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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 11 2013 00:48 GMT
#1681
tbh i 100% trusted my check on Palmar because i thought GF/framer with LR would be EXTREMELY imba. "yo, you get a check 100% maybe on D4, and even then you can't 100% trust it".
table for two on a tv tray
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
April 11 2013 01:16 GMT
#1682
i planned on posting my shoot before the daypost but i was having difficulties copy and pasting from my phone.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 11 2013 01:36 GMT
#1683
LOL Pushed oats and Axle day one. Feel pretty good about that. GG town. Wish I had been around for the final lynch but oh well.

Don't think marv can call me bad anymore either. LOL.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 11 2013 01:36 GMT
#1684
/ego
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 11 2013 01:37 GMT
#1685
DP:
im interested to know what was your conclusion in your chat with me?
table for two on a tv tray
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 11 2013 01:48 GMT
#1686
On April 11 2013 10:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP:
im interested to know what was your conclusion in your chat with me?


That you were town. Which was kind of important for me to know as you were one of the question marks in the game before you started appearing crazy townie. Oats was screwed when all the potential scum started looking town.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 11 2013 01:48 GMT
#1687
*potential mislynches
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 11 2013 02:32 GMT
#1688
I had DP and Sciberbia as my top two Town reads about 2 days in. Then WoS, and finally marv after he revealed his notes and I realized he wasn't a lazy sack of shit.

Palmar.../facepalm
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2013 02:45 GMT
#1689
gg all! Very fun game.

Really good town play from everyone really. If anything, the rest of town carried Palmar & marv.
  • DP and iamp carried really hard all game and especially on D1. Refused to join any of the big townie wagons (WoS, scib, Ace) and got Axle lynched. Well played.
  • WoS, prplhz, rayn, and Palmar all helped get Axle lynched and put together a really nice lynch on Oats D3.
  • I feel kinda bad about mislynching Ace because he didn't have a bad D1 himself. Argued against the scib and WoS wagons, pushed Oats, and called out Tunkeg. Tunkeg probably would have been a smarter D2 lynch, because unlike Ace his filter actually looked scummy. Still, Ace's flip helped us figure out the rest of the game, so it really wasn't the worst of mislynches.
  • And marv took a bullet for me. Good shit.


I'll stand by what I said about oats having the most improved scumplay I've ever seen (in my admittedly short TL mafia career). I think I had some valid scumtells on him early D1 (>_< marv), but his filter looked so unlike his LIX filter that he had me fooled. You guys made some good arguments on him though and I'm impressed that you figured him out.

Tunkeg and Axle I think were relatively easy to catch on similar scumtells. Lack of activity, narrow-mindedness, and unconvincing reasoning for jumping on and off wagons. I'd like to credit all the town members for being active, productive, and reasonable, so that Axle and Tunkeg stood out from everyone else as scummier.

And thanks Dandel, Sylencia, and Cheesecake for a well-hosted game. The frequency of votecounts was very pleasant.
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 10:56:27
April 11 2013 04:05 GMT
#1690
+ Show Spoiler +

On April 11 2013 05:25 XXX wrote:
I don't really know what to make of it:
- Oats questioned a lot of other people than WoS at that time.
- I was not around until last moments. I was suspicious of WoS earlier though.
- prpl voted for WoS cos busy and marv/Palmar voting for him, later said he only then understood Tunkeg's case fully.
- Axle/Tunkeg were MIA.


AKA Axle asleep in a different TZ.

On April 11 2013 08:23 XXX wrote:
Because i was at LAN-party with shitty internet and about 24h/weekend drunk like a fish.


AKA XXX was MIA?



What I find funniest(funny peculiar) about these games is how the same or similar observations get re-interpreted entirely depending on the current posters current beliefs. Although the example is of rayn, I ripped the name out as its only an example.
While I know I was scum, and I did get caught, some part of the 'scumminess' of my play... wasn't.




Oh and ditto on the thanks to the hosts.
LOl still coming. (edit: got distracted by shiny things.. .the time has past.)
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
April 11 2013 05:36 GMT
#1691
On April 11 2013 11:45 sciberbia wrote:
And thanks Dandel, Sylencia, and Cheesecake for a well-hosted game. The frequency of votecounts was very pleasant.


Including my favourite do-a-votecount-with-no-new-votes move.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 11 2013 05:47 GMT
#1692
GG dudes.

Rayn carried lategame, it was really good.

I think what screwed us was
1. WoS not getting hammered.
2. Axle getting lynched
3. Marv dying.

So yeah after marv died, it was really really hard.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 11 2013 05:56 GMT
#1693
Also when Axle is playing, I ROLL SCUM. EVERY FUCKING TIME.
Thanks Axle.
<3
No gg, No skill.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 11 2013 07:03 GMT
#1694
WP town. Ty for hosting Dandi&Co.

My game turned into shit quickly. What I think was the key to winning the game for town was the quick Axle wagon and lynch, at a time were both me and Oats were away and couldn't toss in an easy vote. Both of us out of that lynch gave us small chances to win it, as everyone on the Axle lynch got huge towncred. The four of us remaining who didn't vote Axle became the prime suspect and with Marv NK'ed and Ace lynched we were two obvious scummies left.

When it comes to my own play, the plan was to stick to my meta, and play like I usually do. Palmar being serious and Marv being nice made me scratch that. I think my push on WoS gave me some towncred on day one. I fucked it up though by not posting any other reads and by the way I left the thread before Axle got lynched. The reason why I left the way I did was because I was hoping you would lynch Ace without me, and that I then could come into thread day 2, continuing a push on WoS and blaming the rest of you for creating the counterwagon. Axle getting lynched was something I never saw comming. If I had been around I would definately jumped on his wagon. After that I was just paralyzed I couldn't dig up one thing on anyone that I found scummy. Everyone on the Axlewagon seemed untouchable to me and Ace I couldn't push after not wanting to lynch him the day before.

AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
April 11 2013 07:04 GMT
#1695
On April 11 2013 14:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also when Axle is playing, I ROLL SCUM. EVERY FUCKING TIME.
Thanks Axle.
<3


Anytime, no charge.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 11 2013 07:11 GMT
#1696
Looking back on it that axle wagon really raped the scum team.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 11 2013 07:14 GMT
#1697
On April 11 2013 16:11 DarthPunk wrote:
Looking back on it that axle wagon really raped the scum team.


yup.
Both of us were sleeping/out.
That was probably the tipping point. Marv dying just screwed us over more.

Lightning rod should never be ever used again Dandel.
It basically takes out the choice in NK day 1 for scum which wouldve been somewhat vital this game.
No gg, No skill.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 11 2013 08:17 GMT
#1698
On April 11 2013 16:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 16:11 DarthPunk wrote:
Looking back on it that axle wagon really raped the scum team.


yup.
Both of us were sleeping/out.
That was probably the tipping point. Marv dying just screwed us over more.

Lightning rod should never be ever used again Dandel.
It basically takes out the choice in NK day 1 for scum which wouldve been somewhat vital this game.


Nah lightning rod was balanced. Anyone who didn't read the OP (surprisingly many players) could have killed it with their vig shot. As a power role it is only mildly useful for town IMO.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 11 2013 08:18 GMT
#1699
On April 11 2013 16:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 16:11 DarthPunk wrote:
Looking back on it that axle wagon really raped the scum team.


yup.
Both of us were sleeping/out.
That was probably the tipping point. Marv dying just screwed us over more.

Lightning rod should never be ever used again Dandel.
It basically takes out the choice in NK day 1 for scum which wouldve been somewhat vital this game.


It's kind of funny that you and marv were yelling at me/calling me stupid so much for calling you scum day one.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 11 2013 08:34 GMT
#1700
On April 11 2013 17:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 16:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 11 2013 16:11 DarthPunk wrote:
Looking back on it that axle wagon really raped the scum team.


yup.
Both of us were sleeping/out.
That was probably the tipping point. Marv dying just screwed us over more.

Lightning rod should never be ever used again Dandel.
It basically takes out the choice in NK day 1 for scum which wouldve been somewhat vital this game.


Nah lightning rod was balanced. Anyone who didn't read the OP (surprisingly many players) could have killed it with their vig shot. As a power role it is only mildly useful for town IMO.

Its a sucky town role yeah.
The problem is that scum dont get to choose their n1 kill. Thats the stupid thing about it.
Marv dying was the nail in the coffin.

Haha played marv like a FIDDLE.

It was going so well up to the WoS n-1 not getting lynched.
No gg, No skill.
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