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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 15 2013 21:08 GMT
#1441
hapa I want to lynch woc. I made that very clear except vivax disagrees so maybe that is where your confusion is coming from

ksuh
Kush and Vivax
ShotgunBiceps
Profile Joined April 2013
171 Posts
April 15 2013 21:11 GMT
#1442
On April 16 2013 06:07 VIVAX420 wrote:
I remember it like this: Lynch Vivax, lynch Vivax, lynch Vivax


Well clearly you didn't read my filter then.

I was between you and Rayn in the hours leading up to the lynch. I was also the 2nd vote on Rayn, and only because DP sniped my vote-post while I was typing it.

On April 16 2013 06:08 VIVAX420 wrote:
hapa I want to lynch woc. I made that very clear except vivax disagrees so maybe that is where your confusion is coming from

ksuh


Ok, why is WoC scum? Let's start with a case. I'll admit I do see a few one-lined statements in your filter suggesting he's scum, but no analysis.
Hapahauli/jampidampi
WaveOfCheesecake
Profile Joined April 2013
109 Posts
April 15 2013 21:11 GMT
#1443
Ugh going through FT's filter again is taking way too long. I read FT as null right now.
Bullet points and then I have to fuck off and study. Make of these what you will, I'll be back tomorrow:

Voting patterns are weird as shit - chalked up to VE/marv voting independently for the most part.
Argument at start of day with Hapa was just horrible, but VE town-indicative I guess?
Distinct lack of marv/Palmar buddying despite the fact they were really eager to do so in Ego - could just be the more aggressive DP/VE factors.
No slip in argument vs DP despite it also shitting things up - more likely this means town but unsure because I don't REALLY know marv's skill level?


VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 15 2013 21:13 GMT
#1444
Bleh, Hapa did really make a very early case against Rayn -.-. Right after I said he scum, second in the row.

Well stop pushing us then, you're wasting our energy, we are town.
Kush and Vivax
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 15 2013 21:15 GMT
#1445
Can we talk about why NSB is still being allowed to fly under the radar?
Artanis & marv
ShotgunBiceps
Profile Joined April 2013
171 Posts
April 15 2013 21:16 GMT
#1446
And I do have one relatively strong reason to think WoC is town:

On April 15 2013 03:51 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
Hey guys. I'm attempting to catch up with the thread here but I'm casting in 10 minutes so I may not make it back in time for deadline if it goes 3 games.

For now, going to follow thread sentiment and vote FMB. I'm sorry I can't give much more than this atm, hopefully he flips red.
At the very least CC and I at least discussed him a little;' I know I personally thought his argument about how MA wasn't pushing a scum agenda was kinda stupid (it's somewhere back in my filter I think). If I get back with enough time before deadline I'll read into it more critically but this is it for now.

##Vote: FondleMyButtocks


It's a completely unjustified "sorry for not being active, I'll sheep thread sentiment" vote. Every single time I see a vote like this, it's from a townie. Never fail.

It's just not scum-mentality to be so blunt about your intentions. Scum will try to play nice and "mask" a lazy vote with some trimmings. However when you see an absurdly sloppy, blunt sheep vote like this so close to the deadline, it's almost certainly town.
Hapahauli/jampidampi
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 15 2013 21:16 GMT
#1447
ya I'm not making a case for you hapa when other people have already made a bunch of good cases. stop being the scumhunt police
kush
Kush and Vivax
ShotgunBiceps
Profile Joined April 2013
171 Posts
April 15 2013 21:17 GMT
#1448
On April 16 2013 06:15 FiveTouch wrote:
Can we talk about why NSB is still being allowed to fly under the radar?


It's because he's not here. He's my top lynch candidate for tomorrow, but there's no sense in talking about him if the rationale for voting him is mind-numbingly obvious (useless lurker).

I'd rather spend my time figuring out the allignments of people that are posting.
Hapahauli/jampidampi
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 15 2013 21:19 GMT
#1449
Blargh I want syllo/sandro flip before I try and do anything though because I'm automatically building association cases and I hate doing that X(
Artanis & marv
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
April 15 2013 21:20 GMT
#1450
Honestly I feel like either Palmar/DP or Me/Yamato are dying tonight. I'm not quite sure why I think that but I do. I'm going to recommend putting pressure towards Vivax/WoC. I think only one of them is scum but I'm not sure which one honestly. Please take a hard look at Prome/BH/phagga again tomorrow as the more I've read the more I almost get the feeling like we jumped from scum to scum.
ShotgunBiceps
Profile Joined April 2013
171 Posts
April 15 2013 21:20 GMT
#1451
On April 16 2013 06:13 VIVAX420 wrote:
Bleh, Hapa did really make a very early case against Rayn -.-. Right after I said he scum, second in the row.

Well stop pushing us then, you're wasting our energy, we are town.

On April 16 2013 06:16 VIVAX420 wrote:
ya I'm not making a case for you hapa when other people have already made a bunch of good cases. stop being the scumhunt police
kush


Honestly at this point I'm just tying up loose ends and making sure I'm comfortable with NSB hanging tomorrow. That involves establishing your alignment very clearly today.

In all seriousness I have a gut-town read on the both of you, but I don't have enough information out of either of you to verify it.
Hapahauli/jampidampi
ShotgunBiceps
Profile Joined April 2013
171 Posts
April 15 2013 21:22 GMT
#1452
On April 16 2013 06:20 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Honestly I feel like either Palmar/DP or Me/Yamato are dying tonight. I'm not quite sure why I think that but I do. I'm going to recommend putting pressure towards Vivax/WoC. I think only one of them is scum but I'm not sure which one honestly. Please take a hard look at Prome/BH/phagga again tomorrow as the more I've read the more I almost get the feeling like we jumped from scum to scum.


Really?

Given Rayn's voting actions and the vote-pattern as a whole, I find that really hard to believe. I find it really hard to believe that Rayn would plop his vote down on a player with no chance of getting lynched while soft-pushing the FMB lynch if FMB was scum.

BH not posting is annoying, but the D1 vote works overwhelmingly in their favor.
Hapahauli/jampidampi
ShotgunBiceps
Profile Joined April 2013
171 Posts
April 15 2013 21:29 GMT
#1453
On April 16 2013 06:19 FiveTouch wrote:
Blargh I want syllo/sandro flip before I try and do anything though because I'm automatically building association cases and I hate doing that X(


So don't build association cases. There are plenty of ways to scum-hunt before seeing Syllo flip.

WoC and Vivax are around, and I'm annoyed you're not showing more initiative in trying to figure out their alignments, especially given that you're not very sure about either of them.
Hapahauli/jampidampi
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 15 2013 21:32 GMT
#1454
I'm pretty sure Vivax is town, myself - Palmar's tell is decent and if he did that as scum that's some next-level shit. You're engaging with Cheese and I can look at his responses, and right now my read of you is in flux too so that factors in. Get annoyed all you want, but I'm scumhunting whether you see it or not.
Artanis & marv
ShotgunBiceps
Profile Joined April 2013
171 Posts
April 15 2013 21:35 GMT
#1455
[QUOTE]On April 16 2013 06:32 FiveTouch wrote:
I'm pretty sure Vivax is town, myself - Palmar's tell is decent and if he did that as scum that's some next-level shit. You're engaging with Cheese and I can look at his responses, and right now my read of you is in flux too so that factors in.

What's there to "flux" about? Read how the Rayn bandwagon went down, starting on page 51. Hell even hours before that I was talking to marv about potentially lynching Rayn.

How is it that people haven't re-read the most pivotal moment of Day 1 is beyond me.

[Quote]Get annoyed all you want, but I'm scumhunting whether you see it or not.[/QUOTE]

Then post shit =/

How am I supposed to know what you're doing if you keep it to yourself?
Hapahauli/jampidampi
ShotgunBiceps
Profile Joined April 2013
171 Posts
April 15 2013 21:36 GMT
#1456
EBWOP

On April 16 2013 06:32 FiveTouch wrote:
I'm pretty sure Vivax is town, myself - Palmar's tell is decent and if he did that as scum that's some next-level shit. You're engaging with Cheese and I can look at his responses, and right now my read of you is in flux too so that factors in.


What's there to "flux" about? Read how the Rayn bandwagon went down, starting on page 51. Hell even hours before that I was talking to marv about potentially lynching Rayn.

How is it that people haven't re-read the most pivotal moment of Day 1 is beyond me.

Get annoyed all you want, but I'm scumhunting whether you see it or not.


Then post shit =/

How am I supposed to know what you're doing if you keep it to yourself?
Hapahauli/jampidampi
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 15 2013 21:40 GMT
#1457
On April 15 2013 04:56 MockArmor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 03:51 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
Hey guys. I'm attempting to catch up with the thread here but I'm casting in 10 minutes so I may not make it back in time for deadline if it goes 3 games.

For now, going to follow thread sentiment and vote FMB. I'm sorry I can't give much more than this atm, hopefully he flips red.
At the very least CC and I at least discussed him a little;' I know I personally thought his argument about how MA wasn't pushing a scum agenda was kinda stupid (it's somewhere back in my filter I think). If I get back with enough time before deadline I'll read into it more critically but this is it for now.

##Vote: FondleMyButtocks


I mean, this guy hasn't really made any cases, pops in and says "Hi guys! I'll vote for the leader. Kthx bye!"

He says nothing of what he thinks about FMB here. He just throws down a vote and afks... He doesn't followup at all on his reads on Rayne or myself...

This guy shows no real investment in the game...

I mean FMB's definitely scummy looking, but at its heart it feels more like a lurker lynch than anything else... And lurker lynches are stupidly easy for scum to get behind without real fallout later. It just doesn't make sense to me in a game where we could hypothetically have day 2 LYLO that we're pretty much policy lurker lynching someone.


This came up at a point where the rayn wagon had not taken off. SB had mentioned rayn and was looking for comments, and aside from marv (who disagreed X() no one else seemed interested, but this one stuck out to me because he actually MENTIONS rayn in the context of Cheese not "following up on his suspicion" of rayn, but Moc himself wasn't commenting on SB's points on rayn.

Conversely it's in keeping with the sentiment of switching, which ultimately favored town (unless FMB is scum too, those are always the worst days to analyze though AMIRITE?) so I'd like everyone else' thoughts too.
Artanis & marv
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
April 15 2013 21:40 GMT
#1458
It's just a gut instinct that I can't ignore right now I don't know why. It's probably bad, but in case I die just take a second look. In short, when thread sentiment changes that drastically it's either something so obvious that scum can't hold a tenable position against it or its in scums favor.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 15 2013 21:45 GMT
#1459
On April 15 2013 04:59 SamuelLJackson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 04:54 FiveTouch wrote:
Hapa, there's almost always at least one scum on the main wagon, regardless of the main wagon's alignment.

~marv

By this theory, pehaps we should look into waveofcheese then. I'll see what I can dig up.

This also comes up after SB calls out for comments on rayn.
Artanis & marv
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 15 2013 21:46 GMT
#1460
That's a nice observation VE, but what are your own thoughts? Evn if incomplete.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
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