/obs or if you want a cohost with an East asian timezone, I'd be up for that too
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/obs or if you want a cohost with an East asian timezone, I'd be up for that too | ||
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halp, anyone! please! | ||
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/unobs /in | ||
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On April 18 2013 15:15 ShiaoPi wrote: screw my schedule :S /unobs /in BH why you dont like me ;_; | ||
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On April 20 2013 13:56 Ace wrote: *looks at player list* *shakes head in a bored way knowing he will lynch Bill Murray with ease Day 1* but but....he is EVIL??!!! | ||
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On April 21 2013 18:23 Vivax wrote: Good morning. Is it safe to assume scum didn't post yet? Is it safe to assume that we cant assume anything? So many people to kill so little time... | ||
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On April 21 2013 18:28 Vivax wrote: Well I don't care that you say no, I'll treat everyone who posted before me as confirmed town for a while. ugh, whatever floats your boat I guess | ||
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Which post are you referring to? This one: + Show Spoiler + On March 25 2013 17:59 ShiaoPi wrote: /obs or if you want a cohost with an East asian timezone, I'd be up for that too Still got shittons of catching up to do, just saw that as I scrolled over the last page | ||
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Let's first clarify my stance on BM: I was curious if anyone would just jump on it without too much reasoning. Now on BM in general I loathe his play as it is fucking terrible as town, look at the endgame of LVII for more details. On April 22 2013 10:56 Sharrant wrote: ShiaoPi, at your earliest possible convenience I would like you to tell me how you feel about Raynepelikoneet, TheRavensName, Hopeless1nder, and one person of your choosing. I'll accept as low as one sentence on the first 3, but whoever you choose I'd like you to write something of decent size about. Raynepelikoneet: Nothing to see here. TheRavensName: Just some noobing around. Hopeless1nder: Also nothing of note here. There you go, one sentence each. You also asked to have something on someone else with decent size? I CHOOSE YOU SHARRANT! In all seriousness, I do not like the direction your posting is going to: You begin by heaping suspicion on TRN with some crap arguments and drop you vote. I would not take offense if this was just used in terms of pressuring someone who's play you think is lackluster. However you do not even refer to him again as scummy as soon as other people said that they thought he was noob. TRN is absent during this time but even after he returns you seem to have conveniently forgotten his existence when you saw that nothing was sticking. I mean you do not even take into account the post TRN made after he popped back in: + Show Spoiler + On April 22 2013 10:32 TheRavensName wrote: Thank you for directing me to the podcast. I ended up listening to it while I did some work and read the thread before having to run off to do some errands. Huge help in making me understand a little bit more. Still not sure I understand how spam is town, but apparently the expliantion is spam is townie... Since basically they said if your really active no one will want to kill you and that seems like good scum motivation too. + Show Spoiler + On April 22 2013 04:56 Sharrant wrote: @TheRavensName Who would you like to lynch right now? Could you please link me to any games you have played on TL or elsewhere? Do you think Oats is more likely scum, or more likely town? Since I was asked, I have been in the last 3 NMM games in a row, your free to find them yourself (Isn't there a big database of games?) but I don't really think I can read into how I playbecause I ended up playing differently all three games. I don't know how Oats plays so I dunno if he really just spams that much at the start, so I will ignore that. I like how he points out the thing about Palmer's town read and trying to act like it was super awesome when it didn't do much so yea.... I feel like its a good point and its the only thing of any real substance in his filter. So, I would like to see something that seems more useful; I don't want to make a judgement off of basically one real point repeated a few points. I would be against lynching Rayn. In one of the Newbie games we played together we were in a similar situation and he took the opportunity to rip through me and just tunnel the entire game, so I think if he was scum this would be unlike him and I feel like I could have been a pretty easy push if he wanted to since he managed to basically do it before off less, even if there are much better people here who could see through it. (Unless he wantsto be my budy. dun dun dun.) In the same vain, I think Sharrant started out by taking a really easy way out of attacking me right out the gate and then just focuses on me and pushes around till hearing a few people saying that I was at least not scum, and then hops on Rayn without any real expliantion besides that hes going after BM for the miller soft claim and the fact that BM seems to be being useless, but that makes Ray more scummy then BM or someone else when Ray is actually being fairly active? So based off what I can figure out, I dislike Sharrant. He was convinced I was vote worthy, then hoped off before I got a chance to respond, but doesn't want to make a comment on BM til lBM shows up. Seems sketchy for me, and would probably be my vote target at the moment, but there is plenty of reading to be done and lots of time for more things to read. Now if I recall correctly your potential scumlist right now should read something like: Rayne, TRN, Sylencia ? Soooo what happened to your read on TRN? | ||
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I am calling you scummy | ||
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On April 22 2013 12:05 Sharrant wrote: That he's fairly unimportant in the grand scheme of things, and most likely town. What made you change your mind? This response is terribly lacking.... | ||
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On April 22 2013 12:13 TheRavensName wrote: Cause he asked like four people and that was about the response he got each time before he pounced ray. I want to hear him answer and also why the fuck vote somebody if you are not convinced? He did not even use to vote to pressure further just jumped to ray as soon as he could. | ||
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On April 22 2013 12:24 Sharrant wrote: He realized that Rayn could be setting him up to give him town cred when he flipped. When Rayn stepped in to defend him I was sure TRN was either lynchbait, or one of Rayn's teammates. It seems more likely at this point he is lynchbait. TRN only had a small chance of actually being mafia, but a very good chance of attracting mafia attention either by virtue of A) being a weak player which they can use as town credit or to manipulate or B) was a weak mafia player who they could protect while looking like they're just trying to help out the new player. Rayn came in with a town read on him whose strength did not match what I had read in TRN's filter, so he was the person I was looking for. I find it interesting you see nothing at all to discuss between Rayn and Hopeless. At least more content than your last answer. If TRN only had a small chance of actually being mafia, why did you vote him? Isn't that fulfilling your own conclusion that you are mafia, by virtue of going after the lynchbait? What the fuck dude? Now what do you make of all the others who also defended TRN? All team mafia?? What do you say about Ace and others who also had a townread (or at least null) on TRN? | ||
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On April 24 2013 00:02 yamato77 wrote: Let's not hammer Oats when his wagon is just a carbon copy of mine. Kthnxbye. I forgot again why not hammer either of you | ||
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##vote: Oatsmaster | ||
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Of course, bro | ||
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On April 24 2013 00:25 Clarity_nl wrote: If he's hammered we can't post anymore until nightpost, correct? yes, but we are kind of ignoring that already, so why stop now. | ||
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So I am now on the chopping block for being the hammer vote on oats? Answering to the points of vivax now: -low activity: well ya, fuck my life for being busy. This also results in my "low involvement" as I obviously cant do much without much time.... Now onto why I hammered oats instead of following up on Sharrant: Look at the vote counts at the time when I "magically" returned. It's pretty much obvious that no one else besides Oats or yamato would get lynched that day. Waiting on oats to start to do something useful would be like waiting for a train that will never come anyway. Come on look at that shitfest in the pages before the lynch and tell me with a serious face that oats was getting productive.....Felt like a waste of time to keep waiting for him, so I thought fuck it, hammer him and we will know more. If that explanation aint satisfying enough for you, can't help you. | ||
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On April 25 2013 15:59 GiygaS wrote: Anyway, he started off wonderfully by saying practically nothing about the 3 people he's asked about. Sharrant is kind of nullish town now, but I did not feel the need to tell a scumspect of mine what my reads were. | ||
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On April 25 2013 17:54 yamato77 wrote: So looking through your thought process at the time of the lynch, I don't see at all what you're trying to posit as the truth now. Zero mention of Oats before this and absolutely no indication that you thought he was scummy. You hammering him looks more like a mafia finding a reason to lynch town than a town reaching a tipping point of frustration with Oats like you would have us believe. Yeah, you die for this. Sorry. lol then enjoy your mislynch yamato. I would say my annoyance with oats is quite obvious in those quotes. | ||
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Not so sure about whom to lynch now with tube getting modkilled (lol btw!). I also have very limited time during the entire weekend, which is obviously gimping me by quite a bit as I while only be able to drop by shortly during the evening/late night before I sleep. I am currently torn between clarity and VE. Going with VE for now because I think it is a good idea to sheep Palmar. Go figure. ##vote: VE If there are no direct questions to me in the next couple of minutes I'll be off to bed until I can come back on tomorrow at about the same time as right now. | ||
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On April 27 2013 02:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote: This is your first post I have seen where you look at VE as someone to lynch. Not only do you not provide a reason why you think either is scum you opt to choose who you did based on sheeping? I am suddenly very fine with lynching you Its 2 am, I am fucking tired and tomorrow is another tightly packed day, this is the main reason for my shortness in statements and other things. It is of course my first post saying that I think VE to be scummy, since my activity has been terrible anyway. As I am unable to do anything about my current schedule, shit like this happens. Take it or leave it as it is. I think that the cases and points laid against clarity and VE throughout the day have merit to them, therefore I consider them to be scummy. As they are kind of both equally scummy to me I look on who are the voters on them and what are my reads of them and so on. The votes on VE as the current time are Palmar and kush. Palmar is a very high townread of mine and a really strong player in anyway kush is a nullish read of mine at the moment --->Strong preference to also vote for VE Votes on Clarity are: Sharrant, rayn, obviousone, Ace Sharrant is probably town rayn is more nullish but also in the townleaning camp Their current interactions of being best pals for life is kind of irritating though as it makes the earlier exchanges between them esp in D1 look fabricated. OO is just not readable to me right now. I have no clue about his alignment, I do know thought that I am fucking town, so his skill in making reads does not impress me. Ace has the credentials to sway me onto the clarity vote, but I am much less sure of my read on him than on Palmar ---->much weaker preference to vote with them on clarity. Call me Palmar fanboy if you want but ya | ||
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On April 27 2013 03:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Why don't you discuss any of the other potential scum candidates, why didnt you make a solid post about why you think VE is scum or clarity is scum? If you have time to read, and know you are going to be inactive it seems the logical move as a townie would be to post why you are doing x to avoid being called out on it. Instead you don't do that. Instead you jump in, vote, and attempt to flee instantly. I did not discuss them as incidentally my strongest reads are on VE and on Clarity right now. I have a lingering suspicion on Gigays which is weakening to stupid townie currently and I am wary of Stutters, but that is more due to the fact that he replaced in and has not done much yet. Weak argument but he did replace DrH who is usually a very vocal person. As you seem to disagree with the way I am playing, I just want to say that I am posting about why I a mdoing what, probably not to the satisfaction of most people in the thread when I glance eat the voting thread but that is just the way I do it now. Looks to you like jumping in dropping and vote and running off i guess, but truth is, it is late, I am tired, I do still want to play this game so I am allocating time I could use for sleep to this game in order to not only save towm from a potential mislynch but also to push what i believe to be scum. You can read that as you want it, but at least to me it is definetyl not fleeing, heck I am here answering to you | ||
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On April 27 2013 03:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Actually one more question: What are the points you find good against VE that has been brought up? weird assumptoion of his that palamar is scum which isdirectly contrary to mine and i have no clue where this comes from if not trying to discredit a vet. also day1 behavior and in general that feel that he is not doing as much as he seemingly usually does. would dig up more if i wouldnt be so tired, more questions? | ||
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schedule is kind of cleared now will try to get caught up with the thread until the evening | ||
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I am not scum so either CC is scum or I got framed/am miller. | ||
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I am not scum, so that leaves those options | ||
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On April 29 2013 23:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote: You sure convinced me you're not scum with those hot arguments. Does not seem like anybody is caring about it as they just work through this stupid as shit check | ||
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"Now that he is on the block/viglist, he is doing something" Fucking sad. | ||
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On April 29 2013 23:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: ShaioPi, I dun got guilty on syl and innocent on you. If tube hit you, a random ass dude on n1, i will quit this game forever. You're scum. quit the game forever then | ||
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stutters -just kill him by now Giygas -totally non-comittal, not a single shred of thread presence, always tugging along with the flow of the thread -Entire filter is fluffy as shit. No hard-stances, also keeps fucking apologizing, as if he has the need to say sorry cause he should be active. I do encourage activity but this apologetic stance makes me think that he is sorry for not doing as much as he could, feels like excuses for active lurking. one out of the 3cops I am inclined to believe it to be CC, since he is fucking wrong about me. VE actually looks kind of best out of the 3 which is confusing to me. Palmar claimed for like no fucking reason in a stupid as shit move, CC is just flat out lying or just being misled by a frame, while VE actually claimed in order to get some kind of sense into his own checks. Not liking this mess but we have what we have, consider lynching into CC please. We prolly have a 3rd party somewhere here as well. I am thinking it might be the cobbler, but that is just gutsy guesswork | ||
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On April 30 2013 00:39 Stutters695 wrote: I'm back from French so I'll be here until for the next 7 hours. I'm caught up but working on piecing together the shit that went down before the lynch. how about dying | ||
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On April 30 2013 02:23 Stutters695 wrote: Well since the thread has died down, let's try this: ShiaoPi: You have yet to adress any points against you ever, much less give a reason a single reason why we should lynch a claimed cop over you (except that he's wrong). So I'll ask you: What made you drop your suspicion on Sharrant (note: not why you voted Oats, why you never pushed Sharrant in D2)? You say Gigyas should be lynched for being non-committal, no thread presence, and just going with the flow of the thread. That's awfully similar to your 3 reads throughout the game, none of which you have voted for. Any explanations or are you just going to say more obvious stuff like "Kill stutters" to try and deflect from yourself again? LOL The points raised against me are mostly just inactivity and a fucking cop check which is just wrong. Besides hammering someone is kind of committal dont you think so? My read on sharrant changed as d1 progressed. Unfortunately I was unable to be active, so all you see is a seemingly total turnaround. Also I did adress points against me, so you are either dumb and unable of doing reading comprehension or just lying. Dunno why I answer to you anyway seeing that you are scum and should be dealt with fire. bed time now | ||
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On April 30 2013 03:13 WaveofShadow wrote: Who here played with Shiao in Boardwalk? What was he like? when did I play in Boardwalk?? lol | ||
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On April 30 2013 03:16 Stutters695 wrote: As I've said, I'm in the midst of finals and replacing in was really a mistake. Yet despite that, in my minute filter I've already said more than Shiao. Haven't really looked at giggles. quote of the day my friends, quote of the day | ||
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On April 30 2013 03:24 WaveofShadow wrote: Maybe it wasn't Boardwalk then...PTP? Maybe I'm just talking out my ass but I thought you were in a fairly recent game and I can't check right now cuz phone. you are talking out of your ass | ||
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On April 30 2013 03:18 TheRavensName wrote: Well its not wrong at least, calling it right might be generous. its wrong since my points are getting ignored by you all | ||
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On April 30 2013 03:41 Stutters695 wrote: You hammered Oats when he was sitting at L-1 for fifteen minutes. Of fucking course he didn't have time to contribute more. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt considering you hammered a townie WHO YOU NEVER HAD A SCUMREAD ON but if you're just going to dodge answering I'll await your flip. On April 25 2013 16:15 ShiaoPi wrote: ugh, fuck my busy schedule for not being able to post earlier. So I am now on the chopping block for being the hammer vote on oats? Answering to the points of vivax now: -low activity: well ya, fuck my life for being busy. This also results in my "low involvement" as I obviously cant do much without much time.... Now onto why I hammered oats instead of following up on Sharrant: Look at the vote counts at the time when I "magically" returned. It's pretty much obvious that no one else besides Oats or yamato would get lynched that day. Waiting on oats to start to do something useful would be like waiting for a train that will never come anyway. Come on look at that shitfest in the pages before the lynch and tell me with a serious face that oats was getting productive.....Felt like a waste of time to keep waiting for him, so I thought fuck it, hammer him and we will know more. If that explanation aint satisfying enough for you, can't help you. yeah you claim to have read my oh so small filter. just stop lying | ||
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There is another possibility of CC being a sane cop and VE being the liar out of the three. They frame syl n2 you get your friggin redcheck and I am still the townie from my role PM Did you guys consider that? that means kill ve instead of cc | ||
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On April 30 2013 10:44 Bill Murray wrote: what does capitulate mean? surrender, give up or be french *le gasp* also nobody thinks of sane cc and framed syl as possibillity??? | ||
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On April 30 2013 10:52 ObviousOne wrote: Syl framed means I am mafia or miller. Or VE just checked out two vanilla townies because who the fuck frames an AFK player? Or are you saying you framed Syl? What are you saying, buddy? I am guessing around since I am town and cant get around the notion that CC being insane implicates me. you being miller should be considered too. I am saying that either the described scenario happened or that CC is lying | ||
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On April 29 2013 23:34 ShiaoPi wrote: well what in the actual fuck was going on? >_> I am not scum so either CC is scum or I got framed/am miller. I consider miller to be an option, go upgrade your reading comprehension | ||
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On April 30 2013 14:53 getmoript wrote: And yes, you're right. I guess you did consider miller. Does that make an actual difference? Do you have a planned defense other than "well it could be that XYZ happened..."? Do you have any intention to actually scumhunt? lol. I did list out my reads already cpt. not-reading. noone believes me. Also I have no idea what happened regarding the check so I am interested in solving it. You are all just writing my posts off anyway. | ||
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no sanity revealed and my PM still says townie.... | ||
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kill gigyas, stutters and VE thats the scum team and kush or the cobbler are 3rd party.... | ||
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Just leaving behind my point of view, before someone stupid hammers me | ||
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you dont say? Lets kill yamato too while we are at it | ||
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On May 01 2013 00:19 Hopeless1der wrote: so you're calling three scum, two 3rd parties and a Planar Dragon in there somewhere? dont forget two traitors: BM and Sharrant no in all seriousness, I am farily sure in gigyas and stutters, coinflipping between VE and palmar and I do think one of kush/cobbler are 3rd party | ||
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oh snap! | ||
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MVP is marv I guess >_> | ||
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On May 18 2013 09:07 iamperfection wrote: GiygaS played the best for the scum team i would say Indeed, if we take out marv's actions which salvaged us the game, giygas played best on scum, hands down. | ||
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