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On April 07 2013 09:37 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:
I find the wagon on sciberbia really weird. And once again marv provides his filter as justification. outside of this WoS stuff and Oats he's actually the best lynch.
What?
On April 07 2013 05:13 Ace wrote:
there's no way sciberbia should even be in danger of lynching right now. That silliness might be where the Scum are hiding.
On April 07 2013 08:36 Ace wrote:
There is no solid reason for lynching sciberbia. Unvoting WoS makes no sense here.
that's not what that sounds like at all.
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On April 07 2013 09:37 marvellosity wrote:
It wasn't a vote, it was attacking Ace for his stance on WoS. Can you not read?
I quoted the wrong post.
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I don't know why you keep pulling quotes of context and going "see, look here!" as if that is evidence of you actually doing something. Can you explain how those 2 quotes contradict me saying you are the 3rd best option for a lynch at the moment?
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On April 07 2013 08:45 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 08:36 Ace wrote:
There is no solid reason for lynching sciberbia. Unvoting WoS makes no sense here.
Wos where did you claim? Unlike Oats, who is "scum at best, town is worst"? Super solid reason you have there, Ace. I'm with Palmar on this one. And your irrational opposition to the lynch while championing an equally irrational lynch makes me feel better about it too. You're telling us/town it makes no sense to unvote WoS, but you've never actually had your vote on him yourself. If you're so sure, why weren't you hammering his wagon? #paranoia #yolo #willlookatthegamewhilenotundertheinfluencetomorrow ##Vote: sciberbia
Like wtf is this as a vote? This is a post attacking ace which doesn't even mention sciberbia aside from in the context of the attack on marv. Then there is a fucking no reason vote plastered on the end of it. Not good enough. Marv knows/should know better than to just throw votes out with no reasoning.[/QUOTE]
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Saying there is "no way" sciberbia should be up for the lynch and "scum could be hiding in this silliness" does not equate to him being a decent lynch, which you just implied.
"silliness" != 3rd best lynch.
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On April 07 2013 09:26 marvellosity wrote:
I hold you to higher expectations than I do either of those players.
I think you're being pretty unreasonable marv. First of all, Oats is an unflipped player, and I still think he has a decent chance of being scum, but for the purposes of this post I will assume he is town, because I'm trying to see things from your point of view.
I make incorrect reads all the time. See my previous filter in The Game where I pushed townie lynches on D1 and D2. Also, you played in I Can't Believe where my top 3 reads on D3 were all town even though the rest of town all had their vote on the scum. And in hindsight those were some pretty bad reads.
So the simple fact that I may have made an incorrect read clearly doesn't mean I'm scum. Do you think my evidence towards Oats being scum was so atrocious that I wouldn't post it as town? I stand by the fact that I pointed out a few things in his filter that are a cause for concern.
Furthermore, do you really think that as scum I would push someone that I think looks townie? Because that is what you are implying.
Please answer both questions.
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On April 07 2013 09:42 marvellosity wrote:
Saying there is "no way" sciberbia should be up for the lynch and "scum could be hiding in this silliness" does not equate to him being a decent lynch, which you just implied.
"silliness" != 3rd best lynch.
what? are you serious? How in the world did I just imply sciberbia is a decent lynch? Those quotes don't even have any relation to me saying you are the 3rd best lynch option.
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Oats is (and I said it to him pre-game) a pretty popular target for mafia ire, because outwardly he does "scummy" things, like contradictions and other similar crap. If a mafia is looking to push a mislynch on to someone, Oats is the kinda guy to push it on, because he's easy to make a case on.
I would have hoped, as town, that you would be able to take a broader view of Oats' play; some loud dude, pointing fingers and generally being all over the place on Day 1 - this is literally THE classic mislynch in Newbie games. So meh.
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On April 07 2013 09:45 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 09:42 marvellosity wrote:
Saying there is "no way" sciberbia should be up for the lynch and "scum could be hiding in this silliness" does not equate to him being a decent lynch, which you just implied.
"silliness" != 3rd best lynch. what? are you serious? How in the world did I just imply sciberbia is a decent lynch? Those quotes don't even have any relation to me saying you are the 3rd best lynch option.
My bad, I thought you were talking about scib, you were talking about me.
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On April 07 2013 09:42 marvellosity wrote:
Saying there is "no way" sciberbia should be up for the lynch and "scum could be hiding in this silliness" does not equate to him being a decent lynch, which you just implied.
"silliness" != 3rd best lynch.
Marv what exactly have you said to make sciberbia scum aside from associations with someone you just unvoted?
On April 06 2013 20:30 marvellosity wrote:
It's a combination of sciberbia not mentioning WoS for a very long time, and then seemingly giving WoS an out as you mention.
On April 06 2013 19:48 marvellosity wrote:
I actually have some connection feelings between WoS and sciberbia too, but I'll wait until if/when WoS flips red to talk about that
On April 06 2013 20:02 marvellosity wrote:
I might as well say it given I alluded to it; I think a WoS red-flip heavily implicates sciberbia as red. Which is an underneath reason why I want to lynch WoS today.
Seems like you are trying to make an association case before the flip and the association is now with someone you are unwilling to lynch. So when you say to look in your filter for the reason behind your sciberbia vote with ZERO justification and all I find is the above quotes. I don't know What the fuck you are talking about.
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If he is constantly doing things that Scum do, and you alerted him to it, and he continues to do it and we believe he is a rational person playing to his win condition as Town - then he would stop doing things to get mislynched as Town.
Hence, he would be scum. Why are you ignoring his play even though you said you told him pregame what to fix?
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blah *ebwop: last sentence should read hence if he keeps doing it while knowing better, he would be scum
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On April 07 2013 09:48 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 09:42 marvellosity wrote:
Saying there is "no way" sciberbia should be up for the lynch and "scum could be hiding in this silliness" does not equate to him being a decent lynch, which you just implied.
"silliness" != 3rd best lynch. Marv what exactly have you said to make sciberbia scum aside from associations with someone you just unvoted? Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 20:30 marvellosity wrote:
It's a combination of sciberbia not mentioning WoS for a very long time, and then seemingly giving WoS an out as you mention.
Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 19:48 marvellosity wrote:
I actually have some connection feelings between WoS and sciberbia too, but I'll wait until if/when WoS flips red to talk about that Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 20:02 marvellosity wrote:
I might as well say it given I alluded to it; I think a WoS red-flip heavily implicates sciberbia as red. Which is an underneath reason why I want to lynch WoS today. Seems like you are trying to make an association case before the flip and the association is now with someone you are unwilling to lynch. So when you say to look in your filter for the reason behind your sciberbia vote with ZERO justification and all I find is the above quotes. I don't know What the fuck you are talking about.
very good analysis here.
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On April 07 2013 09:50 Ace wrote:
If he is constantly doing things that Scum do, and you alerted him to it, and he continues to do it and we believe he is a rational person playing to his win condition as Town - then he would stop doing things to get mislynched as Town.
Hence, he would be scum. Why are you ignoring his play even though you said you told him pregame what to fix?
He doesn't get mislynched as town because usually he has me to protect him in game 
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On April 07 2013 09:48 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 09:42 marvellosity wrote:
Saying there is "no way" sciberbia should be up for the lynch and "scum could be hiding in this silliness" does not equate to him being a decent lynch, which you just implied.
"silliness" != 3rd best lynch. Marv what exactly have you said to make sciberbia scum aside from associations with someone you just unvoted? Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 20:30 marvellosity wrote:
It's a combination of sciberbia not mentioning WoS for a very long time, and then seemingly giving WoS an out as you mention.
Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 19:48 marvellosity wrote:
I actually have some connection feelings between WoS and sciberbia too, but I'll wait until if/when WoS flips red to talk about that Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 20:02 marvellosity wrote:
I might as well say it given I alluded to it; I think a WoS red-flip heavily implicates sciberbia as red. Which is an underneath reason why I want to lynch WoS today. Seems like you are trying to make an association case before the flip and the association is now with someone you are unwilling to lynch. So when you say to look in your filter for the reason behind your sciberbia vote with ZERO justification and all I find is the above quotes. I don't know What the fuck you are talking about.
Here:
On April 06 2013 19:44 marvellosity wrote:
Alright. You don't realise this because I've kept my cards close to my chest so far this game, but I agree completely with everything you've said about the people I'm suspicious of. I agree about the big post on oats/iamp. He spent several paragraphs defending iamp when he only had one serious detractor at the time (DP) and I didn't find the push on Oats very reasonable either (maybe you can guess this from my reaction). Also agreed with the validation thing - talking about setup is fine, except he kinda didn't even really give an opinion, he was just fawning at you.
It's essentially just agreeing with Palmar, because I... agreed with Palmar. No need to rehash everything.
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On April 07 2013 09:53 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 09:50 Ace wrote:
If he is constantly doing things that Scum do, and you alerted him to it, and he continues to do it and we believe he is a rational person playing to his win condition as Town - then he would stop doing things to get mislynched as Town.
Hence, he would be scum. Why are you ignoring his play even though you said you told him pregame what to fix? He doesn't get mislynched as town because usually he has me to protect him in game
I would say, I never told him to fix anything.
He just told me that he found people who attacked him townie, and I told him that was stupid because people find it easy to attack him because of his playstyle.
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whatever, everyone thinks I'm town. you guys can sort the rest out. fuck this game it's too hard.
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On April 07 2013 03:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh I figure I may as well give you a little more to go on since you're all pretty dead-set on killing me.
I don't like the idea of scib hard-defending me either., I'm thinking he's taking a page from kita's book in The Game where he's trying to get me to give him a townread so that he looks real good when I flip. Null for now but defs keep an eye on him.
Personally all the business with Oats/DP/iamp/whoever just seems to me like townies going at townies. DP seems very town to me specifically.
In this game I think scum are much more likely to be in the lurky category. Prplhz and Ace/Axle?
Would you give us more to go on if we were not about to?
and why only a little if you are so sure you're about to be lynched?
On April 07 2013 03:34 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 03:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'm starting to think WoS is actually town.. Cna we lynch sci? Lol. Are you serious? I REALLY dislike your play. If I could somehow make it seem worthwhile for the town to lynch you, I would.
So this time you definitely say want to lynch him, do you find players when you "REALLY dislike your(rayns) play" have tendency to flip scum?
On April 07 2013 03:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
So where's the hammer, bros?
Something holding you back?
Ace apparently wants to keep me alive for some reason, scib thinks I'm town so it won't be them.
Iamp? Axle? Gotta be one of you two.
I live in the wrong time zone, and went to sleep so I could be awake when scrib came back.
However you have apparently not read my meta, from noir (ongoing game), I wouldn't hammer you yet
I had more questions..
+ Show Spoiler [LOL personal request] +(BTW if someone sees noir end, pls unless you need to, still dont talk about what happened after n1)
Cant see why you would, but Id like to read it without flips later.
On April 07 2013 03:41 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 07 2013 03:34 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 07 2013 03:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'm starting to think WoS is actually town.. Can we lynch sci? Lol. Are you serious? I REALLY dislike your play. If I could somehow make it seem worthwhile for the town to lynch you, I would. You have said multiple times you want to lynch me because you think i am stupid and you dislike my play. Why do you vote for prplhz now? No, you are wrong and I have shown you to be wrong; your reading comprehension is shit bad. I have only just now mentioned wanting to lynch you---I defy you to show me anywhere else in my filter I have said so. Marv, Scib doesn't look great to me but I'm not sure of him either way. It's entirely possible he's hard defending me because he is, you know, actually RIGHT about me, but due to the conspiracy-theory-esque nature of my thinking that I just can't seem to ditch, I automatically assume ulterior motives which is not enough to vote him in my opinion.
I will ask you very explicitly....
Why did you in this post...
What thought did you have, if as you now explictly claim you were not mentioning him as a lynch target?
On April 05 2013 10:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hey Axle, if you're still around, what do you make of rayn flitting about the thread thus far?
I liken him unto a chicken without a head, spraying blood and entrails wherever his dying nervous system directs him. Personally I am loathe to pay him any more mind than this but it would be nice to get a fresh opinion on the matter before partaking of other more worldly pursuits.
use reasonably graphic and evocative language to describe his play?
Was there a purpose to this post, did his play look scummy at all to you?
hence did you at that time see any reason to lynch him? If not why did you inflame the situation?
and then effectively pass it to me?
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On April 07 2013 09:58 Palmar wrote:
whatever, everyone thinks I'm town. you guys can sort the rest out. fuck this game it's too hard.
don't do this, pretty please <3
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