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On May 05 2013 02:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote: That makes no sense, there was like 0% chance you'd get hit. wtf JK It sort of does, BC and Palmar are getting in to the game and are starting to analyse. That must be scary for the mafia. | ||
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On May 05 2013 02:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote: i am currently typing with two fingers cut so badly i cant use them. if i can keep playing so can you Mmk, it may take a while though as I am out on my phone right now too. I'll make it when I get home. | ||
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 This is the post that really got me (kush pointed this out before me): On April 26 2013 00:35 yamato77 wrote: The reason I'm running through all this is that I'm not particularly happy with any of the lynches that most of town is talking about. VE of yesterday feels somewhat town. I feel like more time would only bury scum VE or give chance to solidify a town read on VE. There's absolutely no rush for his lynch to be finalized. Shaio is easy to mislynch, as evidenced by the suspicion on him in day 2 of British Empire 1, also an instant lynch where he was lurkish, and eventually replaced. The worst part of his filter is the hammer sequence, but even that could be explained by overly eager town who got caught up in the game emotionally. Clarity is always inactive, and him being fixated on Sharrant is not alignment indicative. His case is objectively something that scum like to do, but in the context of the game, I can see a town Clarity who had a late start feeling the need to get his thoughts about the game on the table, even if they weren't about the main lynch candidates. The fact that he basically has no other reads in the game is a point in his favor, but just like VE, we can afford to play a waiting game with him, seeing as we have unlimited time. At the very least, we need real discussion about the alignments of Ace/BC/Palmar before we move forward with any lynch. Ace is the most town out of the three, and BC the least, in my eyes. I'd say a long day is in order, and town need to consolidate pressure upon just a few people so that we can determine their alignments more clearly. Soft defense on the two scum that were up for lynching makes yamato look really bad. This case was rejected by Ace (who was probably pushing mafia agenda at this point to avoid being the last non-town left), but advocated by BC and praised by VE. This post is then ignored for the rest of the game. I sort of want to go through Yamato's filter now and see what's up, but at the very least I'm unvoting from Hopeless until I figure this out. | ||
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Kush is acting really strange about this read too, as he was obviously initially convinced it was mildly scummy (he was the one that initially pointed it out). Like here: On May 01 2013 10:56 kushm4sta wrote: yamato your one claim to towniness is pushing shiaopi d2. But the other wagon was clarity. So in reality you were just picking between 2 scum. scum literally had to bus. Also that quote from earlier in which you explicitly soft defend 2 known scum. here it is again: that's why i want to lynch you now On May 02 2013 05:42 kushm4sta wrote: I want to lynch yamato because he soft defended shiaopi and clarity. too much of a coincidence imo. i already posted the quote 2 times. plus there are a ton of other reasons other people have posted. yamato...lurker doesn't make you scum. Town easily can lurk for a million different reasons and I was doing it myself for the middle part of this game. Your case against hopeless..i do not find it convincing in the least. Why has he suddenly pulled a 180 saying the quote is too scummy to be actual scum? It doesn't add up. | ||
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On May 07 2013 09:07 kushm4sta wrote: dudes can we just lynch hopeless? that is the lynch im most comfortable with I think THIS. Palmar's entire case on Yamato seems to be that he made some reaching town reads on that list, and that he's flippy floppy on kush. Meanwhile, Yamato is completely set on the fact that one of BC and Palmar just HAS TO BE SCUM, IT JUST HAS TO. I'm going with Hopeless, and I'm not going to switch my vote to either Yamato or Palmar until there is an actually convincing case against them, or if one (or both) make a scumslip. ##Vote Hopeless1der | ||
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On May 08 2013 07:08 kushm4sta wrote: it was lolz to kill him though because yamato was the towniest person in this game. Please explain why you put him in L-1 then, knowing full well that he said he wanted to hammer himself. | ||
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I just don't understand why or how you kept changing your opinion on Yamato. Does anyone else find this extremely weird? | ||
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And again, remember to include WoS, Getmoript and Hopeless on your next process of elimination. | ||
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 Still reading filters, but I'm fairly confident on my read on Hopeless now, will post more soon. | ||
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WoS On April 22 2013 07:56 WaveofShadow wrote: lol what is this, a penis measuring contest? Either way I'm not impressed unless you have actual information to back it up. I'm really curious as to who you've come with especially considering most people's filters are too small to analyze; are you calling everyone with a filter worthy of analysis scummy? Personally the fact that geript has been pretty much avoiding me all day is enough for me for now. ##Vote: Getmoript This was after getmoript was "mod-confirmed" town. No mafia in their right minds would do this. - If he's mafia, I believe this would be his first time, and his quick give-my-opinion quick style doesn't lend to first-time scum well at all. - Only one on ShiaoPi during the Sylencia Lynch Hopeless1der - Worked at the beginning to shut down town reads (and worked very hard to do this, see that gigantic post) - Speaking of that gigantic post, he also posted a really terrible case on rayn at the same time - Puts oats in to "L-1" (he thought it was L-1 but it was L-2) with little reasoning (Led to ShiaoPi putting the hammer down) On April 27 2013 03:51 Hopeless1der wrote: tbh Sharrant until someone can explain how he gets away from his scumread on you, as evidenced from + Show Spoiler + On April 22 2013 13:26 Sharrant wrote: --SNIP-- At this point I am less sure about Rayn being scum than I was then, because his conversations with other players has generally been good since that time, but he's still in my top 3 to lynch. I just haven't decided if there's someone I'd rather lynch more, like say Hopeless. Any more questions? On April 23 2013 00:02 Sharrant wrote: It's a good try, Rayne, but no. Let's get this out of the way quickly because I have to leave, and there's more important things to do when I'm back. The reason I looked into you is because of your chainsaw defense of TRN. That fit exactly what I was looking for, so I went through your filter. I am not trying to lynch you on the merit of you defending TRN, get that through your head. I am going to get you lynched because you are scum. You claim that after posting several times about how miller claims should be a policy lynch, you say that it's not a policy lynch you're pushing on BM. The closest you come to make to a case is "This isn't a miller lynch policy, I'm lynching him because he claimed miller which is scummy" which is exactly the same as saying "No, this isn't a lurker lynch, I'm just lynching because his low activity is scummy". It's just attempting to disguise that you were trying to policy lynch him. The post I voted for you details exactly why I have you as a scum read. The possibility that you were a townie who made some crazy defense on TRN went out the window when I read through your filter. If you can't understand that, I can't help you. Those important things, like not lynching your primary scumread? He doesnt return to 'get things done" until Oats is lynched. Clarity's spiel about 'easy outs' doesnt look that stupid to me considering how Sharrant's read on rayn went into the abyss with no comment at all. He just dropped his read with no explanation that I can find. What gives? There's also what I view as feigned contribution. I realize he's posted way more than I have, but when you post On April 25 2013 01:29 Sharrant wrote: Is there anyone around who feels like chatting? I don't want to put up any large posts until it's just about daybreak (which I think is in about 2 and a half hours if someone could confirm). and then don't drop a wall of text in some regard, it looks like faked activity to me. This is also his first post after insisting he has shit to do upon his return, but I cant find these amazing things he's done. He's focused his attention towards clarity, but clarity barely existed at this point. Where are these "better things" sharrant promised? ##Vote: Sharrant Is there terminology for simultaneous chainsaw/soft defense? Because if there is, this is it. - More defense of scum: On April 28 2013 09:54 Hopeless1der wrote: Yeah no one has ever exaggerated in their life, right Ryan? ...any who I need to eat my words on sharrant. My main reason in voting shiao was that I didn't trust sharrant. There is no good reason for him to be scum at this point. You don't suicide your vig into a teammate who proceeds to tear you a new one. I agree with most of the proposed big shots. Ie. Sketch bags on shiao's wagon. Unless shiao is ALSO a vig, he really should be considered town. Depending on flips and such, I'd consider him semi confirmed. My personal choices for shots is sylencia and stutters. Obviously don't shoot me (herpderp), and I marginally believe wos. He calls for shots on 2 towns, and also uses a ton of wishy-washy qualifiers to pretty much everything here. - I found this post interesting: On April 28 2013 12:25 Hopeless1der wrote: K I'll be back tomorrow but if nothing pressing arises I'll wait until flips before I get into the thick of things. One thing I'll note is that I seem to be a back pocket option for a couple players and its a little disconcerting. However those players include town reads so that's probably null in the grande scheme of things. @WoS fuck Rayn's accusations and give town what you've got. If you still get shot you did what you could, right? Why does he need to mention it's concerning that people think he's scum? To quote himself, he thought he himself looked sort of scummy too: - He then said Palmar was the worse one of the two vets, proceeded to shortly after vote BC, then back to Palmar, then back to BC, then to Yamato. He was basically switching his vote based on which vet was closer to getting lynched, and not who was actually scummy in his eyes. For these reasons, I am voting Hopeless today, and I hope the town does the same. ##Vote Hopeless1der P.S. Due to my read on Hopeless, by extension I feel Palmar and BC are both town/survivor (I think I heard that theory from someone on BC). There's no way a scum would switch back and forth between a mafia and town, he would just pick the town and stay with it. | ||
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