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Alright fuck this. We are killing VisceraEyes because I said so. ##vote: VisceraEyes
If cheesecake was scum this thread would not be dead and people would be talking. We are most likely barking up the wrong tree so fuck it. We are killing VisceraEyes because I said so and I don't feel like providing any other reasoning apart from saying that he is one of 3 people I am suspicious of.
DO IT UP
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Very constructive. Who would you have us lynch Mr wonder?
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So does anyone actually disagree about killing VE or can we go ahead and do it? We are only 4 votes off!
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I'm sorry, but you are just voting me without any actual reasoning? I have reasoning, I have just not made it clear yet. Who would you lynch if it wasn't me? I never once cited that I wasn't up to date on the thread as a reason for not contributing. It took me a while to reread the whole game and filters but then I came in and posted just now. I used the dead thread as an observational tool in my analysis. Of my three scum reads atm Cheese is among them, however typically the only time a thread is dead is when the town is not pressuring or attacking a scum player. I have never seen a more dead thread and Cheese was 2 votes away from getting lynched.
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On the other hand, I haven't really seen you put anyone forth as a lynch. The entire day one you never actually pushed a case or provided thoughts on hopeless/sylencia. Here are some gems from that where you demand others to contribute.
On April 04 2013 06:14 VisceraEyes wrote: Ghor would you also like to take a stab at swaying me to Sylencia? I'm here and feeling maleable.
On April 03 2013 04:09 VisceraEyes wrote: I won't lynch Sylencia today. I DO want to know who Sylencia wants to lynch.
On April 04 2013 02:00 VisceraEyes wrote:Yeah I did miss that.  I looked at Sylencia yesterday and decided I don't wanna lynch. Lazer even looked super scummy to me for his case. But I had missed your case and frankly now I'm not so sure where I stand on Sylencia. Here's my problem with Sylencia. Sylencia seems to be lynchbait - has been mislynched repeatedly for (I think) similar reasons you cite. Why guaranteed red flip to you? This is several posts among the majority of yours. You contribute nothing, demand stuff of others You never truly believed sylencia was red, yet for some reason you hammered the guy. You have an enormous thread presence but you never bothered to find a better lynch or push what you thought.
Tell me, why the fuck would a town VE do that? You have a 6 page filter where you never once do something with conviction.
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On April 08 2013 07:49 Ghor wrote:I don't have time to play these games actually, here. RoL asks Cheesecake opinions about both risk and VE. Surprise! VE and Cheesecake are his scumreads, so what's risk going to be? Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 07:04 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Alrighty. I finished rereading everyones filters. Cheesecake I would like your opinion on both Risk and VE if you would be so kind. Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 12:17 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Alright fuck this. We are killing VisceraEyes because I said so. ##vote: VisceraEyes
If cheesecake was scum this thread would not be dead and people would be talking. We are most likely barking up the wrong tree so fuck it. We are killing VisceraEyes because I said so and I don't feel like providing any other reasoning apart from saying that he is one of 3 people I am suspicious of.
DO IT UP Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 16:15 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I'm sorry, but you are just voting me without any actual reasoning? I have reasoning, I have just not made it clear yet. Who would you lynch if it wasn't me? I never once cited that I wasn't up to date on the thread as a reason for not contributing. It took me a while to reread the whole game and filters but then I came in and posted just now. I used the dead thread as an observational tool in my analysis. Of my three scum reads atm Cheese is among them, however typically the only time a thread is dead is when the town is not pressuring or attacking a scum player. I have never seen a more dead thread and Cheese was 2 votes away from getting lynched. Anyway rereading this shit I feel like lynching RoL as well. I just noticed he went scum->town-> scum on Cheese I never once said I thought CC was town. I specified that among my three scum reads, the inactivity during the day while cheese was on the table would seem to indicate that of my 3 scum reads he could be wrong. Even though I still find his behavior suspect.
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Risk's latest posting only served to solidify his place on my scum list. I would be open to killing him instead of VE, But I am curious to how you feel about that VE?
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To clarify I don't have him on my list of townies, He would be null/scum. There are many times in my history of mafia where I have looked at a thread's activity and thought "we are probably doing this wrong" and there are many times where I said "We are just so right the mafia is just content with the bus"
I was right on the first part every time, and everytime I assumed the second part I was wrong. Even in a game with only two scum it's easy for me to rationalize why the thread could be inactive while we are on the right track, but like I said, any rationalization of why I should ignore thread activity as an indicator has always proven wrong in the end.
So while I believed CC to be scum leading up to the thread completely dying I am less confident now the thread has died.
As for Risk.nuke, the recent posting is aggressive/bullying and not even close to productive. There was no scum slip, I inferred he was my scumread and you picked up on it. It's not too hard. I was initially planning on slow playing my scum reads assuming I could get responses but the thread was so dead I decided to attempt to drum up activity through causing chaos.
Mission pseudo-success?
Note the activity difference since we started considering VE and Risk.nuke as scum candidates compared to the entire two days preceding it? It's noticeably more active. Not to say that is a finalizing indicator that we are going the right way, but it definitely doesn't make me think we are going the wrong way in the same way that the CC lynch made me feel.
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On April 08 2013 08:54 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 08:48 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Risk's latest posting only served to solidify his place on my scum list. I would be open to killing him instead of VE, But I am curious to how you feel about that VE? Nice try but townies wouldn't care what their top scumread thinks. Unless you're trying to get more information out of him to determine his alignment, but that shouldn't be necessary since he's your top scumread and you know he's scum right. So why did you direct that question to your top scumread over other people. Because he have townie influence. Hello scumagenda. With scum like these, who needs townies. Good thing because I don't seem to have any. I'm always curious to what people think because unlike you who probably knows every players alignment I concede there is a chance my read can be wrong and a players thoughts could be worthwhile later. Alternatively it allows me to interpret what they attempt to do and decide how much wifom to go into.
Suck it.
##Unvote: VisceraEyes ##Vote: Risk.nuke
If anyone cares to read his posting it's abrasive as shit and jumps on stupid tells/slips the whole game. Risk.nuke sucks and needs to die.
Can we agree on this ghur?
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I don't recall my alignments in those games.
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Also you are talking about games that are years old and shouldn't be relied upon to draw an inference of my alignment.
I have a decently strong town read on Lazermonkey.
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HEY GUYS WHY ISN'T RISK.NUKE DEAD YET?!?
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So cheesecake what do you think about our situation?
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I'm not scum. Can you both just kill risk.nuke already?
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As I stated before. I feel cheese is scummy but I find the 2 days of utter silence with him at L-2 and being the main lynch candidate very unnerving.
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Would you argue that Ghor is more likely to be scum than you, VE, or Risk? All I've seen you do is post how you want to kill him without so much as a line of reasoning.
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SOMEONE DROP THE FUCKIN' HAMMA
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VE, you have been sheeping votes, never provided original play, demanded others contribute and convince you to kill sylencia or hopeless. In the end after saying you wouldn't kill Sylencia you are the one who hammers him.
Scummy.
However, if you choose to hammer Risk right now I will not accuse you have sheeping and will legitimately try to reevaluate not just you, but every player and the game in its entirety.
You have my solemn word!
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On April 09 2013 05:49 Ghor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 05:39 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: VE, you have been sheeping votes, never provided original play, demanded others contribute and convince you to kill sylencia or hopeless. In the end after saying you wouldn't kill Sylencia you are the one who hammers him.
Scummy.
However, if you choose to hammer Risk right now I will not accuse you have sheeping and will legitimately try to reevaluate not just you, but every player and the game in its entirety.
You have my solemn word! This is a pretty weird thing to say, you know. We don't even know if risk will flip red and it almost feels like you're offering VE a townread just cause he'd lynch him, no matter what alignment he is? I never said I would view him as town if he did it. I said that I would reevaluate things and try again.
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