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Still reading filters, but I'm fairly confident on my read on Hopeless now, will post more soon.TL Mafia LXI - Page 267
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GiygaS
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Still reading filters, but I'm fairly confident on my read on Hopeless now, will post more soon. | ||
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kushm4sta
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I would really like to lynch hopeless. I think he is our safest lynch. | ||
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GiygaS
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WoS On April 22 2013 07:56 WaveofShadow wrote: lol what is this, a penis measuring contest? Either way I'm not impressed unless you have actual information to back it up. I'm really curious as to who you've come with especially considering most people's filters are too small to analyze; are you calling everyone with a filter worthy of analysis scummy? Personally the fact that geript has been pretty much avoiding me all day is enough for me for now. ##Vote: Getmoript This was after getmoript was "mod-confirmed" town. No mafia in their right minds would do this. - If he's mafia, I believe this would be his first time, and his quick give-my-opinion quick style doesn't lend to first-time scum well at all. - Only one on ShiaoPi during the Sylencia Lynch Hopeless1der - Worked at the beginning to shut down town reads (and worked very hard to do this, see that gigantic post) - Speaking of that gigantic post, he also posted a really terrible case on rayn at the same time - Puts oats in to "L-1" (he thought it was L-1 but it was L-2) with little reasoning (Led to ShiaoPi putting the hammer down) On April 27 2013 03:51 Hopeless1der wrote: tbh Sharrant until someone can explain how he gets away from his scumread on you, as evidenced from + Show Spoiler + On April 22 2013 13:26 Sharrant wrote: --SNIP-- At this point I am less sure about Rayn being scum than I was then, because his conversations with other players has generally been good since that time, but he's still in my top 3 to lynch. I just haven't decided if there's someone I'd rather lynch more, like say Hopeless. Any more questions? On April 23 2013 00:02 Sharrant wrote: It's a good try, Rayne, but no. Let's get this out of the way quickly because I have to leave, and there's more important things to do when I'm back. The reason I looked into you is because of your chainsaw defense of TRN. That fit exactly what I was looking for, so I went through your filter. I am not trying to lynch you on the merit of you defending TRN, get that through your head. I am going to get you lynched because you are scum. You claim that after posting several times about how miller claims should be a policy lynch, you say that it's not a policy lynch you're pushing on BM. The closest you come to make to a case is "This isn't a miller lynch policy, I'm lynching him because he claimed miller which is scummy" which is exactly the same as saying "No, this isn't a lurker lynch, I'm just lynching because his low activity is scummy". It's just attempting to disguise that you were trying to policy lynch him. The post I voted for you details exactly why I have you as a scum read. The possibility that you were a townie who made some crazy defense on TRN went out the window when I read through your filter. If you can't understand that, I can't help you. Those important things, like not lynching your primary scumread? He doesnt return to 'get things done" until Oats is lynched. Clarity's spiel about 'easy outs' doesnt look that stupid to me considering how Sharrant's read on rayn went into the abyss with no comment at all. He just dropped his read with no explanation that I can find. What gives? There's also what I view as feigned contribution. I realize he's posted way more than I have, but when you post On April 25 2013 01:29 Sharrant wrote: Is there anyone around who feels like chatting? I don't want to put up any large posts until it's just about daybreak (which I think is in about 2 and a half hours if someone could confirm). and then don't drop a wall of text in some regard, it looks like faked activity to me. This is also his first post after insisting he has shit to do upon his return, but I cant find these amazing things he's done. He's focused his attention towards clarity, but clarity barely existed at this point. Where are these "better things" sharrant promised? ##Vote: Sharrant Is there terminology for simultaneous chainsaw/soft defense? Because if there is, this is it. - More defense of scum: On April 28 2013 09:54 Hopeless1der wrote: Yeah no one has ever exaggerated in their life, right Ryan? ...any who I need to eat my words on sharrant. My main reason in voting shiao was that I didn't trust sharrant. There is no good reason for him to be scum at this point. You don't suicide your vig into a teammate who proceeds to tear you a new one. I agree with most of the proposed big shots. Ie. Sketch bags on shiao's wagon. Unless shiao is ALSO a vig, he really should be considered town. Depending on flips and such, I'd consider him semi confirmed. My personal choices for shots is sylencia and stutters. Obviously don't shoot me (herpderp), and I marginally believe wos. He calls for shots on 2 towns, and also uses a ton of wishy-washy qualifiers to pretty much everything here. - I found this post interesting: On April 28 2013 12:25 Hopeless1der wrote: K I'll be back tomorrow but if nothing pressing arises I'll wait until flips before I get into the thick of things. One thing I'll note is that I seem to be a back pocket option for a couple players and its a little disconcerting. However those players include town reads so that's probably null in the grande scheme of things. @WoS fuck Rayn's accusations and give town what you've got. If you still get shot you did what you could, right? Why does he need to mention it's concerning that people think he's scum? To quote himself, he thought he himself looked sort of scummy too: - He then said Palmar was the worse one of the two vets, proceeded to shortly after vote BC, then back to Palmar, then back to BC, then to Yamato. He was basically switching his vote based on which vet was closer to getting lynched, and not who was actually scummy in his eyes. For these reasons, I am voting Hopeless today, and I hope the town does the same. ##Vote Hopeless1der P.S. Due to my read on Hopeless, by extension I feel Palmar and BC are both town/survivor (I think I heard that theory from someone on BC). There's no way a scum would switch back and forth between a mafia and town, he would just pick the town and stay with it. | ||
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Hopeless1der
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On May 06 2013 11:24 GiygaS wrote: Ugh, I'm not 100% sure of Yamato right now, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. My read right now is that say we lynch Hopeless today. If he flips scum, I've got a big town read on Yamato. If he flips town, I think Yamato should be the next lynch. Kush is acting really strange about this read too, as he was obviously initially convinced it was mildly scummy (he was the one that initially pointed it out). Like here: Why has he suddenly pulled a 180 saying the quote is too scummy to be actual scum? It doesn't add up. On May 07 2013 09:23 GiygaS wrote: THIS. Palmar's entire case on Yamato seems to be that he made some reaching town reads on that list, and that he's flippy floppy on kush. Meanwhile, Yamato is completely set on the fact that one of BC and Palmar just HAS TO BE SCUM, IT JUST HAS TO. I'm going with Hopeless, and I'm not going to switch my vote to either Yamato or Palmar until there is an actually convincing case against them, or if one (or both) make a scumslip. ##Vote Hopeless1der Giggles setting up mislynches based strictly on association (Me/Yamato). I call this scum tactics. Lynch him (after me?) | ||
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TheRavensName
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On May 09 2013 21:00 Hopeless1der wrote: Giggles setting up mislynches based strictly on association (Me/Yamato). I call this scum tactics. Lynch him (after me?) I'd rather lynch him or palmar before you. They've both been so damn scummy the entire game. | ||
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Hopeless1der
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On May 09 2013 22:36 TheRavensName wrote: Quick question, after the modkill... how many mislynches do we get? probably 8v2 right now. Lynch=7v2 NK=6v2 Lynch=5v2 NK=4v2 **MYLO** (No-Lynch?) NK=3v2 LYLO I'm getting 2 Mislynches and a potential No-Lynch at MYLO if anyone wishes to confirm. May we vote for a No-Lynch? | ||
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TheRavensName
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On May 09 2013 22:40 Hopeless1der wrote: probably 8v2 right now. Lynch=7v2 NK=6v2 Lynch=5v2 NK=4v2 **MYLO** (No-Lynch?) NK=3v2 LYLO I'm getting 2 Mislynches and a potential No-Lynch at MYLO if anyone wishes to confirm. May we vote for a No-Lynch? Voting rule 4.5 says yes. | ||
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