EPTHydra Mini Mafia II - Extra Nuke Edition
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SamuelLJackson
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On April 13 2013 08:58 John Matrix wrote: ok I just got modconfirmed town so my work here is done. Syllo will explain why I'm confirmed tomorrow. If he doesn't he's scum. See you, I'm gonna go watch the watchmen again. Because most* hosts are terrible** and only make jokes and interact with players who are town. This literally happens every game. *everyone except you **no offense intended | ||
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On April 13 2013 15:32 MockArmor wrote: The disappointing aspect of the game is that we have a bunch of people waiting for better scumhunters to "carry" them. And yet, their lack of participation makes it that much harder to find scum (like half the people in the game, so they can't all be scum...). At the time of this post the game had been going on for less than 8 hours; did you genuinely find the thread worse than usual and their posting indicative of them waiting for others to "carry" them? Can you make a list of players (should be easy since you suggested that there were many) who you thought were doing this? You named one, but that was just a person who prima facie left due to time zone constraints. | ||
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On April 13 2013 18:12 ShotgunBiceps wrote: Who do you think is the priority right now? Players who haven't by the time of lynch produced meaningful content despite being here and the game being a hydra game. In a hydra format players should be more confident in sharing their thoughts and lacking the need to comment on irrelevant things as they can discuss things with their partner. Meanwhile mafia still feels the pressure of posting. WaveOfCheesecake's has a bunch of fluff, but also a few serious posts that don't give me the impression of a curious townie. His read on you somewhat point towards the other way though regardless of your alignment. | ||
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SamuelLJackson
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On April 13 2013 10:12 VIVAX420 wrote: @hapa only one of those were me.. the all caps one lol. I'd prob think vivax was scum if I wasn't hydrad with him. I guess that is just his playstyle though. I'm serious though you can't be on hapa that is a violation of the rules I think. This feels a bit off. Why do you say that? It doesn't seem to indicate a mindset of a town hydra. When you know someone's alignment this kind of thought isn't very likely to cross your mind, unless it's a more defensive response, indicative of guilt. What about vivax's posts did you find suspicious, even knowing his alignment? | ||
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SamuelLJackson
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Palmar: still interested in your thoughts on Waveofcheese | ||
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On April 13 2013 23:25 raynmaster wrote: SamuelLJackson how sure you are John Matrix is town based on the nuke stuff? Why? /rayn How is this relevant to your interests right now? Do you otherwise find his play suspicious? I'm not wasting time explaining things that have been discussed repeatedly. He isn't "confirmed", but due to the exchange between him and dandel he is very likely to be town and shouldn't be someone who you should worry about right now. | ||
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SamuelLJackson
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On April 13 2013 21:16 FondleMyButtocks wrote: the soft calling of someone as scum through the idea of 'posting somewhere else' of course they are posting somewhere else. I got a qt in my role pm. You got a qt too. We all did, its a hydra game! Stupid way to phrase this, it feels like over justification. It's not "soft calling" when you throw your vote down and stupid does not equal mafia. It was a short, semi serious early game vote post with only one justification. Not at all an "over justification", there was only one reason for the vote. His other reasons for finding vivax420 suspicious look similarly manufactured. The way he words his case and frames vivax420's posts overall does not feel genuine and open-minded (e.g. "supposed to be 420's concise thoughts", "even gives us a lynchable list"). The random comment about wanting to "almost" lynch GK for tradition's sake also looks like kind of fluff mafia likes to add to their post. Phagga are you going to write that mockarmor case? | ||
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SamuelLJackson
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I'm fine with lynching NeutralSrvivngBalrog, the effort they have put into the game so far is disgusting, in particular from a hydra | ||
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[QUOTE]On April 13 2013 16:51 SamuelLJackson wrote: Also it again surprises me slightly that we haven't just made the guy who has the nuke claim that he has it and use it for a double lynch today? Sandroba, having previously created a plan to use nukes in that fashion, clearly should have noticed that possibility. Double lynching is incredibly town favored. We can either do it today or tomorrow, but since our nuke-dude cannot be roleblocked but could be randomly night-killed, why not just do it today? So when the nuke deadline hits (12h before the lynch) we nuke the guy with the most votes, then we ignore him and lynch someone else.[/QUOTE] Because the best case and fairly likely scenario is that no one gets nuked or the mafia nuke gets shot down. If we "double lynch" today don't hit mafia, it's lylo tomorrow, otherwise on day 3. | ||
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If no one claims shooting the nuke, not at all | ||
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On April 14 2013 15:31 raynmaster wrote: Why does EVERYONE not live in timezones that allows me to interact with dudes :/ Syllo and Sandro, why is this your only useful post? In over 30 hours of play, you have 1 post. This post is echoing town sentiment at that point too. Is this still current? Do you have any other reads? You are mischaracterizing or not reading our* filter if you think that's our only useful post. Why is that? *I (syllo) have been made every single post so far, because I'm a moron and promised to take care of the weekend. We didn't expect the game to start this quickly | ||
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SamuelLJackson
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On April 14 2013 10:57 InsertSmurfHere wrote: This thread looks like shit. What the fuck is that giant summary post doing in my town? Goddamn I could lynch him JUST for that post. Why the fuck are Kush, GK/CC, and Mocsta shitting the thread up like it's their fucking job? So many questions, only one lynch to sort them out. Is this Yamato? Palmar why do you think this guy is town? Your summary post isn't helping, can you go back to making one sentence explanations | ||
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On April 14 2013 17:41 raynmaster wrote: Syllo, what is your read on Mocsta? His singular fixation on waveofcheese is a bit suspicious and I don't like how he made a brief remark about agreeing with me on FMB, but then diverted all his attention towards WoC.. Other than that he looks better now and I don't think he is a good lynch today. He has been quite active and the tone seems confident. | ||
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SamuelLJackson
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Why don't you tell me yours? I'm not interested in answering your questions. They don't even make sense; it's very difficult to explain why someone looks "better" and it's not relevant at all. I already gave reasons for not considering mockarmor a priority today and that's all you need to know. | ||
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SamuelLJackson
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On April 14 2013 20:09 FiveTouch wrote: Er... can we have some, like, clarity on who is being called what? I had assumed I/VE were being referred to as "Touchey" and the like, but apparently this is referring to FondleMyButtocks. Cue me wasting my time to see if our filter contained anything to do with syllo's reads on me because that made no sense to me. Anyways, rayn seems to be a pretty hot topic at the moment. I got a kinda townie feeling from him with his stupid/dumb read of being suspicious of VE's reaction to the 'nuke'. I pressed him on it a few times, and it felt like he was legitimately trying to explain it to me rather than just saying it for the sake of saying it, even though it's nonsense. ~marv Oh that makes much more sense. Yes, I just assumed he was talking about FMB. If the snb/drazek remain useless today, I think I slightly prefer them over FMB. SnB is usually pretty active and his few posts seemed more out of obligation than anything. | ||
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On April 14 2013 20:32 syllogism wrote: Arguments that feel genuine point towards town. If they are town they should move on to things that actually matter, however. . | ||
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WaveOfCheesecake: Mockarmor isn't happening today; who do you actually want to lynch. Essentially your whole filter relates to mockarmor directly or indirectly. | ||
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##vote FondleMyButtocks Marvel: if you have something to discuss, now is the time | ||
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On April 15 2013 03:19 FiveTouch wrote: Here's my main issue with FMB, and I get that some of you may call me silly. Seems like the trend of the thread, as far as I'm aware, has been meandering along towards an FMB lynch for some time. If he's mafia, is he really that far gone that the other mafia haven't tried to significantly push an alternate lynch? Seems like we're just gonna lynch FMB and that's that, no real questions asked. syllo, what do you make of this? If I remember correctly you're usually pretty aware of these things. Palmar too. ~marv I'm not sure if I agree with the notion that the thread has been meandering towards fmb lynch, but if prom or snb are mafia and really absent, mafia may have adapted a wait and see approach. That is, waited for the mafia to show up to defend himself. | ||
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On April 15 2013 03:29 FiveTouch wrote: Well, it's been pretty damn clear to me to be honest. Who else do you think the thread has been wanting to lynch? There's been plenty of arguments and plenty of back and forths, some suspicions thrown around, but FMB has been the main dude people are universally suspicious of. This is the kind of thing I see players like you and Palmar talk about in obsQTs. "well when a lynch goes this easily on day 1, it's rarely on mafia." ~marv Who do you want to lynch then? I don't have time to reread, though perhaps sandro will before the deadline. | ||
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On April 15 2013 03:34 FiveTouch wrote: I've been umming and ahhing about lynching NSB, not because I can point to anything specifically scummy in his filter, but because he's even more of a lurker than FMB, and has received disproportionately less attention. ~marv If drazerk/snb are mafia, why did drazerk show up, make a few nonsensical posts and disappear? He doesn't seem to give a shit about his survival, which seems about what I would expect from him as town. | ||
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SamuelLJackson
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On April 15 2013 03:40 FiveTouch wrote: You've been pushing both of them for being contentless all day, drazerk returns to be contentless, but now it's a town-tell because it's contentless? :< ~marv That's a mischaracterization of what I said. I'm referring to his attitude, not suggesting that lack of content is towny. | ||
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SamuelLJackson
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Marvel, since you are here, are any other options viable today in your opinion? I could use some leads on who i should spend my time on. | ||
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On April 15 2013 04:52 FiveTouch wrote: Why didn't syllo think so, sand? s&b, where are you going with that? ~marv P.S. oh yeah. I have no idea. InsertSmurfHere I think are town. probably JohnMatrix too. Other than that I have no idea. No clue, I haven't talked to him at all, besides him complaining about having to post and play on his own. | ||
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On April 15 2013 04:54 FiveTouch wrote: Hapa, there's almost always at least one scum on the main wagon, regardless of the main wagon's alignment. ~marv By this theory, pehaps we should look into waveofcheese then. I'll see what I can dig up. | ||
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On April 15 2013 05:31 InsertSmurfHere wrote: Honestly, at this point I'm not going to lynch Prom. Vivax420/NSB/WWoC Pick one, bros. I could get behind vivax420/nsb/FMB, who looks actually like a good wagon if vivax is scum. I'm not feeling the woc. | ||
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On April 15 2013 13:56 InsertSmurfHere wrote: By that I mean: Until you scumhunt, you die. Can you point to a single thing in my filter that is indicative of me not being straightforward with my thoughts? No, because it's not possible. Your case amounts to a stupid meta assumption of me always, under every circumstances and format, being useful and not lazy. You aren't even trying. | ||
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On April 15 2013 07:38 InsertSmurfHere wrote: No, it was a terrible plan. Terrible. No, you are terrible. It was an incredibly pro-town plan that was only foiled by the fact that you could also nuke over PMs, which I clearly did not know about, because if you work on the assumption that I'm mafia, I would have known that someone would point out the flaw and make the plan would suddenly look pro-mafia. | ||
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On April 15 2013 15:37 Hapahauli wrote: Syllo - the issue here is that you (or sandro) left us promising to read through filters hours before the deadline, and did nothing instead, leaving your vote on what looks to be a guaranteed townie at this point. I didn't promise anything, I said I had 30 minutes and then went to bed. Sandro apparently had to go out for a dinner and it doesn't look like he promised anything either. | ||
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SamuelLJackson
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So just to keep record, so far the reasons for suspecting me have amounted to not understanding timezones, reading comprehension issues and me being slightly less active than usual. Not a single content based reason has been suggested by anyone. But keep pretending as if any of you had a reason for nuking me day 1 | ||
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On April 15 2013 16:59 MockArmor wrote: Yes, though you would have been aware we were deeply entrenched with other scum pursuits; you still decided to throw that back at MA as suspicious. I can not know if he had genuinely reached the same conclusion as I had or just claimed so afterwards. | ||
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SamuelLJackson
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It's an early day 1 case and a lot of other people were very content lynching purely based on a person lurking. Are they being held accountable? The point being, you can not expect a very throughout case on day 1 and it's not my style either. That does not prevent you from analyzing my play. Indeed, people are analyzed based on other aspects of their play all the time. "Accountability" for analysis isn't the main method, at least accountability in the sense that you have to understand why I reached the conclusion I did. In this case there is auxiliary evidence supporting the notion that the read was genuine because someone else had allegedly reached the same conclusion. If you got the idea that I'm calling you or anyone else bad, you got it wrong. What I'm saying it that the decision was wrong, based on faulty evidence and there was NO NEED whatsoever to do that n1. I'm understandably angry. | ||
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On April 15 2013 18:22 John Matrix wrote: Just imagine it's scum shooting you n1, that usually doesn't stop you being useful. Ok, can we at least admit that the nuke was a mistake and I'm really towny now, that would make it easier to pretend | ||
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On April 16 2013 01:58 John Matrix wrote: The bolded is bullshit by the way. It was obviously a townie lynch. Marv didn't talk us into to jack shit. I am going to bed. Night all. So why were you voting for this "obviously townie" player? Anyway, I don't think there is an anti-nuker, so instead of wasting my time writing a bigger cast post, I'll just point to Palmar's reads, which I largely agree with. Sheep him. | ||
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On April 16 2013 02:04 John Matrix wrote: I'm going to be just as dead as you once daylight comes You aren't Palmar and that's not particularly relevant as it's not like they can be sheeping me either. | ||
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