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On May 18 2013 13:08 TheRavensName wrote:
Why did people think giggles was so townie anyways? I never got a real good explination on that when I was trying to finger him.
Did a good job acting like he was trying to stay active enough and comments were just townie enough to get by at least in tone.
Also BC my vote analysis would have led me to lynch you if I went by that alone
Geript's voting was "too good" and stuck out from the townies
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Oh also Geript if you see this as well, I got your nutter butter comment, you fuckhead. 
Don't quit playing dude; one of these days maybe we'll actually work together and do something useful on the same team.
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On May 18 2013 14:43 WaveofShadow wrote:Oh also Geript if you see this as well, I got your nutter butter comment, you fuckhead. Don't quit playing dude; one of these days maybe we'll actually work together and do something useful on the same team.
Noooo...... Not the nutter butters! FUCK YOU GERIPT!
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I page sniped 100 200 and 300
I am the king of page snipes
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On May 18 2013 09:11 Palmar wrote:
yep, giggles played okay.
Biggest compliment should go to WoS btw, sure his reads were off, but he saved town a mislynch with his super-townie play. Rayn, Vivax and Cheesecake also played very well. Artanis was good after he came in too.
Sharrant played way better than me. I completely missed Shiopi as scum after Clarity flip. marvs stunt after "death" was bullshit and he deserves a 100 game ban for that. that's ruind the game for not his team but for other people.
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On May 20 2013 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 09:11 Palmar wrote:
yep, giggles played okay.
Biggest compliment should go to WoS btw, sure his reads were off, but he saved town a mislynch with his super-townie play. Rayn, Vivax and Cheesecake also played very well. Artanis was good after he came in too. Sharrant played way better than me. I completely missed Shiopi as scum after Clarity flip. marvs stunt after "death" was bullshit and he deserves a 100 game ban for that. that's ruind the game for not his team but for other people.
Eh I disagree. He took a one game ban gracefully and hosts are probably more likely to mod kill slots over individual hydra heads in the future. I was mad at first but, eh, treat it as a learning experience. Plus it's a reality check to players: mod confirmed literally means the mod displayed the alignment on flip and even then you have to worry about janitors and flip delays in certain setups. BH did not say getmoript was town.
That said it was trickery to post after he was removed from the game. Not too worried about it in retrospect it has been resolved.
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I see that as intentionally trying to make geript better as he sure knew he is not allowed to post and should deal with his modkill with mods. I would have lynched geript every day but it wan not worth pursuing because ~90% of the people treated him as confirmed town.
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If Marv were trying to cheat, then he would've been giving me strategy throughout. I don't think Marv needed to say anything in order to mod-confirm me. Nothing Marv said wasn't implied something that wasn't what BH said. At no point was I unlynchable. No one actually posted a good case against me and that's what it takes in that type of situation.
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On May 20 2013 23:05 geript wrote:
If Marv were trying to cheat, then he would've been giving me strategy throughout. I don't think Marv needed to say anything in order to mod-confirm me. Nothing Marv said wasn't implied something that wasn't what BH said. At no point was I unlynchable. No one actually posted a good case against me and that's what it takes in that type of situation.
point being that situation shouldn't have existed in the first place.
If you were 1% harder to lynch because of this, the game is ruined and invalid.
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On May 20 2013 23:46 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 23:05 geript wrote:
If Marv were trying to cheat, then he would've been giving me strategy throughout. I don't think Marv needed to say anything in order to mod-confirm me. Nothing Marv said wasn't implied something that wasn't what BH said. At no point was I unlynchable. No one actually posted a good case against me and that's what it takes in that type of situation. point being that situation shouldn't have existed in the first place. If you were 1% harder to lynch because of this, the game is ruined and invalid.
I agree that the situation shouldn't have occurred, but the teams should be balanced as well. Neither should mod killed players have flipped until the end of day/night. Neither should anyone have gotten a free pass to post after the hammer. Neither should the teams have been so imbalanced from the start. Palmar, BC, Dr H, VE, Yamato vs 1/2 Marv is not fair especially in instant majority. Scum getting 1 "confirmed town" in exchange for losing their vet is not a great exchange. Town lost because they were lazy. Palmar, you were lazy and lost because of it. Hosting did not make you lazy; if you want to win, then play to win. You had 8 days to lynch me and never put forth effort to do so. Don't blame the hosts for your actions.
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On May 21 2013 00:16 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 23:46 Palmar wrote:On May 20 2013 23:05 geript wrote:
If Marv were trying to cheat, then he would've been giving me strategy throughout. I don't think Marv needed to say anything in order to mod-confirm me. Nothing Marv said wasn't implied something that wasn't what BH said. At no point was I unlynchable. No one actually posted a good case against me and that's what it takes in that type of situation. point being that situation shouldn't have existed in the first place. If you were 1% harder to lynch because of this, the game is ruined and invalid. Palmar, you were lazy and lost because of it. Hosting did not make you lazy; if you want to win, then play to win.
shut the fuck up
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On May 20 2013 23:46 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 23:05 geript wrote:
If Marv were trying to cheat, then he would've been giving me strategy throughout. I don't think Marv needed to say anything in order to mod-confirm me. Nothing Marv said wasn't implied something that wasn't what BH said. At no point was I unlynchable. No one actually posted a good case against me and that's what it takes in that type of situation. point being that situation shouldn't have existed in the first place. If you were 1% harder to lynch because of this, the game is ruined and invalid.
I agree with this, simply because I wanted to lynch Geript based solely on his opening post which I pointed out and voted him for. Subsequently after the thread exploded, I just conceded and said 'meh, prolly town' and didn't even think about him again for a long while.
It's a terrible situation really, and the game would have been drastically altered had the event not occurred. There is no denying this fact. If anyone really wants to aruge about skill or whatever, it's really stupid at this point. Ace had a great performance as third party and that's really all we should take from this game, along with the fact that Marv can be a douche sometimes.
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since when do you need a big case to prove someone is mafia. And even if he did post a gigantic case palmar's big problem would have been when a fellow townie or hell even a clever scum goes but what about "mod" confirm. There is nothing palmar could say to that.
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Never would you have been able to get away with your play without the stuff marv did. You have been praised by the hosts for not doing anything useful looking to justify your not-being-nightkilled, when faking usefulness and involvement properly is the stuff that makes a good scum, and you didn't have to do that cause of a cheater.
I don't understand how you can't admit that his play there made it so much easier for you, and instead you start calling others lazy and the balance insufficient to try and justify something like that.
That post influenced the game heavily, whether it was town's fault to believe it or not doesn't matter. The host allowing that to pass was like a confirmation of what marv said.
If any hydra head said after death "I have been modkilled cause I flamed the host after he didn't acknowledge my DT-check sent late in" and the host simply doesn't react saying "modkill discussion later yo", then town will tend to assume that it is true.
At least any post-death information should be dealt with by the host by saying that it's false and warn the hydra to discourage that play in the future, also forcing the player to edit out the post. Maybe it should be made a general rule. That play had to fall back onto geript, not onto town. Why did others have to waste their time for something that should be supposed to fall back onto the cheater.
Still, giggles played best, hands down. If you deserve a win it'd be cause of him. But I have no respect for your hydra's play (and especially for your attitude after this happened)
+ Show Spoiler +On May 21 2013 00:16 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 23:46 Palmar wrote:On May 20 2013 23:05 geript wrote:
If Marv were trying to cheat, then he would've been giving me strategy throughout. I don't think Marv needed to say anything in order to mod-confirm me. Nothing Marv said wasn't implied something that wasn't what BH said. At no point was I unlynchable. No one actually posted a good case against me and that's what it takes in that type of situation. point being that situation shouldn't have existed in the first place. If you were 1% harder to lynch because of this, the game is ruined and invalid. I agree that the situation shouldn't have occurred, but the teams should be balanced as well. Neither should mod killed players have flipped until the end of day/night. Neither should anyone have gotten a free pass to post after the hammer. Neither should the teams have been so imbalanced from the start. Palmar, BC, Dr H, VE, Yamato vs 1/2 Marv is not fair especially in instant majority. Scum getting 1 "confirmed town" in exchange for losing their vet is not a great exchange. Town lost because they were lazy. Palmar, you were lazy and lost because of it. Hosting did not make you lazy; if you want to win, then play to win. You had 8 days to lynch me and never put forth effort to do so. Don't blame the hosts for your actions. On May 18 2013 08:46 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 08:43 Palmar wrote:Just for the record I would be pretty heavily leaning scum on geript if it wasn't for the QT thing. The most alarming thing is not actually the random town-read on me, but his explanation of sylencia's alignment: Sylencia -- As far as I know he is a noob, so I'm guessing more likely town then When this read was made Sylencia had posted the following: On April 21 2013 17:11 Sylencia wrote:
I would kill to be something other than a VT, but hey. On April 21 2013 18:04 Sylencia wrote:On April 21 2013 17:12 yamato77 wrote:
I would kill you.
Thoughts? Seems like a bad idea to me. PS: Anyone who tries to analyse my first post in the future is dumb. On April 21 2013 18:43 Sylencia wrote:On April 21 2013 18:18 yamato77 wrote:
You seem a little too nervous about my post.
Maybe you are a good person to kill. Er, what makes me come off as nervous lol This "read" is based on absolutely nothing, and whether or not Sylencia is a noob has almost nothing to do with his read. I don't understand this read and why on earth it's part of his "analysis". Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 08:51 Palmar wrote:On April 22 2013 08:50 Vivax wrote:
Palmar, do you want to question geript's alignment?
Do you want to question Sylencia's alignment?
Cause I don't see why you are pointing this stuff out if that's not your intention. I have no information to question Sylencia's alignment I just posted the stuff about geript because I REALLY wanted to say it. That being said I don't think we should lynch him today based simply on the pseudo-confirm. Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 19:13 Palmar wrote:
getmoript - still looks awful, but cheated and didn't get modkilled so lynching him is pointless. if he's scum the game is invalid . Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 08:07 Palmar wrote:On May 07 2013 04:49 yamato77 wrote:
Geript is town because I understand how he thinks. I was just in a Hydra with him not long ago. His perspective on the game is similar to what I saw there. He's a little tunnelish, and genuinely doesn't understand my play this game. I believe it. No, geript may be the scummiest person in the thread, he just skates by on the modconfirm thing. Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 08:32 Palmar wrote:
I'm honestly kinda lost. I think I would sheep WoS but he seems to want to lynch me.
dunnoh
geript is super scummy, those reads he threw out with absolutely no reasoning behind them back on day 1 still bother me, but he does have the modconfirm thing going. so.... whatever.
Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 01:33 Palmar wrote:On May 11 2013 01:32 kushm4sta wrote:
i will look at giygas later today. i haven't really thought about him at all. check out getmoript too please. I know about the modconfirm thing, but he has some real bad stuff in his filter. Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 01:20 Palmar wrote:
Just a question on personality.
I've don't know geript that well, but I've spoken with him, and he came across as a guy who wants to improve, wants to learn and is enthusiastic about the game of mafia. Maybe I'm overestimating him, but I kind of read him as a promising new-ish guy who would attempt to win the game no matter the odds.
I just see such a completely different attitude here. Compare the attitude of myself, WoS and Artanis in these last few days with geript's attitude. It's blatantly different. He's not even trying to win the game for town, which means, to me, that it's likely he isn't town.
Did you know that geript has an 11 page filter. Page 10 starts on like may 3rd. He's posting like 1-2 times a day since the Ace lynch. He's not involved at all and seems to care very little what happens, yet he's emotional enough to viciously attack me for no good reason.
dunnoh...
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Vivax, being mad at me for posting post-death is fine, but don't pretend I claimed anything town-related in that post, please.
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Even Vivax calls him giggles now. Beautiful.
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On May 21 2013 01:26 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax, being mad at me for posting post-death is fine, but don't pretend I claimed anything town-related in that post, please.
You would hardly have mafia be to eager to set up an own hydra qt to the point of getting modkilled when they get a scum qt with their role PM.
At least this is what I thought when I made a judgement about geript
I just want geript to face that his play had few to do with his victory, and blaming the loss on Palmar or justifying his advantage with balance is a piss poor attitude, which is what motivated me to post.
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On May 21 2013 01:37 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 01:26 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax, being mad at me for posting post-death is fine, but don't pretend I claimed anything town-related in that post, please. You would hardly have mafia be to eager to set up an own hydra qt to the point of getting modkilled when they get a scum qt with their role PM. At least this is what I thought when I made a judgement about geript
And that's why it sucked and why posting post-death is bad in general, but the fact of the matter is that geript and I did have our own QT separate from the mafia QT. Impartial observers:
[4/23/2013 1:36:08 AM] Jack "iGrok" Dickerson: The ban wasn't justified at all. Idk why you did it, but he's completely in the right. That being said, post-death posting is completely against the rules and Marv has been around long enough that he definitely knows this (not that inexperience would be an excuse). However, his postgame rant had nothing to do with his alignment and in no way even insinuated at it. Other players may try to meta-game his ban to learn information, but that is their own risk.
On May 20 2013 03:55 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I read the situation without having followed the game at all. Reading the post Marv made after death, there didn't look like there was any game relevant information in it, just him complaining about QTs and the modkill, so I thought it would be alright to leave the other head alive in that case if that's what BH wanted. The players decided to draw their own conclusions about it, and the host made a post saying that the information in Marv's post was irrelevant. If players decided to continue to use that information to determine the hydra's alignment, that was their own choice.
So yeah, I'm happy to take the douche-rap for posting post-death, but there really was no town claim.
EDIT: but obviously from the way the game went down, what happened with the whole situation did help geript. That's pretty undeniable.
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