible Vivax was busing/distancing Oats, I get that, but what's more likely to me is Vivax was lazy scum looking for an easy lynch and that Oats would be doable since Oats isn't very good. I don't have to make any weird leaps of logic for the "scum vivax launches a bad attack against incompetent Oats that gets himself lynched" theory. I DO have to make some weird assumptions for the "scum vivax launches a bad attack against his own incompetent Oats scumbuddy that gets himself lynched" theory.

I'm gonna get an associative tell + straight-up scumminess case on someone, probably not Oats, going soon. I'm gonna reread people's mentions of vivax and reread the voteswap shennannies at day end.

ur face is incompetent.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 18 2013 02:11 GMT
#659
DISAPPEARING OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

Friday nights man, busy stuff.

Guys i dont think Sharrant is a good lynch, cause marv said so and sheeping dead confirmed townies is awesome.
Also cause he has shown effort is his posting and its reads like he believes in this shit and is not lying.
Now who is scum?

Deconduo.
What marv said which was,
Hit and run case on Ghost.
Mafia favored plan.


What else that solidified my read on him was
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 04:52 deconduo wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Vivax


Better him than me. Also there really is no case against me...


Look at the attutide here in this post, its an attitude of survival rather than lynching scum. He doesnt say its for consolidation, he says its 'better him than me'. Also his stance for Vivax 30 minutes before the vote is 'not d1 lynch'.
What changed in those 30 minutes deconduo?.
Keep in mind that Vivax flipped scum. Looks like an opportunistic vote to not stand out.
[quote]
I never said I was useless on day 1, just that I don't spontaneously offer reads straight off the bat. Your case was 50% meta which I showed to be invalid. The other half of the case was based on me suggesting a bad plan, which I gave a counterpoint to that you haven't responded to...
[quote]
The case was not 50% meta, it was behavior with a splash of meta thrown in.
His defence to the bad plan was, I didnt think it through. Why would you just spout out a plan without thinking about it? Its more than likely that people will just ignore it and what discussion do you get out of that? No, it was activity for the sake of activity.

[quote]Just popping in for a few minutes, looks like oats slipped hard.

##Vote Oatsmaster[/quote]
Deconduo is thinking here, WOOHOO SCUMSLIP. YES. NO NEED TO 'FIND' A LYNCH. YEAH!!!.
Then he disappears and comes back with
[quote]I agree that oats' play day one wasn't particularly scummy. However that slip us way too blatant for us to ignore as a mistake. First of all oats would have to not read up on how the movement works,secondly the hosts would have to not inform him that he moved illegally and finally the hosts would have to willingly put his move through. If he is a blue that knows his position, why hasn't he at least soft claimed instead of disappearing off the face of the earth.
[/quote]
Dec is not taking into account other possibilities, he is tunneling me cause he cant find anyone else and 'scumslips' make it easy for scum to latch onto.

Gotta go for now, be back in like an hour+
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 18 2013 02:12 GMT
#660
DISAPPEARING OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

Friday nights man, busy stuff.

Guys i dont think Sharrant is a good lynch, cause marv said so and sheeping dead confirmed townies is awesome.
Also cause he has shown effort is his posting and its reads like he believes in this shit and is not lying.
Now who is scum?

Deconduo.
What marv said which was,
Hit and run case on Ghost.
Mafia favored plan.


What else that solidified my read on him was
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 04:52 deconduo wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Vivax


Better him than me. Also there really is no case against me...


Look at the attutide here in this post, its an attitude of survival rather than lynching scum. He doesnt say its for consolidation, he says its 'better him than me'. Also his stance for Vivax 30 minutes before the vote is 'not d1 lynch'.
What changed in those 30 minutes deconduo?.
Keep in mind that Vivax flipped scum. Looks like an opportunistic vote to not stand out.

I never said I was useless on day 1, just that I don't spontaneously offer reads straight off the bat. Your case was 50% meta which I showed to be invalid. The other half of the case was based on me suggesting a bad plan, which I gave a counterpoint to that you haven't responded to...

The case was not 50% meta, it was behavior with a splash of meta thrown in.
His defence to the bad plan was, I didnt think it through. Why would you just spout out a plan without thinking about it? Its more than likely that people will just ignore it and what discussion do you get out of that? No, it was activity for the sake of activity.

Just popping in for a few minutes, looks like oats slipped hard.

##Vote Oatsmaster

Deconduo is thinking here, WOOHOO SCUMSLIP. YES. NO NEED TO 'FIND' A LYNCH. YEAH!!!.
Then he disappears and comes back with
I agree that oats' play day one wasn't particularly scummy. However that slip us way too blatant for us to ignore as a mistake. First of all oats would have to not read up on how the movement works,secondly the hosts would have to not inform him that he moved illegally and finally the hosts would have to willingly put his move through. If he is a blue that knows his position, why hasn't he at least soft claimed instead of disappearing off the face of the earth.

Dec is not taking into account other possibilities, he is tunneling me cause he cant find anyone else and 'scumslips' make it easy for scum to latch onto.

Gotta go for now, be back in like an hour+
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 18 2013 04:07 GMT
#663
On May 18 2013 09:30 ghost_403 wrote:
Just noted that Zephh brought up that maybe Oats is a blue who knew his piece as part of his role. Possible, but I feel unlikely. A blue should (being the operative statement here) have stuck around to try and prove his use to the town. As a power role, they have responsibilities to make sure that they're not dead. That's not his reaction to this situation. Instead, he makes a few less than helpful comments and leaves the thread entirely. Either he's a blue who's rage quit, or he's a scum that got caught.

Or I have real life. Yeah bad timing. Well.

Also to everyone asking, iama VT. ok VT, not blue.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 18 2013 12:21 GMT
#671
Deconduo defended himself by saying. OMGUS. Which it wasnt.
##Vote: Deconduo

On May 18 2013 13:07 Sharrant wrote:
Oats, I like this post from you, but I'd just like you to give me a quick (one paragraph at most and no more than that) explanation of your movement claim. I don't have much time tonight or tomorrow before the deadline, but if you can explain it in a manner that makes sense to me, I'll reconsider. I do like your points on Deconduo, I'm interested in your thoughts on anyone you think is important right now. If I don't think your explanation matches up to what happened, I at least want as much information from you as I can get.

What I sent was 3 up and look up.
The reason why I said 'I wanted to move here' was that I figured that there was probably angels or statues in the area between HB6 and AAU25. So moving up and looking up would be the most efficient way I felt. Then with no one else claiming B, and B is matching my movement, and I think everything else was claimed already right? So I was in the right place that my actions indicated.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 18 2013 14:26 GMT
#679
On May 18 2013 22:04 deconduo wrote:
Well seeing as I don't have much of a choice.

I'm Billy Shipton, a DT that can check people next to me. If I finish the turn next to someone, I get told they are town or not. If I finish next to multiple people, I get told how many are town. This is one of the reasons I suggested that everyone group together, it makes my role much more powerful. I also know that there is no godfather in the game.

I figure as I'm A and oats is B, if I move towards him and he moves towards me I can check him tonight. If I die, you know he's an angel and you can lynch him tomorrow. Alternatively Sentinel is within range of me checking them as well, but I still think oats is a better option.

K sounds like a great idea.
I love being confirmed town .
Or we lynch Deconduo if he survives.

##Unvote
Now ghost. Why is your vote still on me?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 18 2013 14:58 GMT
#681
On May 18 2013 23:52 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 23:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 18 2013 22:04 deconduo wrote:
Well seeing as I don't have much of a choice.

I'm Billy Shipton, a DT that can check people next to me. If I finish the turn next to someone, I get told they are town or not. If I finish next to multiple people, I get told how many are town. This is one of the reasons I suggested that everyone group together, it makes my role much more powerful. I also know that there is no godfather in the game.

I figure as I'm A and oats is B, if I move towards him and he moves towards me I can check him tonight. If I die, you know he's an angel and you can lynch him tomorrow. Alternatively Sentinel is within range of me checking them as well, but I still think oats is a better option.

K sounds like a great idea.
I love being confirmed town .
Or we lynch Deconduo if he survives.

##Unvote
Now ghost. Why is your vote still on me?


So you will move towards me? Grand

Also saying to lynch me if I survive is a bit stupid. While I fully expect to die, whats to stop mafia leaving me alive to save their KP for someone else and waste a lynch on me tomorrow?

Then scum wont shoot you and you get more checks.

Clearly cool strats.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 18 2013 15:01 GMT
#683
On May 19 2013 00:00 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 23:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 18 2013 23:52 deconduo wrote:
On May 18 2013 23:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 18 2013 22:04 deconduo wrote:
Well seeing as I don't have much of a choice.

I'm Billy Shipton, a DT that can check people next to me. If I finish the turn next to someone, I get told they are town or not. If I finish next to multiple people, I get told how many are town. This is one of the reasons I suggested that everyone group together, it makes my role much more powerful. I also know that there is no godfather in the game.

I figure as I'm A and oats is B, if I move towards him and he moves towards me I can check him tonight. If I die, you know he's an angel and you can lynch him tomorrow. Alternatively Sentinel is within range of me checking them as well, but I still think oats is a better option.

K sounds like a great idea.
I love being confirmed town .
Or we lynch Deconduo if he survives.

##Unvote
Now ghost. Why is your vote still on me?


So you will move towards me? Grand

Also saying to lynch me if I survive is a bit stupid. While I fully expect to die, whats to stop mafia leaving me alive to save their KP for someone else and waste a lynch on me tomorrow?

Then scum wont shoot you and you get more checks.

Clearly cool strats.



I don't get more checks if I'm lynched...

Slight deviation from the plan.

How likely do you think it is that you are a zombie in disguise?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 18 2013 15:20 GMT
#685
On May 19 2013 00:17 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 19 2013 00:00 deconduo wrote:
On May 18 2013 23:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 18 2013 23:52 deconduo wrote:
On May 18 2013 23:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 18 2013 22:04 deconduo wrote:
Well seeing as I don't have much of a choice.

I'm Billy Shipton, a DT that can check people next to me. If I finish the turn next to someone, I get told they are town or not. If I finish next to multiple people, I get told how many are town. This is one of the reasons I suggested that everyone group together, it makes my role much more powerful. I also know that there is no godfather in the game.

I figure as I'm A and oats is B, if I move towards him and he moves towards me I can check him tonight. If I die, you know he's an angel and you can lynch him tomorrow. Alternatively Sentinel is within range of me checking them as well, but I still think oats is a better option.

K sounds like a great idea.
I love being confirmed town .
Or we lynch Deconduo if he survives.

##Unvote
Now ghost. Why is your vote still on me?


So you will move towards me? Grand

Also saying to lynch me if I survive is a bit stupid. While I fully expect to die, whats to stop mafia leaving me alive to save their KP for someone else and waste a lynch on me tomorrow?

Then scum wont shoot you and you get more checks.

Clearly cool strats.



I don't get more checks if I'm lynched...

Slight deviation from the plan.

How likely do you think it is that you are a zombie in disguise?


I don't know what you mean?

why do none of you have a sense of humor .
Really boring guys. really boring.
im disappointed.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 18 2013 15:48 GMT
#693
On May 19 2013 00:23 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 00:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 19 2013 00:17 deconduo wrote:
On May 19 2013 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 19 2013 00:00 deconduo wrote:
On May 18 2013 23:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 18 2013 23:52 deconduo wrote:
On May 18 2013 23:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 18 2013 22:04 deconduo wrote:
Well seeing as I don't have much of a choice.

I'm Billy Shipton, a DT that can check people next to me. If I finish the turn next to someone, I get told they are town or not. If I finish next to multiple people, I get told how many are town. This is one of the reasons I suggested that everyone group together, it makes my role much more powerful. I also know that there is no godfather in the game.

I figure as I'm A and oats is B, if I move towards him and he moves towards me I can check him tonight. If I die, you know he's an angel and you can lynch him tomorrow. Alternatively Sentinel is within range of me checking them as well, but I still think oats is a better option.

K sounds like a great idea.
I love being confirmed town .
Or we lynch Deconduo if he survives.

##Unvote
Now ghost. Why is your vote still on me?


So you will move towards me? Grand

Also saying to lynch me if I survive is a bit stupid. While I fully expect to die, whats to stop mafia leaving me alive to save their KP for someone else and waste a lynch on me tomorrow?

Then scum wont shoot you and you get more checks.

Clearly cool strats.



I don't get more checks if I'm lynched...

Slight deviation from the plan.

How likely do you think it is that you are a zombie in disguise?


I don't know what you mean?

why do none of you have a sense of humor .
Really boring guys. really boring.
im disappointed.


Everytime I make jokes people accuse me of being a scum

You clearly make bad jokes.
I make good jokes.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 18 2013 18:28 GMT
#709
i would lynch ghost now actually cause he flipflops(BAD!) and Vivax's case on him kinda read as scum bussing scum softly cause he couldnt do anything else.

##Vote: Ghost_403
I gotta sleep now.

Can we please not fail in lynching someone?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 18 2013 18:30 GMT
#713
On May 19 2013 03:28 Blazinghand wrote:
Oatsmaster, this is important, fferyltt has NEVER TAKEN LEGIT STANCES. he's not playing the game. he's posting once every few days or whatever with oneliners. VOTE HIM


consoldiation!
##Unvote
##Vote: fferyltt

I just feel this is a coinflip lurker lynch. Do we really need to flip him so bad that we cant lynch ghost?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 19 2013 10:33 GMT
#769
Yeah ghost has been really scummy!.
Vivax posted and dropped a case on him, he called me scumslip scum and he didnt bother to do anything after a while, and when it was clear I wasnt gonna be lynched.
##Vote: Ghost
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 20 2013 00:09 GMT
#781
Decon and Oats are already close to each other, with the correct movements Sentinel and me can get to them as well. This is something that we should try to achieve IMO. I'd say ideally we make sure that we lit each other up (increased field of view), but don't get right next to each other (avoid kill through possible puppet) except for decon and Oats. What do you guys say about that?

Yeah sounds good, lets try not and move to the same space.

Weekends are really bad for me in terms of activity, my apologies :/
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 20 2013 02:59 GMT
#790
Ok so the plan is I stand still and dec checks me right?
and Sentinel and phagga move nearer to us?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 20 2013 14:24 GMT
#795
On May 20 2013 23:22 ghost_403 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 19:50 Blazinghand wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm also going to be completely clear here: lynching oats because he sent in night actions phrased in absolute rather than relative directions is shit play and I WILL NOT HAVE IT. Fuck, what if you're the fuckign co-host of this game and you recieve some guy who says "I want to move 2 squares north then 2 squares east while facing north" are you really going to PM the guy back saying "hey man I want you to rephrase that"? Well, maybe, but let me put it this way:

are you willing to stake AN ENTIRE LYNCH on this speculation, OVER your read?

DECONDUO: you admit you think oats d1 play, and I quote, "wasn't particularly scummy" but you still want to lynch him. This is not acceptable, and coupled with your scummy play indicates you are scum.

GHOST: you intially had some concerns about Oats D1, but you admit that such concerns are assuaged by my meta read of Oats. Do you think I'm wrong, or is your vote on him just because of the wording of his movement, as you imply here? (link)
+ Show Spoiler +

FUBA: you interacted with oats several times d1, and you even questioned whether it was wise of him to vote vivax. Is your voting him now based entirely on his wording of his movement, as you imply here? (link)

SENT: you say (link) that if not for the movement thing, Oats would be "above the level of suspicion". Is it really just the movement claim that changes you from utterly unwilling to lynch Oats to voting him?


Honestly, I never bothered to read the game that he referenced. I was trusting in BH's integrity as a player. Only an idiot would give me the wrong conclusion before telling me to come to my own. And, yes, I did vote for him (at that point) strictly on the wording of his answer. His answer implies a certain mindset; one that knows more than us. His actions since then have reinforced my views on him.

Go on and explain please.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 20 2013 14:33 GMT
#797
On May 20 2013 23:26 ghost_403 wrote:
Explain what, Oats?

explain why you want to lynch me including information/posts that are in the thread since you left.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 20 2013 14:44 GMT
#801
On May 20 2013 23:40 ghost_403 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 23:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 20 2013 23:26 ghost_403 wrote:
Explain what, Oats?

explain why you want to lynch me including information/posts that are in the thread since you left.


If anyone other than Oats is interested in my thoughts on this, I'm happy to answer. I believe that I've made myself clear on this, but I'm happy to clear this up for anyone else.

um
Currently you are getting lynched. So I assume you would actually not wanna get lynched? And get me lynched instead? Why do we have to demand it from you?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 20 2013 14:55 GMT
#803
On May 20 2013 23:48 ghost_403 wrote:
@oats: Since you seem to be a bit dense on this, let me spell it out for you. There is literally nothing I can say to change your view of your alignment. I'm not going to waste my breath on that. It's everyone else I have to convince. So if they want me to spell it out, I will.

Now, why don't you tell me who you'd like to lynch next. You've been awfully vague on that.

Lets see, if you flip scum, and deconduo doesnt die, deconduo. I cant believe that mafia would let someone keep confirming townies past 1-2 nights.
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