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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
April 25 2013 16:47 GMT
#1701
On April 26 2013 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Re: lynching into Ace/BC/Palmar

Ehhhhhhhhhhh....I don't know if there's a case on BC somewhere that I'm missing, but is the fact that he's inactive right now a part of the case? And Ace is looking more town in this game than I've ever seen...but frankly that is a little disconcerting. :/

Ugh. I don't like the idea. I mean I'd lynch Palmar sure...but BC/Ace? Today? Seems silly. Scum will want them dead if they're town. In my opinion the fog should clear a little bit by tomorrow. I think tomorrow is a better time to make a lynch like that.

Your point on Ace could be disturbingly true. Anti town play that caused suspicion may have made him play more pro town today, which explains his behavior.

##Vote Ace
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 25 2013 16:48 GMT
#1702
On April 26 2013 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Re: lynching into Ace/BC/Palmar

Ehhhhhhhhhhh....I don't know if there's a case on BC somewhere that I'm missing, but is the fact that he's inactive right now a part of the case? And Ace is looking more town in this game than I've ever seen...but frankly that is a little disconcerting. :/

Ugh. I don't like the idea. I mean I'd lynch Palmar sure...but BC/Ace? Today? Seems silly. Scum will want them dead if they're town. In my opinion the fog should clear a little bit by tomorrow. I think tomorrow is a better time to make a lynch like that.

I would like to make today long enough to clear that fog before we lynch anyone.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 25 2013 17:04 GMT
#1703
OO is there a case on BC? From what I can see it's based pretty much solely on his activity, which he explained well in advance would be lacking. Like...why is he being seriously considered for lynch? Especially when there are players like ShiaoPi and Clarity (and VE -.-) running around?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 25 2013 17:12 GMT
#1704
On April 26 2013 02:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
OO is there a case on BC? From what I can see it's based pretty much solely on his activity, which he explained well in advance would be lacking. Like...why is he being seriously considered for lynch? Especially when there are players like ShiaoPi and Clarity (and VE -.-) running around?

Nothing in his filter says he's town to me. Skating by on Vet cred when no Vets are dead. He's been an anti-town presence when he's around. His scumhunting consists of calling yamato and me scum as far as I can see. He's a bully. Not interested in a positive town atmosphere. Some of this is clearly rectifiable and his activity will not clear him necessarily as much as him making sense and being productive. I want him to feel the fire under his ass and to know that vets will never be allowed to be useless when I'm around.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 17:42 GMT
#1705
On April 26 2013 01:47 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Re: lynching into Ace/BC/Palmar

Ehhhhhhhhhhh....I don't know if there's a case on BC somewhere that I'm missing, but is the fact that he's inactive right now a part of the case? And Ace is looking more town in this game than I've ever seen...but frankly that is a little disconcerting. :/

Ugh. I don't like the idea. I mean I'd lynch Palmar sure...but BC/Ace? Today? Seems silly. Scum will want them dead if they're town. In my opinion the fog should clear a little bit by tomorrow. I think tomorrow is a better time to make a lynch like that.

Your point on Ace could be disturbingly true. Anti town play that caused suspicion may have made him play more pro town today, which explains his behavior.

##Vote Ace

You are voting for Ace because he looks town? And you just said at the last page BC is red and Ace is null. Can you explain the logic?
table for two on a tv tray
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
April 25 2013 17:55 GMT
#1706
On April 26 2013 02:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 01:47 GiygaS wrote:
On April 26 2013 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Re: lynching into Ace/BC/Palmar

Ehhhhhhhhhhh....I don't know if there's a case on BC somewhere that I'm missing, but is the fact that he's inactive right now a part of the case? And Ace is looking more town in this game than I've ever seen...but frankly that is a little disconcerting. :/

Ugh. I don't like the idea. I mean I'd lynch Palmar sure...but BC/Ace? Today? Seems silly. Scum will want them dead if they're town. In my opinion the fog should clear a little bit by tomorrow. I think tomorrow is a better time to make a lynch like that.

Your point on Ace could be disturbingly true. Anti town play that caused suspicion may have made him play more pro town today, which explains his behavior.

##Vote Ace

You are voting for Ace because he looks town? And you just said at the last page BC is red and Ace is null. Can you explain the logic?

Basically, I would say Ace is scum based purely off his day 1 play in my eyes, but his day 2 sort of redeemed him in my eyes. However, it seems to me that Ace could just be looking pro town purposefully because accusations started going on him. That's my logic.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 17:58 GMT
#1707
Why not let him be pro town and judge him if he gets scummy? Why not lynch someone who has been scummy the whole game in your eyes?

The place and even more the way you dropped your vote is really fishy. Why don't you want to lynch one of your red reads?
table for two on a tv tray
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 25 2013 18:10 GMT
#1708
On April 26 2013 02:55 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 02:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 26 2013 01:47 GiygaS wrote:
On April 26 2013 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Re: lynching into Ace/BC/Palmar

Ehhhhhhhhhhh....I don't know if there's a case on BC somewhere that I'm missing, but is the fact that he's inactive right now a part of the case? And Ace is looking more town in this game than I've ever seen...but frankly that is a little disconcerting. :/

Ugh. I don't like the idea. I mean I'd lynch Palmar sure...but BC/Ace? Today? Seems silly. Scum will want them dead if they're town. In my opinion the fog should clear a little bit by tomorrow. I think tomorrow is a better time to make a lynch like that.

Your point on Ace could be disturbingly true. Anti town play that caused suspicion may have made him play more pro town today, which explains his behavior.

##Vote Ace

You are voting for Ace because he looks town? And you just said at the last page BC is red and Ace is null. Can you explain the logic?

Basically, I would say Ace is scum based purely off his day 1 play in my eyes, but his day 2 sort of redeemed him in my eyes. However, it seems to me that Ace could just be looking pro town purposefully because accusations started going on him. That's my logic.


Im going to say giygas scum. Wtf is this?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
April 25 2013 18:16 GMT
#1709
On April 26 2013 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why not let him be pro town and judge him if he gets scummy? Why not lynch someone who has been scummy the whole game in your eyes?

The place and even more the way you dropped your vote is really fishy. Why don't you want to lynch one of your red reads?

It's hard to explain from my phone. Day 1 Ace urged us to take our time, and then rushed the hammer and lynch on Oats. What I'm saying is that upon further reflection, Ace is a red read for me based on his day 1 play.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 25 2013 18:19 GMT
#1710
On April 26 2013 02:12 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 02:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
OO is there a case on BC? From what I can see it's based pretty much solely on his activity, which he explained well in advance would be lacking. Like...why is he being seriously considered for lynch? Especially when there are players like ShiaoPi and Clarity (and VE -.-) running around?

Nothing in his filter says he's town to me. Skating by on Vet cred when no Vets are dead. He's been an anti-town presence when he's around. His scumhunting consists of calling yamato and me scum as far as I can see. He's a bully. Not interested in a positive town atmosphere. Some of this is clearly rectifiable and his activity will not clear him necessarily as much as him making sense and being productive. I want him to feel the fire under his ass and to know that vets will never be allowed to be useless when I'm around.

I am yamato, and I endorse this message.
Writer@WriterYamato
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 18:28 GMT
#1711
yamato if Palmar is mafia, who got shot & docced instead in your opinion or are you seriously trying to sell the idea that mafia double stacked Vivax?
table for two on a tv tray
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 25 2013 18:30 GMT
#1712
I already talked about all those possibilities a couple pages back.

Mafia double stacking Vivax is not out of the question, in my opinion. But as was said, Palmar is perhaps a lynch better left for another day. Today we should lynch someone like the Cobbler.
Writer@WriterYamato
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 25 2013 18:37 GMT
#1713
I suggest we follow through with the shiaopi lynch. Also cobbler sounds tasty
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 25 2013 18:41 GMT
#1714
On April 26 2013 03:37 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I suggest we follow through with the shiaopi lynch. Also cobbler sounds tasty

Yeah yeah yeah in a bit. Hold your horses. Short days favor scum. You scumming it up again?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 25 2013 18:43 GMT
#1715
Implying I wanted to have the day short. I said i wanted to lynch shiao, doesnt mean we cabt drag it on.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 25 2013 18:45 GMT
#1716
On April 26 2013 03:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Implying I wanted to have the day short. I said i wanted to lynch shiao, doesnt mean we cabt drag it on.

That's how I read your post Luigi. Sorry. Here's a POW block you can smash.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 18:46 GMT
#1717
Here's how i see things:
Vivax was shot because he was on the right track and town read for like everyone. This means probably at least one of ShiaoPi / Clarity is mafia. If Vivax was double stacked he was likely even more right in his reads. But i don't think this is the case here. It's clear that whoever jailed Palmar thought he was town. Town jailers do not jail offensively and mafia jailers do not jail defensively on N1. As there is no other flip than Vivax' it's highly likely that Palmar was shot, because i can't see who else scum would have shot over him. I'm not even going to go to the fact that this would also require a doctor to target the same (other than Palmar) target.

So unless someone else claims shot / roleblocked it's very likely that Palmar got shot and is town.

I don't like ShiaoPi lynch because it was brought up by VE who i think is scum. If Vivax was right on both of ShiaoPi/Clarity then it doesn't matter, but if one of them is town it's probably ShiaoPi. As i think Palmar is town, i do not think he is wrong about VE. But if VE is not gonna get lynched today, i'm going to vote for Clarity over ShiaoPi.

Now, you want to bring up an entirely different target in BC. Understandable, as you seem to think he is mafia. But you also bring up reasons why ShiaoPi/Clarity might be town. That is something i do not understand. If you think BC is better lynch than them, fine, push his lynch. But the way to do it is not by discrediting other people's cases unless you actually think they are town, which you don't seem to.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 18:47 GMT
#1718
EBWOP: above to yamato
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 18:58 GMT
#1719
Also your latest read on Clarity is really fishy and straight up contradicts with what you said on N1.
table for two on a tv tray
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 25 2013 19:05 GMT
#1720
On April 26 2013 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here's how i see things:
Vivax was shot because he was on the right track and town read for like everyone. This means probably at least one of ShiaoPi / Clarity is mafia. If Vivax was double stacked he was likely even more right in his reads. But i don't think this is the case here. It's clear that whoever jailed Palmar thought he was town. Town jailers do not jail offensively and mafia jailers do not jail defensively on N1. As there is no other flip than Vivax' it's highly likely that Palmar was shot, because i can't see who else scum would have shot over him. I'm not even going to go to the fact that this would also require a doctor to target the same (other than Palmar) target.

So unless someone else claims shot / roleblocked it's very likely that Palmar got shot and is town.

I don't like ShiaoPi lynch because it was brought up by VE who i think is scum. If Vivax was right on both of ShiaoPi/Clarity then it doesn't matter, but if one of them is town it's probably ShiaoPi. As i think Palmar is town, i do not think he is wrong about VE. But if VE is not gonna get lynched today, i'm going to vote for Clarity over ShiaoPi.

Now, you want to bring up an entirely different target in BC. Understandable, as you seem to think he is mafia. But you also bring up reasons why ShiaoPi/Clarity might be town. That is something i do not understand. If you think BC is better lynch than them, fine, push his lynch. But the way to do it is not by discrediting other people's cases unless you actually think they are town, which you don't seem to.


Agree with everything, especially that ShiaoPi is probably town and Clarity is probably scum.
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