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On April 22 2013 01:27 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On April 22 2013 01:23 kushm4sta wrote: WE knew that's what VE meant because we are town. Scum prob didn't know what he meant. Now you just explained it to them. Why wouldn't scum know what he meant? They had to do the exact same thing, the only difference is they had a QT in their PM. They still have to look up if they are framer,rber,godfather or whatever. Literally every person has to reference the op for their role, regardless of alignment. Yes but it would be very difficult for scum to realize that TOWN had to look at the OP as well. Scum would not say "oh shit I had to look at the OP" because they would have no idea if town ALSO had to look at the OP.
Sample role PMs are clearly indicated in the OP... why wouldn't they realize this lol. Are you implying the BH would make scum reference the op but town not have to?
Not sure if retarded..... or kush....
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On April 22 2013 01:31 VisceraEyes wrote: How about we stop trying to use the role PM to discern alignments KTHX
But that's how one discerns their own alignment. We need to figure out who got the 5 death eater PMs!
But yeah, this is very dumb.
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On April 22 2013 01:32 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 01:31 VisceraEyes wrote: How about we stop trying to use the role PM to discern alignments KTHX I already did though! VE town CC town Hopeless scum
On April 22 2013 01:32 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 01:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: -snip- Not sure if retarded..... or kush.... Same thing really. This was bound to happen, but kush gets a townread from me for it.
made me l0l
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On April 22 2013 01:38 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 01:16 Hopeless1der wrote: I don't see it as particularly telling of either alignment as it was Vivax's first post. I read it and just kind of shook my head. I can follow not wanting to lynch him based on being reckless, though not with the certainty that Palmar has suggested. I'm specifically interested in the bolded. I think there's a reasonable value oddly enought to the Vivax conjecture. Anyone who posted early is more likely, as a general rule, to be town as scum are more likely consult a QT for direction and coordinate first. The problem with the heuristic is quite simply that it doesn't work for everyone equally; as a general rule, I think it's likely to be true, but without applying it to the specific people that posted early makes it more of a generally worthless statement. Sylencia -- As far as I know he is a noob, so I'm guessing more likely town then yamato--I am unaware of his scum tendencies, but don't think that posting early is indicative either wayoats--AFAIK he's a vet, in the least he's towards the spammy aggressive side which makes posting early non-alignment indicativeWoS--he always rolls scum so there's that I guess geript--Clearly an egotistical maniac and posted in The Game early as scum, so again non-alignment indicativeShaio--No clue as to experience, wanting to kill BM is more likely town Vivax--I'm not familiar enough with his meta, but the odd statement alone makes me think he's more likely town as I don't think he's crazy enough to spout that as scum So far, the list of people that I'm not interested in lynching today: Sylencia Vivax Shaio Palmar
Just bolding.
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##Vote: Getmoript
No clue as to motives, and his opening post was a mess of wishy-washy sandwiched between a bunch of "i dont knows"
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On April 22 2013 01:48 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On April 22 2013 01:23 kushm4sta wrote: WE knew that's what VE meant because we are town. Scum prob didn't know what he meant. Now you just explained it to them. Why wouldn't scum know what he meant? They had to do the exact same thing, the only difference is they had a QT in their PM. They still have to look up if they are framer,rber,godfather or whatever. Literally every person has to reference the op for their role, regardless of alignment. How would you even know this? Are you scum? Did you receive a QT in your PM? Did you receive the QT in the same pm or a different pm? You are treading on highly suspicious ground for me because as a hydra I received my hydra QT in the same PM. You aren't a hydra clearly. How would you know that?
First of all, how else would the host give a scum player a QT? In any game I've ever played in, that's how we got QT's across... via PM. lol. Also, OP sample PM's.
Voldemort, your QT: _____ Lucius Malfoy, your QT: _____
Now, who would you like to lynch today. Saying a lurker is completely fine at this point.
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Thank you Hopeless. Fuck.
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On April 22 2013 01:55 getmoript wrote: I don't see why the host couldn't put the role and the QT in different PMs;; however, I guess rereading the OP does make me feel a more stupid. As for who to lynch, I actually don't like lurker lynches much as they're a crapshoot. I'd like to lynch yamato.
Well, you just said his posts were non-alignment indicative. What has changed your opinion so quickly?
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On April 22 2013 01:57 Palmar wrote: Geript rerrible or scum?
I believe it's possible to possess both of these characteristics simultaneously.
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On April 22 2013 02:02 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 01:56 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On April 22 2013 01:55 getmoript wrote: I don't see why the host couldn't put the role and the QT in different PMs;; however, I guess rereading the OP does make me feel a more stupid. As for who to lynch, I actually don't like lurker lynches much as they're a crapshoot. I'd like to lynch yamato. Well, you just said his posts were non-alignment indicative. What has changed your opinion so quickly? No, I said that the fact that he posted early is non-alignment indicative as I expect most vets to be confident as scum. The reason why I would be interested in yamato is the exact same reason I was interested in lynching VE last game: what he's done with his activity. Four posts none of which are productive or spurning conversation. All four come across as hostile without determined aggression to pressure a player to learn their alignment. Just random smuck.
Then what was that post of yours attempting to achieve? The conclusions you reached were almost all null with a few townie leans here and there. You chose to address people based purely on the time they posted rather than their content. Apparently you did this to justify Vivax's reads, but from what I've seen you could not justify his stance.
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On April 21 2013 17:27 getmoript wrote:##vote yamato77You're being rather hostile without actually being hostile. Why not just tunnel him so you can get a good read?
Admittedly, that's not in the voting thread. Nor is your vote VE.
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On April 22 2013 02:20 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 02:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On April 22 2013 02:02 getmoript wrote:On April 22 2013 01:56 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On April 22 2013 01:55 getmoript wrote: I don't see why the host couldn't put the role and the QT in different PMs;; however, I guess rereading the OP does make me feel a more stupid. As for who to lynch, I actually don't like lurker lynches much as they're a crapshoot. I'd like to lynch yamato. Well, you just said his posts were non-alignment indicative. What has changed your opinion so quickly? No, I said that the fact that he posted early is non-alignment indicative as I expect most vets to be confident as scum. The reason why I would be interested in yamato is the exact same reason I was interested in lynching VE last game: what he's done with his activity. Four posts none of which are productive or spurning conversation. All four come across as hostile without determined aggression to pressure a player to learn their alignment. Just random smuck. Then what was that post of yours attempting to achieve? The conclusions you reached were almost all null with a few townie leans here and there. You chose to address people based purely on the time they posted rather than their content. Apparently you did this to justify Vivax's reads, but from what I've seen you could not justify his stance. Vivax's heuristic is that the people who posted early are more likely town. So I went through the people that posted at that point and decided which of those was more likely to be town based on that heuristic. I was attempting to make my thought process clear there as to who I thought was more likely to be town from posting early. I think as a general rule the heuristic works based on people who post early aren't posting elsewhere and are invested in posting early which makes it more likely that they're town. The problem as I said before is that it doesn't work in every case. I don't think in specific the heuristic works on vets as well as it does on newer players. I really don't understand the crux of what you're trying to get.
THIS IS THE HEURISTIC LINE, THERE WILL BE NO MENTION OF THE WORD BELOW IT _____________________________________________________________________________________________________
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So marv is your personal coach basically? If thats how I understand it.
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##Unvote
Geript scummy yo, but modconfirm wins. Reading things.
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Ugh, all I've got are feel reads. I wouldn't mind lynching me a Hopeless or Giygas (idc how you spell it) today. No reasoning given, just the feels. Hard evidence is difficult to come by unless I'm purposely trying to lynch townies as mafia t.t /complain.
I feel like sharrant is town, for the record. Ray is probably town. Yamato I'm disappointed hasn't been shouting at people so I could easily discern his alignment, but unfortunately he has just been threatening to kill people. Icantbelievehesnullbro.
Shiaopi i think would be a decent target as well.
Could someone just yell at me in all caps so I feel like I'm being pressured? Like seriously it's how I get my best reads -- on those who pressure me.
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Fuck it. YAMATO TUNNEL ME BRO GO ALL OUT, GIVE ME YOUR DELICIOUS TUNNEL SAUCE.
Why am I suspicious :o
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On April 22 2013 13:03 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 12:59 kushm4sta wrote: SHARRANT and RAYNE plz stfu talking to each other / about each other. i think i speak for everyone when I say this...tldr for realz SHUTTING DOWN CONVERSATION! SCUMMY Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 12:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Ugh, all I've got are feel reads. I wouldn't mind lynching me a Hopeless or Giygas (idc how you spell it) today. No reasoning given, just the feels. Hard evidence is difficult to come by unless I'm purposely trying to lynch townies as mafia t.t /complain.
I feel like sharrant is town, for the record. Ray is probably town. Yamato I'm disappointed hasn't been shouting at people so I could easily discern his alignment, but unfortunately he has just been threatening to kill people. Icantbelievehesnullbro.
Shiaopi i think would be a decent target as well.
Could someone just yell at me in all caps so I feel like I'm being pressured? Like seriously it's how I get my best reads -- on those who pressure me.
CC YOURE SO PROTOWN THIS GAME YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY MAFIA POST A READ NOW OR I LYNCH YOU NPNP Sorry I'm procrastinating studying and bored.
Unfortunately that doesn't help me to figure out your alignment. I hydra'd with you and I have no fucking clue what you are besides stupid right now. No offense to your intellectual prowess, as you are studying, but from a gameplay perspective it is what I observe.
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On April 22 2013 13:06 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 12:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Ugh, all I've got are feel reads. I wouldn't mind lynching me a Hopeless or Giygas (idc how you spell it) today. No reasoning given, just the feels. Hard evidence is difficult to come by unless I'm purposely trying to lynch townies as mafia t.t /complain.
I feel like sharrant is town, for the record. Ray is probably town. Yamato I'm disappointed hasn't been shouting at people so I could easily discern his alignment, but unfortunately he has just been threatening to kill people. Icantbelievehesnullbro.
Shiaopi i think would be a decent target as well.
Could someone just yell at me in all caps so I feel like I'm being pressured? Like seriously it's how I get my best reads -- on those who pressure me.
The last time you made a post like this, you were mafia. Mafia CC, folks. Mafia.
And the time before that I was town.
Town CC, folks. Town.
Are for the record, I caught you as mafia when you tunneled me. WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF
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On April 22 2013 13:09 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 13:07 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On April 22 2013 13:06 yamato77 wrote:On April 22 2013 12:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Ugh, all I've got are feel reads. I wouldn't mind lynching me a Hopeless or Giygas (idc how you spell it) today. No reasoning given, just the feels. Hard evidence is difficult to come by unless I'm purposely trying to lynch townies as mafia t.t /complain.
I feel like sharrant is town, for the record. Ray is probably town. Yamato I'm disappointed hasn't been shouting at people so I could easily discern his alignment, but unfortunately he has just been threatening to kill people. Icantbelievehesnullbro.
Shiaopi i think would be a decent target as well.
Could someone just yell at me in all caps so I feel like I'm being pressured? Like seriously it's how I get my best reads -- on those who pressure me.
The last time you made a post like this, you were mafia. Mafia CC, folks. Mafia. And the time before that I was town. Town CC, folks. Town. Are for the record, I caught you as mafia when you tunneled me. WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF Even if I was mafia, I would not be afraid of you.
If I'm mafia you won't have any trouble discussing with me / the thread why you find me suspect. If you are innocent it will shine through and I won't have to lynch you :D.
You can give me all the petty insults you want, it doesn't help me discern your alignment.
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Like, I knew you were town in hydra II and even called you correctly on duke nukem in the QT. It's bothering me that I can't read you yet.
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