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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 17 2013 09:52 GMT
#5881
Okay, I'm going to explain right now why this last day does not confirm I am scum, and why anyone saying it does is not thinking or scum.

Remember, the presumption is that I have a strong town-read on WoS. I'm somewhat vary of this townread, but based on effort and attitude, I think WoS being scum is a very, very long shot. If he is, then my hat off to him, that is some seriously impressive scumplay. I don't intend to chase that thought.

So, I narrow the list (almost certainly correctly) down to three scum, GiygaS, BC and geript. Then I get put in a very, very strange position, two out of the three people that fill the remaining scum roles vote for the third.

Knowing I am town, and given my strong townread on WoS, I am therefore presented with a situation that is one of the following:

a) Scum have teamed up in hopes of convincing a townie to lynch the scummy townie.
b) Scum have decided to bus and play for the long game.

Is it all that surprising that in this situation I am very hesitant of what to do? Remember, I have to be absolutely certain that it's a bus, it CANNOT be positive scumhunting (two townies on one scum) because WoS and I are confirmed town in my perception of the game.

If you wanted me to push GiygaS you're not only asking me to get a correct scumread, but be able to identify a bus and be absolutely certain that it's a bus and not an endgame move. This is extremely hard to do.

The bottom line is:

It's awful logic to think this last day, because of the lynch, the voting and the result, has somehow made me more likely to be scum.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 17 2013 09:55 GMT
#5882
To explain the difference, WoS can hammer GiygaS because in his perception of the game there exists a scenario where this can be positive scumhunting, namely the scenario where he thinks I'm scum.

Thus, it's much easier for WoS to follow this lynch than me, because he can blissfully ignore what is actually happening and roll with what has been set up, a lynch on me.
Computer says mafia
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 17 2013 13:59 GMT
#5883
Palmar, who do you think the final scum is? I'm starting to see things from your POV but I'm not sure of a couple things.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 17 2013 15:59 GMT
#5884
For the record, I expect an answer from you before the NK otherwise I'm just going to assume you're scum.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
May 17 2013 16:01 GMT
#5885
On May 17 2013 18:09 Palmar wrote:
BC isn't confirmed town I'm not scum.

But hey it's ok.

Wrong and wrong. There's no way for BC to be scum. He's just trying to wriggle out of a lynch. Lets go over the past day:
I vote for Palmar and there's no double pound and GG. This 100% means that at least one of Palmar and I have to be scum. Next BC votes for Giygas; with no double pound and GG that means that at least one of BC and Giygas are scum. This confirms WoS as town. Since WoS becomes confirmed town, Giygas must be scum. The last option is between BC/Palmar; had BC/Giygas been a team then they double stack palmar for the insta GG. Hence Palmar is scum. He hasn't tried to explain why I'm scum or how I'm scum, instead he's doing shit. Maybe if he calls himself town a few more times then we should believe him. It's not hard to figure out just vote palmar.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 17 2013 16:17 GMT
#5886
Yeah I don't get how BC is scum. You on the other hand.....
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
May 17 2013 16:30 GMT
#5887
On May 18 2013 01:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah I don't get how BC is scum. You on the other hand.....

Look. You can either believe me or him. There's strong impetus for him to make the NKs he's made and almost none for me. It's not like I can out argue him; this isn't a game i play where I have a good reputation (yet). I have yet to actually convince people to follow my wagon in a big game. If he's convinced you then we lose.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 17 2013 16:35 GMT
#5888
On May 18 2013 01:30 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 01:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah I don't get how BC is scum. You on the other hand.....

Look. You can either believe me or him. There's strong impetus for him to make the NKs he's made and almost none for me. It's not like I can out argue him; this isn't a game i play where I have a good reputation (yet). I have yet to actually convince people to follow my wagon in a big game. If he's convinced you then we lose.

He hasn't come back yet to try but again I'm not so sure you have. I figured you'd be trying a bit harder than this.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
May 17 2013 16:56 GMT
#5889
I've made what, like 2-3 cases on him? What more can I say? I'm on my phone this whole weekend and at work. I don't see how it isn't obvious to you. If you think I'm scum, why wouldn't I just come out and hard bus if I'm intending to bus? If he's town, why hasn't he admitted that BC can't be scum? Hell why not even have Giygas hard bus me if we're both scum? There's no reasoning for me to play the way I did as scum. You saw how I played as scum in the game, I setup like 3-4 mislynches between Zarepath, VE, I put the nail on you before you claimed, I had meta cases saved in a document on my computer if I needed to bus. I do way more homework as scum than as town and I'm far better at blending. Why wouldn't I use Marv to preview my posts as scum as I did in the game? There's just not anything that points to me being scum except me being alive otherwise palmar AND BC would've found it and pushed it by now.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 17 2013 18:45 GMT
#5890
On May 18 2013 00:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
For the record, I expect an answer from you before the NK otherwise I'm just going to assume you're scum.


Geript I'm not sure I'll have time to make the case before night kill though.
Computer says mafia
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 17 2013 19:42 GMT
#5891
On May 18 2013 03:45 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 00:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
For the record, I expect an answer from you before the NK otherwise I'm just going to assume you're scum.


Geript I'm not sure I'll have time to make the case before night kill though.

Bullet points will do if you can't give me something detailed to work with.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 17 2013 20:06 GMT
#5892
read my filter.
Computer says mafia
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 22:05:39
May 17 2013 22:01 GMT
#5893
Day 10


WaveofShadow (Snape) has been killed!


With 3 alive, it takes 2 votes to lynch.


+ Show Spoiler +
Oops
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 17 2013 22:02 GMT
#5894
lynched? :o

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 17 2013 22:03 GMT
#5895
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
May 17 2013 22:14 GMT
#5896
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
May 17 2013 22:36 GMT
#5897
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
May 17 2013 22:44 GMT
#5898
Obvious vote
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 17 2013 22:50 GMT
#5899
And game ends who wins?
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
May 17 2013 22:59 GMT
#5900
Endgame


No one believes her ... poor Trelawney!


Palmar (Professor Trelawney) was lynched.

BloodyCobbler (Brave Wizard) was endgamed.

getmoript (Voldemort's Lieutenant), GiygaS (Death Eater), ShiaoPi (Lord Voldemort), Tube (Lucius Malfoy) and Clarity_nl (Bartemius Crouch) win the game.
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
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