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ShotgunBiceps
Profile Joined April 2013
171 Posts
April 14 2013 18:42 GMT
#901
On April 15 2013 03:40 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
For the record, I would rather flip Syllo today, but even Palmar doesn't want to do that and he's the only other one that seems to think Syllo could be mafia.


I think Syllo is fine for now. Sure it's worrisome in a sense that he's going after "a lurker," however the reasoning is valid and I agree with the lynch. He's probably best left until tomorrow.
Hapahauli/jampidampi
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
April 14 2013 18:42 GMT
#902
On April 15 2013 03:41 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 03:40 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
For the record, I would rather flip Syllo today, but even Palmar doesn't want to do that and he's the only other one that seems to think Syllo could be mafia.


I think he could be mafia (VE thought so way early in the day actually), but I don't think it's a very clever play to lynch him today.

~marv

Okay, Marv.

Let's lynch Prom and pray, rofl.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 14 2013 18:43 GMT
#903
On April 15 2013 03:42 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 03:41 FiveTouch wrote:
On April 15 2013 03:40 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
For the record, I would rather flip Syllo today, but even Palmar doesn't want to do that and he's the only other one that seems to think Syllo could be mafia.


I think he could be mafia (VE thought so way early in the day actually), but I don't think it's a very clever play to lynch him today.

~marv

Okay, Marv.

Let's lynch Prom and pray, rofl.


Pretty much where I'm at my friend.

~marv
Artanis & marv
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
April 14 2013 18:43 GMT
#904
Wait we're voting for FMB? Policy on lurker Yamato?
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 14 2013 18:43 GMT
#905
On April 15 2013 03:40 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 03:38 SamuelLJackson wrote:
On April 15 2013 03:34 FiveTouch wrote:
On April 15 2013 03:31 SamuelLJackson wrote:
On April 15 2013 03:29 FiveTouch wrote:
On April 15 2013 03:27 SamuelLJackson wrote:
On April 15 2013 03:19 FiveTouch wrote:
Here's my main issue with FMB, and I get that some of you may call me silly.

Seems like the trend of the thread, as far as I'm aware, has been meandering along towards an FMB lynch for some time. If he's mafia, is he really that far gone that the other mafia haven't tried to significantly push an alternate lynch?

Seems like we're just gonna lynch FMB and that's that, no real questions asked.

syllo, what do you make of this? If I remember correctly you're usually pretty aware of these things. Palmar too.

~marv

I'm not sure if I agree with the notion that the thread has been meandering towards fmb lynch, but if prom or snb are mafia and really absent, mafia may have adapted a wait and see approach. That is, waited for the mafia to show up to defend himself.


Well, it's been pretty damn clear to me to be honest.

Who else do you think the thread has been wanting to lynch? There's been plenty of arguments and plenty of back and forths, some suspicions thrown around, but FMB has been the main dude people are universally suspicious of.

This is the kind of thing I see players like you and Palmar talk about in obsQTs. "well when a lynch goes this easily on day 1, it's rarely on mafia."

~marv

Who do you want to lynch then? I don't have time to reread, though perhaps sandro will before the deadline.


I've been umming and ahhing about lynching NSB, not because I can point to anything specifically scummy in his filter, but because he's even more of a lurker than FMB, and has received disproportionately less attention.

~marv

If drazerk/snb are mafia, why did drazerk show up, make a few nonsensical posts and disappear? He doesn't seem to give a shit about his survival, which seems about what I would expect from him as town.


You've been pushing both of them for being contentless all day, drazerk returns to be contentless, but now it's a town-tell because it's contentless? :<

~marv

That's a mischaracterization of what I said. I'm referring to his attitude, not suggesting that lack of content is towny.
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
April 14 2013 18:45 GMT
#906
I'm talking with geript and trying to figure out which of WoC/MA/RM is mafia, what do you think?

I mean, one of them is LIKELY to be mafia, no?
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 14 2013 18:45 GMT
#907
On April 15 2013 03:43 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Wait we're voting for FMB? Policy on lurker Yamato?


geript, can you provide examples from previous games where WoS talks about meta?

I'm kinda curious.

When I was looking at WoC earlier, I found him somewhat scummy (he attacked MA but then told him he wasn't scummy, had some random strong town read on Hapa) but I found the latter part of his filter better.

The meta case was completely ludicrous though, but that isn't necessarily a scumtell.

~marv
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 14 2013 18:47 GMT
#908
On April 15 2013 03:45 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
I'm talking with geript and trying to figure out which of WoC/MA/RM is mafia, what do you think?

I mean, one of them is LIKELY to be mafia, no?


I found raynmaster somewhat townie, although VE disagrees. There's a post from me a couple of hours ago where I outline what I think about MA, he could be mafia, but he's a mindfuck. WoC I'm also completely on the fence. I've spent a tonne of time on this game today with really unsatisfactory conclusions.

~marv
Artanis & marv
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
April 14 2013 18:47 GMT
#909
On April 15 2013 03:33 FiveTouch wrote:
I mean, my vote is on FMB, he looks to be a decent lynch, the only thing that makes me think he's not a decent lynch is the fact that everyone thinks he's a decent lynch. If you get what I'm saying.

~marv

I agree with this sentiment entirely. I find it odd that at various points many people have been suspicious of WoC but no one has really made a solid push towards them other than me

<--not yamato
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
April 14 2013 18:48 GMT
#910
On April 15 2013 03:47 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 03:45 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
I'm talking with geript and trying to figure out which of WoC/MA/RM is mafia, what do you think?

I mean, one of them is LIKELY to be mafia, no?


I found raynmaster somewhat townie, although VE disagrees. There's a post from me a couple of hours ago where I outline what I think about MA, he could be mafia, but he's a mindfuck. WoC I'm also completely on the fence. I've spent a tonne of time on this game today with really unsatisfactory conclusions.

~marv

Well, I guess you and I are literally at the exact same point in this game.

Fuck.
ShotgunBiceps
Profile Joined April 2013
171 Posts
April 14 2013 18:50 GMT
#911
On April 15 2013 02:54 VIVAX420 wrote:
nvm about WoC I guess lol...just read his filter doesn't seem as scummy today
kush


Kush can you explain this a bit more? You were all up in WoC yesterday and you dropped your vote without providing the details.
Hapahauli/jampidampi
WaveOfCheesecake
Profile Joined April 2013
109 Posts
April 14 2013 18:51 GMT
#912
Hey guys. I'm attempting to catch up with the thread here but I'm casting in 10 minutes so I may not make it back in time for deadline if it goes 3 games.

For now, going to follow thread sentiment and vote FMB. I'm sorry I can't give much more than this atm, hopefully he flips red.
At the very least CC and I at least discussed him a little;' I know I personally thought his argument about how MA wasn't pushing a scum agenda was kinda stupid (it's somewhere back in my filter I think). If I get back with enough time before deadline I'll read into it more critically but this is it for now.

##Vote: FondleMyButtocks
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 14 2013 18:52 GMT
#913
On April 15 2013 03:48 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 03:47 FiveTouch wrote:
On April 15 2013 03:45 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
I'm talking with geript and trying to figure out which of WoC/MA/RM is mafia, what do you think?

I mean, one of them is LIKELY to be mafia, no?


I found raynmaster somewhat townie, although VE disagrees. There's a post from me a couple of hours ago where I outline what I think about MA, he could be mafia, but he's a mindfuck. WoC I'm also completely on the fence. I've spent a tonne of time on this game today with really unsatisfactory conclusions.

~marv

Well, I guess you and I are literally at the exact same point in this game.

Fuck.


This game is way more complicated than the last one right? lol. Mostly I just want Palmar to come back and talk to me.

~marv
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 14 2013 18:53 GMT
#914
On April 15 2013 03:51 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
Hey guys. I'm attempting to catch up with the thread here but I'm casting in 10 minutes so I may not make it back in time for deadline if it goes 3 games.

For now, going to follow thread sentiment and vote FMB. I'm sorry I can't give much more than this atm, hopefully he flips red.
At the very least CC and I at least discussed him a little;' I know I personally thought his argument about how MA wasn't pushing a scum agenda was kinda stupid (it's somewhere back in my filter I think). If I get back with enough time before deadline I'll read into it more critically but this is it for now.

##Vote: FondleMyButtocks


Just saying, you could have kinda organised your time so you could read the thread more than 10 minutes before you had to cast :/

~marv
Artanis & marv
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
April 14 2013 18:54 GMT
#915
The ones that spring to mind are in The Game:
On March 18 2013 01:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ohai guise.
Geript no offense, but your meta reads are shit. I'll agree with you that something appears...off about zare this game, but glurio does make a point and zare's activity does go way down on weekends. I'm willing to keep an eye on him for now but I don't think he'd be my D1 lynch candidate.
I have to look into this Vivax/TPS thing right now because so far it seems the most compelling thing to me.
I was going to comment on Coag's bullshit at some point but I figure I have to trust the vets on his meta once again since they ended up being right about Grush last game.....sigh.

The thing is throughout the game he never trusted anyone's meta reads. He never commented on DYH's meta case on Zarepath; he never really responded to Sciberbia IIRC or my +1 of DYH's read. IIRC he didn't ever really ask about vets meta reads though. This recent case on Mocsta is the first Meta case of his that I can remember which seems exceptionally odd and out of character to me. I think Wave is capable of solid trains of thought, but in my experience that case misrepresents the facts some (could just be different perceptions) but looks like it's intentionally designed to go nowhere.
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 14 2013 18:58 GMT
#916
yeah I will pretty much lynch anyone today LOL (rayn, fmb, balrog)
d1 what can you do. Rayn is an actual scumread but he's not getting lynched so FMB and Balrog are lurkers so they can be lynched too. Balrog is more lurkery of the two, fmb is more scummy of the two.

And I changed my mind about WoC. Yesterday he seemed scummy how he couldn't do anything but shit it up with MA, but after actually reading through his filter he didn't seem as bad.

kush
Kush and Vivax
ShotgunBiceps
Profile Joined April 2013
171 Posts
April 14 2013 19:00 GMT
#917
On April 15 2013 03:58 VIVAX420 wrote:
yeah I will pretty much lynch anyone today LOL (rayn, fmb, balrog)
d1 what can you do. Rayn is an actual scumread but he's not getting lynched so FMB and Balrog are lurkers so they can be lynched too. Balrog is more lurkery of the two, fmb is more scummy of the two.


Well that's not a satisfying response and it bears an eerie resemblance to your Day 1 antics as scum in Witchcraft Mini (you generally not caring about who died).

And I changed my mind about WoC. Yesterday he seemed scummy how he couldn't do anything but shit it up with MA, but after actually reading through his filter he didn't seem as bad.

kush


Why did he not seem as bad? What specifically changed?
Hapahauli/jampidampi
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 14 2013 19:02 GMT
#918
I'd say right now, I'm expecting a decent showing from s&b in the thread shortly given his activity elsewhere.

~marv
Artanis & marv
ShotgunBiceps
Profile Joined April 2013
171 Posts
April 14 2013 19:08 GMT
#919
Marv, can I get your comments on this?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406683&currentpage=44#879
Hapahauli/jampidampi
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 14 2013 19:10 GMT
#920
On April 15 2013 04:08 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
Marv, can I get your comments on this?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406683&currentpage=44#879


There's no real reason that he should gun (geddit) for you in that situation when he could easily make some case or vote on any of the guys he mentioned, don't you think?

~marv
Artanis & marv
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