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VayneAuthority could very well be scum. From his filter he seems like a thoughtful guy but his case on me is just bullshit and when confronted with that he doesn't try to explain himself, he simply launches an ad hominem. Why would he do that if he thinks I'm scum who is just calling his case bad? It seems like he's just uncomfortable with my opinion on him because he knows I'm town. ##Vote VayneAuthority Good night. | ||
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On May 15 2013 07:43 VayneAuthority wrote: pretty much guarantees my opinion that hes scum right here, the old nice cop/bad cop routine. Dude seems cool and thoughtful and blah blah blah....hes scum! doesn't get any worse than that for me. Won't be changing my vote ever. LOL I complain about how he's not acting like he thinks scum and then he goes full "okay i need to act like i think he's scum" and comes up with this. Okay bed for real now. | ||
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It seems genuine and also I actually like some of it, mostly the second part. | ||
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I didn't vote yet. I also think I'd rather lynch kushm4sta. I'll write a case around noon (6 hours from now). | ||
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The guy hasn't notably pushed anything hard this game. He's fine being lurkish and just poking in here and there. I don't really find that to be scummy in itself but it's not a town tell either. What my problem with kusm4sta is is how he's focused on himself and how he himself appears and not about other people. This is especially prevalent in his early game with posts like this and this and this. Those posts have only one purpose: showing people that he doesn't care about how he appears, but by being so blatant about it becomes apparent that he very much cares about how he appears to other players. Contrast his early posts from Dessert Mini Mafia where he was town. In this post which is one of his very first he comes out pretty strong with a "I'm going to tell you a scum read in a second", there's no focus on how he appears but focus only on contributing. Read for yourself, the filters are pretty short: Dessert Mini Mafia This game I also find this post very off. First of all he is promising us something very insubstantial: "more activity", it's really hard to hold people up on that. He's also promising it to us "second half of the game" but when is that? This game could end in a few days or it could drag on until 3 players left. He's promising us nothing and at a time no townie knows when is. I imagine townies who were busy would say "I am busy this weekend, will post something after" or something like that, not say "I am busy for the first half of the game"?! And then look at his latest post: On May 17 2013 10:49 kushm4sta wrote: But if you did get scum, you would still spam. First kushm4sta says that WaveofShadow spams as scum but he has absolutely no way to know this as WaveofShadow has never been scum. He is literally making things up here and there is NO townie motivation for this. His response also seems really nervous in that he makes a weird jokish comment on it like it means nothing when WaveofShadow has actually caught him in a direct lie that no townie would ever make. Would you as town ever say that someone is acting like last time he was scum, when he has never rolled scum before? He also says it in a weirdly reassuring manner "Don't worry guys, just lynch him". Anyway, lets lynch kushm4sta. ##Vote kushm4sta | ||
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On May 17 2013 23:55 Blazinghand wrote: Although you've noted a small thing that he did in one game as town that he's not doing this game, you have failed horribly at meta because you haven't shown that it's something kush does as scum. Meta cases can't just be "I usually see him do this as town and he's not", it has to be "He does X as town and Y as scum, and this game he is doing Y". This is because people's play varies from game to game even within their alignment. People are busier or more or less active or just have good or bad analysis games. Kush hasn't written as much about others as he has in one or two town games. So what?! Show me where he does this as scum OR tell me you have a red check on him OR tell me this is a policy lynch. Until then I will not unvote ##unvote ##vote prplhz LOL are you kidding me? This isn't a meta case, this is me saying that kushm4sta's early game doesn't look like his town game and contains general traits that are indisputably scummy AND he has been caught in a straight up lie that no townie would ever do. No I'm not going to make this into a pure meta case because you vote me. Jesus christ. Seriously look at it: "Kush hasn't written as much about others as he has in one or two town games. So what?!" So what?! So that's a pretty good sign that something might be up. Can anybody tell BlazingHand that he's being completely ludicrous. | ||
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I need to sleep now but we absolutely need a lynch today, lynches are really important and we can't have scum kill three times in a row without us lynching a single person. For some reason kushm4sta isn't happening but I'm kinda fine with HiroPro too. ##Vote HiroPro | ||
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BlazingHand defended kushm4sta from a straight up lie by saying "that's not scummy in itself". Do you understand that kushm4sta straight up lied about something a townie would never lie about and BlazingHand defended him because he had said earlier that he wanted meta on a kushm4sta case? My case had some comparison to Dessert Mafia but BlazingHand said that kushm4sta couldn't be guilty unless I could show that kushm4sta lies as scum. Anybody? @ObviousOne I'd respond to your case on me but it's all about what someone else said. I can't really argue against being on some offhane 3 people list that BlazingHand made at some point in this game. Also, you can check out the timezones, lynch is at 6AM for me and I'm usually not around at that time nor around 6 hours before. Don't like your case at all. I have no idea why people are suddenly going for BlazingHand's main scum read, someone he went out of his way to call scum. If I were scum don't you think he'd just tell me that my case on kushm4sta was bad because it didn't have meta? Instead he actually called me scum because of it and out of nowhere. kushm4sta didn't even give that a single thought, just full tunnel mode engaged. | ||
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I'll look more closely into them. | ||
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On May 19 2013 19:44 kushm4sta wrote: usually a bad play to lynch town. @VE dude you just start screaming in all caps out of no where. Usually a push comes after a case but there wasn't one. I hope you aren't wasting your time writing an epically misguided case on me right now... @PRPLHZ WHAT WAS THE LIE On May 17 2013 10:49 kushm4sta wrote: But if you did get scum, you would still spam. @ObviousOne your case on me is a joke. Just gonna quote this: "1 mafia 2 town? Standard right? Possibly." You are literally saying that I am scum because I was on some arbitrary list where you think scum might or might not be found. Those are your own words. And then I am scum because I don't want to lynch ... one of your town reads. Those are literally your points. You are scrambling in panic to lynch me and I don't like that at all. I don't know what the hell is going on but kushm4sta and ObviousOne are probably scum can we just lynch kushm4sta now? | ||
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Where is marvellosity or yamato77 when you need them. | ||
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On May 19 2013 05:49 kushm4sta wrote: quadruple post for mafia justice. read his filter its only 2 pages there are myriad reasons why the man is scum.. 1 robotic overuse of misapplied meta in his arguments 2 constantly talking about past games instead of this game 3 vayne tunneling him, sure he's scum. then vayne dies 4 his top scumread is hiro d1. Nothing he says ever indicates that that changes. Yet on d2 he makes this random ass out of the blue case on me to distance himself from the hiro mislynch. If you are town and your top scumread has a huge bandwagon, why wouldn't you help push that wagon instead of introducing some lynch that's never going to happen. 5 his longest post in the game is about me. If you think I'm scummy, fine, but my content was so paltry at that time that a wall of text to analyze it is going way overboard. 1 Where? and no I'm not. 2 Where? and no I'm not. 3 I simply just find it weird that you know who scum killed. Three dead on n2, how do you know why they were killed? I doubt that scum even killed them all and I have been under the impression that Vivax killed VayneAuthority and raynpelikoneet and Vivax were scum killed but for some reason you seem to know something that I don't really find very likely and now you're using it to push me. This is horrible night kill speculation just to incriminate me. 4 This is absolutely not what happened you are just making shit up. I got a stronger read on you so I voted for you but you'll notice that my vote was on HiroPro way before the lynch happened. I was concerned with getting a lynch because d1 was a no lynch and I didn't want to give scum 3 rounds of shots before we could get a single lynch off. You're right now complaining that I'm pushing you early in the day when it's not going to happen, well what do you know about what lynches are going to happen? It's the same on d2, you could have gotten lynched but people wanted to go with HiroPro and I wasn't really opposed to that and I really wanted a lynch so 6 hours before deadline when it didn't look like you were getting lynched, I switched to HiroPro. 5 Where did I write a wall of text? Your case is horrible and there isn't a single point in there that even suggests that I'm scum. Your initial case was something like "He's trying to help town" which is completely backwards. | ||
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