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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 25 2013 20:22 GMT
#1741
On April 24 2013 06:57 tube wrote:
Where's drazak?
Inactivity should be pushed.

LOL WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 25 2013 20:22 GMT
#1742
This guy wasn't even modkilled or anything and that was the only post he's made. Why is no one even mentioning this guy??
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 25 2013 20:26 GMT
#1743
Because he should be modkilled. But we cant talk about that.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 25 2013 20:33 GMT
#1744
On April 26 2013 04:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
why would town jail BC?

I started to reply to this post and realized that I'm making the assumption that there has to be a scum jailer. There doesn't does there?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 25 2013 20:34 GMT
#1745
Ok lets move into the land of posting.

First off let me ask you all a question as you have been active this day. For all the "scum" reads I have garnered why is it only a single player has even pushed an analysis of any sort on me? This is coming from someone I pushed day 1, Yamato. Since then I have see others share the sentiment of BC must be scum. 0 reasons have followed aside from activity. My activity that I stated straight out that I was not going to be around for.

Now we have someone like Yamato claiming we should kill me before I return to avoid ruining town atmosphere meanwhile he has spent the day floundering over his reads, then telling people we should lynch into the ace/palmar/BC pool. Guess what? read his filter for this current day. Find me him pushing anyone on analysis. Show me him trying to consolidate the town on any central lynch. He suggests names then changes them. The only constant is me but he never just pushes me. He is still not actively pushing me. Why? If i am his #1 scum read this game he would be trying to push my death faster and surer than anything else he has done this game day. Instead? He just mentions my name. Read his filter. End of page 5 and on. Tell me where he gives an analysis post or solid read that is based on any substance. Tell me where he tries to prove my original statement of him being scum wrong. He has done absolutely nothing but attempt to blend into the crowd while calling names? Why? Because if I get lynched then he follows me to death as hes pushing for a death on a townie. He knows damn well that he will get shot / lynched on my flip thus is not pushing for my death.

He also mentions we should lynch into the me / ace / palmar group. He never does a solid method of analysis on either just blanket says we should lynch into this group to find scum. Why isn't he attempting to help? Because he knows there are misslynches in there and does not want the fallback on his own head. Why if he also believes ace could be scum why no analysis on ace? Why is the only post on palmar being red a WIFOM argument. Why does he have a vote on VE if he wants me dead of all people?

Simple. Yamato is scum.


Thankfully Yamato's scumbuddy Mr.Cheesecake also jumped out of the wood work. Cheesecake has a 5 page filter. Between calling himself Town, he finds time to quote/post lists on reads that don't count as real town contributions. What has he done on his own? Nothing. He has found the ability to follow Yamato's lead all through the last game day where he agreed with ace on Yamato being bad. Why would you sheep the guy you think is bad?
Why would you spend time attempting to confirm a player as town based on night shots on the grounds of "i don't think scum would defensively jailkeeper" n1. Why wouldn't they? Its the one night you can't get shot. Toss it on one of your goons or powerrole you don't intend on using to create a stupid wifom argument in which town goes "he must be legit"
Says he wants to lynch ShiaoPi yet spends more time in his filter mentioning me as scum than the guy he wants to lynch.

Given the massive level of non contributions while attempting to blend in he cannot be town.

Also, for anyone accusing me for being scum based on my lack of contribution. Please filter dive your beloved Ace and Palmar and tell me what either have done to convince you of being town. Both are "active" while not actively helping the town in any positive way. Since when would Ace base his reads/lynch of the reads of another player. Go read his game history. Ace does the shit ace wants to do and pushes it when town. He is not taking this town by the reins or even actively attempting to lead the lynches. Palmar is in the same boat.

#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 25 2013 20:35 GMT
#1746
On April 26 2013 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 04:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
why would town jail BC?

I started to reply to this post and realized that I'm making the assumption that there has to be a scum jailer. There doesn't does there?


Why does town have to have a Jailer? Scum having two "rbers" isn't uncommon nor is town not having medics. Setup speculation serves no real basis on how to analyze if someone is town/scum.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 25 2013 20:36 GMT
#1747
EBWOP

Actually given that town could have jailkeepers or medics. not having jailkeepers makes sense given that town has no real need of rbers,
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 25 2013 20:42 GMT
#1748
On April 26 2013 05:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
EBWOP

Actually given that town could have jailkeepers or medics. not having jailkeepers makes sense given that town has no real need of rbers,

Given the absence of actual RBers it does NOT make sense that scum have zero too. This is the basis of my assumption.

And I'm not basing wanting to lynch Palmar off the RB claim. I think he's scum based on what he's done in the game.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 25 2013 20:42 GMT
#1749
Lol BC thinks im scum.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
April 25 2013 20:45 GMT
#1750
~~~ Vote Count ~~~

VisceraEyes (3):
Palmar, raynpelikoneet, yamato77, ObviousOne, getmoript, Bill Murray
GiygaS (1):
grush57
Palmar (1):
VisceraEyes
ShiaoPi (3):
VisceraEyes, Ace, kushm4sta, yamato77, GiygaS, Mr. Cheesecake
Clarity_nl (3): Sharrant, Ace, Bill Murray
Stutters695 (1): Tube
Ace (1): GiygaS
yamato77 (1): BloodyCobbler

Remember, this Day ends when a majority is reached. As soon as a majority is reached, please stop posting until the Night Post has been posted. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted! The voting thread can be found here: (link)

With 23 alive it takes 12 votes to lynch.

♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 25 2013 20:45 GMT
#1751
On April 26 2013 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 05:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
EBWOP

Actually given that town could have jailkeepers or medics. not having jailkeepers makes sense given that town has no real need of rbers,

Given the absence of actual RBers it does NOT make sense that scum have zero too. This is the basis of my assumption.

And I'm not basing wanting to lynch Palmar off the RB claim. I think he's scum based on what he's done in the game.


As would I. I am merely pointing it out based on the comment made about "why would town jail bc"

I would want to lynch Palmar for same reasons people would say "lynch bc for" What people don't realize Is i took a firm stance day 1 on a lynch and Palmar nor Ace did. They sheeped.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 25 2013 20:52 GMT
#1752
Something else that really bothers me is that a couple of times Palmar has talked about players who should be modkilled or how HE modkills in his games (like that's pertinent to finding scum in the LEAST anyway)

On April 22 2013 06:06 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:33 getmoript wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:29 Blazinghand wrote:
Marvellosity (and only marvellosity) has been removed from the game for repeated refusal to follow the rules for out of game communication and being a dick to me.

Please keep all discussions of modkills until the post-game.

Getmoript has not been modkilled.


Ok. I'll tell you how it is given BH is being an enormous megalomaniac.

geript and I had a QT made for ourselves, which we have been using quite happily. BH decided that we should use the QT that he made, because he's a power-mad weirdo.

I said we're fine with the QT that geript and I made thank you, and BH is now swinging his dick around, saying we're forced to use a QT that he made, despite the rules saying nothing about this, and despite the rules only having this restriction, which we followed:

On March 22 2013 20:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Hydras:
If one of the players would like to hydra with someone else, that is acceptable. Please inform me. Your hydra can have any name, but the signature should be something like "Hydra of Blazinghand and Ange777 for TL Mafia LXI" so that people know what's up.


There were no such rules for out-of-game communication other than that that BlazingHand just edited in to the rules so that he'd be justified being a douchebag.

Anyway, glhf everyone!!

~marv



tbh this should result in a modkill.

It's super unfair to the mafia that he's allowed to reveal information about the nature of the hydra and how it interacts with the host that results in everyone just assuming they're town.

It's also super unfair to town if they're somehow mafia despite all this.

On April 25 2013 05:44 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 05:35 Ace wrote:
Green font it and see if the mods make that info public.


well yeah. In my games you get modkilled for directly asking the host a question in the thread, although I guess I also run my games a bit differently. In fact, what I did, imply that I was going to ask the host a question would probably get me modkilled in my own game anyway.

So I wish I had just kept my mouth shut about it until BH clarified.

thanks BH, for explaining.


But when it comes to actual real modkillable offenses he's completely silent. Like tube's lack of posting for example. Why is Palmar ignoring tube, a player who has made literally one post in the game when Palmar has said the following?

On April 23 2013 00:48 Palmar wrote:
also being inactive in this game is unusally scummy because BH sent a pm to everyone in the game 24 hours before the game started which required a response to be in the game.

So everyone here is fully aware when the game started and reminded of it very close to the start of the game. So being afk or saying nothing is almost inexcusable.

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 25 2013 20:55 GMT
#1753
Interesting point VE. I actually agree with it as well
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 25 2013 20:58 GMT
#1754
So is there a reason Yamato is a better lynch than Ace or Palmar to you?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 25 2013 21:00 GMT
#1755
On April 26 2013 05:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
So is there a reason Yamato is a better lynch than Ace or Palmar to you?


Because I feel Yamato is 100% scum whereas the other two could be scum or third party. Of those two I would lynch Palmar first though
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 25 2013 21:01 GMT
#1756
BC what do you think of the candidates who are/were on the table on D2 besides yamato, particularly VE, ShiaoPi, Clarity?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 25 2013 21:02 GMT
#1757
On April 26 2013 06:00 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 05:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
So is there a reason Yamato is a better lynch than Ace or Palmar to you?


Because I feel Yamato is 100% scum whereas the other two could be scum or third party. Of those two I would lynch Palmar first though

Yeah you mentioned Ace as third party before too. Is that based on his air of "protownness" that he does NOT exude in other town or scum games?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 25 2013 21:04 GMT
#1758
On April 26 2013 06:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
BC what do you think of the candidates who are/were on the table on D2 besides yamato, particularly VE, ShiaoPi, Clarity?


Clarity has done nothing to change my read of him d1, VE is not mafia in my books and shiao is completely mia thus should be dealt with by vigi's in my books.

People who rarely contribute and spend more time lurking who have no real basis for a scum read should be dealt with by vigi's until they have said enough to warrant a lynch. Of that block you could argue clarity could be lynched, but he is not the scummiest player in the game thus has a higher chance of flipping town over say yamato/cheesecake/ace/palmar
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
April 25 2013 21:06 GMT
#1759
Blazinghand sent a pm, but you did not need to respond to confirm. You actually had to respond to duck out, not to stay in.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 25 2013 21:06 GMT
#1760
Also BC, can you explain to me how Palmar is sheeping? From what i remember he was the first one to call Oats scum, switched to VE, and when that lynch didn't happen went back to voting Oats. Now he is pushing VE. I wouldn't call that sheeping.
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