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So let's save us some time and kill VisceraEyes? ##Vote: VisceraEyes | ||
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On April 02 2013 08:57 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not even spamming wtf? Not yet but I'm sure it will happen. Just taking precautions. | ||
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On April 02 2013 09:16 VisceraEyes wrote: I hate you so much. Like it could be argued that your style of play (popping in once a cycle to provide reads and fucking off the rest of the time) is IMPOSSIBLE without people like me actively engaging others to PUT the information you use IN the thread in the first place. But whatever if you want to policy lynch me for being me, go right ahead. I'm confident that others in town will disagree with your limited view of my play. The way I played exists only because of people like you who flood the thread to near-unreadability. This game shouldn't be anything like last game. If it makes you feel better, if Kenpachi was in this game I'd lynch him first without even asking a question. Your play from last game was horrible relating to that claim and you failed to deliver on a lot of counts, so I don't think assuming people think you are indispensable is the best play for you. | ||
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##Vote: Risk.nuke It's like you brought up the Kenpachi rule just to see if someone else was willing to run with it and kill me. Wanting townies to do your work for you? | ||
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There are two posts of risk.nuke that stand out for me. On April 02 2013 10:59 risk.nuke wrote: If I was scum I could just have claimed I believe strongly in the Kenpachi rule and talked about it's high accuracy and incriminated RoL for it. I would legitly look as if I were scumhunting and doing stuff at the same time as I would be pushing my mafia agenda. Instead I told the truth of what I believed in which made me look worse. Why did I do that, because I am mafia and retarded or because I am town and interested in finding scum, not just looking like I'm trying to find scum. He says what he could do as scum. But I don't believe that's how it would go. You bring up an idea and let people run with it or see where the thread takes it. If he were to do that it would also put pressure on him to keep up that level of aggression/focus on players. It's not a position most scum would be comfortable putting themselves in on Day 1. On April 02 2013 11:18 risk.nuke wrote: Why did I tell the truth? Because lying as a townie is stupid? Regardless of how great a trap you think you're setting. I don't KNOW you're town but I did have and still have a townread on you. There is no right or wrong answer about the Kenpachi Rule, some people believe strongly in it, some people believe less strongle. undeniably It has a high accuracy from statsistics but in my memory players who've been busted by it was generally newer players and doesn't neccersary mean the same thing for a player like RoL, but that wouldn't had been something I would have had to share with you now? I never heard of this rule, and here he is reinforcing the idea of it being accurate, but also mentioning that I might be immune to it since I am an older player. I don't like how he tried to simultaneously say how easy he could incriminate me if he was scum and how he is still trying to pretend this Kenpachi tell thing is real. As scum you couldn't possibly put so much pressure on someone for something so stupid. | ||
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To preface this, I noticed several things about cheesecake I found suspicious. The first was that he seemed to purposely lack reading comprehension at his convenience and the second is that he never really put pressure on anyone but was more willing to call a few people scummy. The third is that I feel is behavior and attitude purposely attempted to disrupt a good town environment. I will approach this in sections One On April 03 2013 00:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Jesus you guys are active while I'm asleep. ##Unvote I don't think we should lynch Risk today. How I got +2 to my pressure vote is beyond me. This is the first thing that tipped me off. To anyone who read the thread it's obvious. CC's pressure vote was mere coincidence and had nothing to do with mine or VE's votes on risknuke. We supplied reasoning in response to a conversation between the three of us. CC voted more or less for fun. In regards to Sylencia's vote, cool -- Good to see you're paying attention. Nothing was happening so I slapped down a vote on Risk. 20 minutes passed and nothing from him so I went to bed. Now we have shit to work with. What alarmed me the most was RoL's vote. He explains it here. This seems a far cry to think someone is scum. Oh, it looked like he was waiting for someone to sheep the Kenpachi tell... really? I'm not a fan "it looked like he was doing something potentially scummy" instead of "yeah, this is scummy" This is the next part that struck me. My words are being purposely twisted here. I said it that it appeared Risk.Nuke was looking for someone to pick up the slack. I didn't say it looked like he was doing it. There is a giant difference between the two statements. I expressed that I believed that risk was trying to make someone else push a bad lynch over a stupid tell. At no point did I express any sort of doubt, or notion of whim which CC clearly tries to interject here. I can't clearly read a thing Axle posts, at least Ghor I understand... On April 02 2013 22:32 Lazermonkey wrote: I'd actually not talk about my (potential)scum read just yet. I want a certain interaction to be happening first. Most probebly, that will occour later today. Lazer I want you to answer this question. Why do you use the parenthetical (potential)? How is somebody your potential scumread... scum have potential scumreads, town just have scumreads or town reads. Were you just waiting for somebody to slip up so you could call them out?[/QUOTE] Lastly the stab at Axle is unnecesary. I made a remark earlier about him and Ghor but since then Axle has made sense and stopped being a clown and I have developed a sense of enjoyment from Ghor's posts. The point just serves to generate hostility towards these players. Two On April 03 2013 01:14 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Hopeless... At this point in time risk had 3 votes on him. You kinda threw some shit at him and called him scummy. What was your intention with this post? On April 03 2013 01:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: It's that type of post I hate, Hopeless. I call it a Clarity. Clarity_nl did that in a game as scum, it was like he was bolstering a case without actually committing. I think that's what you were doing, prodding people to vote with no committal. And look, you can back out of it easy :D How do the intentions behind voting sylencia not match with a scumread on risk.nuke? Both of them could be scum, according to him? On April 03 2013 02:36 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Ghor please explain that shit because that would be the definition of deflecting pressure. Syl didn't talk much about scumreads (risk) but instead talked about other people. The quoted posts all illustrate where CC varies from taking a semi strong view on a player, to calling another few players suspicious. However in none of these posts did he ever go from trying to make a point and follow through with the pressure. At this point in the game CC has removed his vote and is just idling around without ever actually providing thoughts hes willing to follow through on. Three I pointed out earlier how he needlessly attacked Axle, and took a little jab at Ghur and we see it again in this post here: On April 03 2013 01:17 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Posts that have "Ghor" at the top of them. His posts are not actually that bad apart from the formatting and they are even a bit entertaining. However it is super easy to generate hostility to a player who is not speaking in any easy to interpret manner because less people are likely to actually read the posts that Ghur puts out. That part that we have to look at here is what purpose it serves. You can say that I was belligerent towards VE early on, but it served a purpose. I aimed to start discussion. Both of his attacks on Ghur/Axle do nothing to stimulate discussion and serve to just disrupt a town environment that was fairly productive. Conclusion Mr. Cheesecake does not want to contribute, purposely uses strawman arguments by misinterpreting posts, and while posting criticisms of players he never truly pushes someone, and seems to just be looking for a lynch to get behind. When you couple that behavior with pointless attacks on easy targets it makes him an excellent lynch candidate for Day 1. unvote: risk.nuke Vote: Mr. Cheesecake | ||
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On April 04 2013 02:53 Ghor wrote: I would also like to add that I'm aware of risk's lurky scum meta. But this is a mini and scum is required to be active, and risk has been forced to do so early (thus committing himself to keep up to that), so I will not put too much credit into his activity like he wants people to. I'm not too happy about his mono-scumread and null-everything-else. What happened to your broken English and speaking in third person? I found it enjoyable once I got past the initial irritation. | ||
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On April 06 2013 01:44 Lazermonkey wrote: If we no lynch, we end up in MYLO D3 instead of LYLO, not sure how you count. Oh shit, i fucked up. I had it as 8v2 not 7v2 to start with. That was a whoops. | ||
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