(1) Saying "LOL"; or
(2) Saying "No, you're a retard"; or
(3) Tunneling relentlessly
Make the game un fun.
Pretty much all of us left in the game are guilty of any combination of those 3.
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Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
April 15 2013 03:12 GMT
#3649
(1) Saying "LOL"; or (2) Saying "No, you're a retard"; or (3) Tunneling relentlessly Make the game un fun. Pretty much all of us left in the game are guilty of any combination of those 3. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
April 15 2013 03:15 GMT
#3650
jsut lynch that fucker next cycle. game over. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
April 15 2013 03:19 GMT
#3653
On April 15 2013 12:17 Keirathi wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2013 12:12 Mocsta wrote: I think anyone who dismisses cases by: (1) Saying "LOL"; or (2) Saying "No, you're a retard"; or (3) Tunneling relentlessly Make the game un fun. Pretty much all of us left in the game are guilty of any combination of those 3. Aw, I was going to say I haven't called anyone a retard or an idiot this entire game. But I did call BM an idiot when he shot Caller But seriously.. i jsut hate it when people do this. Worse thing is. it used to be a scum way of subverting pressure; but now its often lazy town.. which is unfortunate. it truly goes towards creating a negative atmosphere. I try my best to provide a retort to cases, regardless of how stupid they are. But yes, I am not immune from calling people stupid etc. Need to work on it. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
April 15 2013 03:19 GMT
#3654
On April 15 2013 12:17 Restraining Order wrote: I'm inclined to agree. n if vivax does not equal gg. then lynch yamato. same reason.. not here.. lazy fuck, obviously doesnt give a shit about the game. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
April 15 2013 03:22 GMT
#3656
On April 15 2013 12:21 geript wrote: Honestly, my largest frustration D2 was that you guys would in the least meet me halfway and say, "yes you are 99% town, but would you find a second scum and become 100% town?" Your problem is trying to force confirmed town down our throats its bitter to swallow, and the more you harped on about it, the more you become ignored for your contributions. its just how life works in general. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
April 15 2013 03:32 GMT
#3660
cos game didnt finish | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
April 15 2013 03:34 GMT
#3661
if you live the night double lynch yam/vivax and game is over, hopefully | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
April 15 2013 03:41 GMT
#3663
thats why the game isnt enjoyable. hes scum btw look how he comes in to just shit on everyone.. but wasnt here when we ened opinion. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
April 15 2013 04:03 GMT
#3671
point of reclusive traitor is you arent in scum qt. unless they identify you. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
April 15 2013 04:09 GMT
#3674
On April 15 2013 13:02 Vivax wrote: This is weak,Other incriminating stuff: Yamato initially wanted to lynch these guys: + Show Spoiler + On April 07 2013 15:13 yamato77 wrote: Going to bed. When I wake up tomorrow, I'm taking a look at this list of people: VE PALMAR SINANI MEAPAK AUSTIN One of them will get lynched. OO deciding to bus artanis at this time: + Show Spoiler + On April 08 2013 08:23 ObviousOne wrote: British Empire Mini Mafia II [Town]: Comfortable with 180 when confronted with new information Openly questions his detractors Sarcasm/teeth to his posts Early game attention grabber with BS vote on Marv (wasn't even in the game) - not afraid of the spotlight Direct/engaged mid-lategame One of his post-game posts I believe he mentioned before in this game, that he was trying to change up his playstyle a bit: + Show Spoiler + On March 09 2013 09:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Well, just reading the thread and getting reads off that is easy, actually doing analysis on players and posting it and trying to convince others, using meta, etc. is something else and it's not something you bothered with. When I did do so and people barely/didn't respond to it and still happily voted for me, it doesn't particularly make the game very fun. Fruity Mafia [Town]: First major thing that stands out to me is how he formulated this post. He talked about 4 other players then said ObviousOne looked bad (I really did, bee tee dubs): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17802815 He guilted me out of my scum read on Toad (Zessionar in that game): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17811235 Full of questions / interactions / poking Was a town power role and got very bold D2 but town confidence overall was high. Otherwise rather similar to British TL Mafia LI [Mafia]: Talks about things mafia would/wouldn't do (his example was scum don't make big slips) Points out a big scum slip (lol see above) Posts in a reassuring tone (regarding his own reads) Attacked inactivity and claims Post-game confessions: Show nested quote + On April 13 2012 14:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm surprised so many people thought I was scum, given that I would've done the same lurking as town given the size of the game. I would've posted more if I could but I simply got lost in all the traffic; def won't be playing another 30 player game. The only post that really tipped me off was the one ghost accurately called out, I don't think I would've made that as town but mafia IRC said it was a good idea. Given my early bus on VE after his claim I'd think after VE flipped I'd get a bit more credit too. Characteristics I picked out from Haunted [2010]: - Makes summaries {conglomerations of players posts} with blanket statements regarding alignment - I used to do this all the time especially in my earliest games - Feigned/Real inactivity/unavailability - not necessarily a scum tell but a useful scum tool - Offers to be "helpful" for a period of time - not taking the initiative and doing something useful himself - Defensive stance - possibly a product of being under suspicion when being replaced in, but in this game was used to misdirect suspicion on lurkers to non-mafia faction THIS GAME: Dismissive in D0, not chasing shadows or anything really Some concept of a plan presented, not really pushed Not very inquisitive Giant poop in the thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18226316 No real back-and-forth happening Barely here The OBVIOUS conclusion: Scum Spend way more time defending / deflecting than scum hunting, less interactive than his town games. By extension of this, he's missing that edge of sarcasm and incredulity in his voice that is present when he calls people out on their bullshit as town. He doesn't seem interested in getting people to re-factor their reads. Way too defensive to match his town meta in any way. Added note: his filter is barely 2 pages and we've already been active for four real-time days if I am not fucking up my maths. Both scum game filters were short (less than 3 pages each) and showed him hiding by posting just enough to not be considered a lurker. Suddenly Artanis is among yamato's scumreads: + Show Spoiler + On April 08 2013 09:42 yamato77 wrote: Let's lynch Artanis. The fact that the lynch has met resistance and people are arguing about other cases that are "scummier" is a good thing. I love information. OO's analysis of his meta is decent, and coupled with gonzaw's case, I could see Artanus as scum. As for who to vig, it should obviously be sinani. If you read his filter, he posts opportunistically, and generally has little to say. One post in particular I called out as being especially horrible, the one where he gives his "thoughts" on the lynch candidates and is null on three out of four. I was scum with him in Red Team's Prize, and he's acting similar to that game, here his posting in the thread is quiet and not forceful. His "push" of BM as a vig shot is also terrible, because I actually have him down as likely town. As for myself, since people seem to think I need to contribute more, meh. I gave the game the start I wanted and I have some decent town reads out of that, so as far as continuing a high level of activity, I don't feel that it's necessary. I'm doing my own scum hunting, and I make myself known throughout the day on where I'm at. If I drop off the face of the planet, feel free to shoot/lynch me, but I'm not going to be hyperactive in these games anymore. Shortly after OO bussed, yamato adds Artanis to those he would lynch, without fighting for his own choices. far fetched intentionally miscontrues and evident of scum trying to hold onto a microcosm of life. Vivax, just concede man. your 100% getting lynched next cycle. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
April 15 2013 04:25 GMT
#3694
So we have some flexibility. Funniest twist woudl be if sinani was scum; and thats why he kept the vote rigged onto snb hmmmph. so many scummy ppl in this game (1) thing i abhor about yam is what vivax picked up how quickly he relinquished his vote onto artanis -> sinani. but, in hindsight im treating this more as egotistical yamato. instead of bandwagon onto gonzaw case. he tried to create his own bandwagon. fits his ego pretty well it hnk. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
April 15 2013 04:34 GMT
#3700
Vivax // Oats // Shevlocke We can do checks of whatever, but we are going to have to stop being lazy and revert back to traditoinal filter diving. The most removed player in that list is Shevlocke. He needs to go. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
April 15 2013 04:41 GMT
#3706
On April 15 2013 13:37 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2013 13:34 Mocsta wrote: The lowest fruit for me are Vivax // Oats // Shevlocke We can do checks of whatever, but we are going to have to stop being lazy and revert back to traditoinal filter diving. The most removed player in that list is Shevlocke. He needs to go. duuuuude. Why not yamato? Does he not have the ego thing playing scum? Cos Yam wasnt posting in Hydra or this. He prob was actually busy. And hes back to giving a shit about the game. Once i see the fruits of his labour, will be ina position to know if its 4 low fruit or keep at 3. Look; if i was last draft pick i would be demotivated. its actually hillarious in hindsight for town to be shafted on Justice Vig by scum!! ============== Sorry guys i know this is lazy and uselesss but i really cant remember the checks from Night 2. Can someone please summarise them? | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
April 15 2013 04:45 GMT
#3709
which is the point i was talking about.. a town should be particpating now, MORE THAN EVER. Hes not pressured, and feels no guilt. The ppl making cases on Shevlocke early game, were town too (Austin etc) SHEVLOCKE MUST BURN | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
April 15 2013 04:48 GMT
#3712
================= Vivax/Kei should both check Shelvocke, in case he shoots one of you. I will role check Vivax. If i die & Shelvocke returns green.. then kill Vivax. ================= Sound good? | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
April 15 2013 04:59 GMT
#3719
On April 15 2013 13:54 Vivax wrote: I went through flipped scum filters, they make me think Shelvocke might not be scum actually. Artanis wanted him dead, called him scum. VE sounded like he was setting himself up to lynch him/found him suspicious. OO defended MZ against Shelvocke. BM did kinda avoid talking directly about him. Called him a hero once though. Thats the conclusion I came to Day 3. But, Shelvocke hasnt done anything since. Scum havnt conceded, even though seriously outnumbered. So they obviously arent under pressure. The corollary is we havnt been pressuring scum (esp because SnB was target du jour) So that leaves Shelvocke and Oats. Im honsetly not sure if scum oats has the balls to convince 3 ppl he is town. Especially now that Kei has access to the qt (and still didnt post the logs). So that leaves Shelvocke as the most viable lynch. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
April 15 2013 05:11 GMT
#3722
i like the Bm quote on shelvocke. it does register as authentic reaction. hmmmm. How the fuck can a scum vote rigger be a gf... ggrrrrrr; | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
April 15 2013 05:58 GMT
#3729
On April 15 2013 14:49 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2013 14:38 geript wrote: People are reading the wrong filters. I think people should read Caller's filter. Especially the section where he starts attacking Keirathi. It was literally once there was a head of steam going his way that Artanis popped in with his case on me at that point. As a matter of fact, both Bill Murray and Obvious One pop in to make points. Next VE comes in with his case on RO as well. It completely shifted the conversation away from keirathi. It absolutely disrupted the conversation and got people shifted off of it. I'm going to request that everyone reads pages ~38-50 as it's a huge surge in Scum activity. I don't think scum sat there, organized and with a plan on what to do, to come out organized exactly when Keirathi got attacked. Have yet to see a scum pr0 team like that lol. Have u seena team bus them selves so hard. normal things are thrown out the game. keirathi did have a very suspect early game. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
April 15 2013 06:01 GMT
#3730
On April 15 2013 14:55 yamato77 wrote: If Keir is scum, he deserves to win, IMO. My problem with Kei is to do with In the hydra 1. i felt he was town instantly based on pressure applied in the game. i thought he was town based on thought process I never got any of that this game... the thought has a lot of credence. | ||
Mocsta
Australia8809 Posts
April 15 2013 06:18 GMT
#3744
ur gettinng lyncvhed next cycle <3 | ||
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