EPTI'm still kinda blown away by the whole BM Justice-Vigging Caller and being alive thing. Because that would make BM confirmed town (picking a role like that), but it all seems so weird. That is to say, it seems so unlikely, I'd like to see BM die and flip. However, The chances of BM putting himself out there like this with so few mafia left if he were mafia also seem around 0. URGH.
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I'm still kinda blown away by the whole BM Justice-Vigging Caller and being alive thing. Because that would make BM confirmed town (picking a role like that), but it all seems so weird. That is to say, it seems so unlikely, I'd like to see BM die and flip. However, The chances of BM putting himself out there like this with so few mafia left if he were mafia also seem around 0. URGH. | ||
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On April 11 2013 02:14 Vivax wrote: I'm confirmed town though, Palmar gave me a townread Palmar gave me a scumread and I'm confirmed town. Means Palmar was full of it. | ||
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On April 11 2013 02:47 Vivax wrote: Oo, Sinani, Shelvocke and Sno should look through and give out reads of each other. I've posted long ago that Sinani looks like scum to me, Shelvocke doesn't (although his hijinks with "shooting" M_Z etc were... unhelpful). Shelvocke hasn't really helped his image much. Sinani has at least resumed some form of posting but not really in a town-helping manner. He does look like easy lynch-bait though, which is about the only thing he has going for him. | ||
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On April 11 2013 03:59 yamato77 wrote: It should be pretty obvious that I tried to pick Justice Vigi and failed. As for who I want to lynch, I feel good about my choices. You guys are fucking around a lot and I'm not interested in reading a bunch of bullshit posts ATM so forgive me if something else happened. Well, it wasn't obvious that you tried to pick Justice Vigi but w/e. You didn't miss it by much if BM is to be believed. Meapak_Ziphh is apparently part of a PM circle with Oats and Restraining Order, both of whom swear he is town. That vote may be one you wish to reconsider (or not, but for now I'm believing them). | ||
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On April 11 2013 04:03 yamato77 wrote: I don't like either of those people, so no, I won't reconsider. Are you of the opinion that M_Z has successfully misled both of them or are you of the opinion that one or both of them are also scum? | ||
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The 2 that have talked seem decently convinced of each other's towniness, not just leaning. And I'm not so sure either of them could convince each other THAT well as mafia. M_Z is afaik an old name and who knows he might have it in him to pull the wool over the other two's eyes. That would line up with him being mafia and firing a weird nuke, but I still don't see it as very likely. That is to say, THERE CAN'T BE THAT MANY SCUM LEFT. If BM is justice vig then there are MAX 2 scum left. If BM is lying then hes one of the scum and there are MAX 2 other scum left. So it can't be 3 scum in the circle. I just don't think it's likely that with 2 scum left (+ or minus a traitor or two, but we know the roles of M_Z oats and RO) that M_Z is scum. Right now my biggest questions are Bill Murray (everything about him is so WTF?) and then Sharrant/Sinani: scummy not-so-useful players with weak defenses at best. Vivax is still on the list of "Has a decent chance to flip scum, dying might be informative", but he is present and doing stuff and IMO less scummy than the others. | ||
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Like, seriously. He HAS to be. Nobody is that dumb are they? That would mean very very few scum left but I'm leery. Deconduo sounded serious (if he was scum he should KNOW that claim gets him lynched, with scumbuddies and all). | ||
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Recruiting Mason - You are the recruiting mason and you love pm networks. After all rolepicks are distributed you will be partnered with 1 person in a pm network. Then every night you will randomly add 1 more player into your pm network (so you will start with a 2 man network before day 1 starts, then add 1 more every night). Everyone will know who is in the network and everyone in the network can pm one another or the entire group (or you can just use a quicktopic), and anyone can be in it, town or mafia. From the OP | ||
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On April 11 2013 04:46 yamato77 wrote: Too bad, I guess M_Z dies. He really doesn't have THAT many votes right now does he? I'm lazy. Need a votecount. | ||
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Beyond that, it's possible he got his role stolen by the guy who prevents use the night he steals, but BM was like 20th pick so no thief in their right mind targets him. Plus I thought BM would be informed of this and would share it  . | ||
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On April 11 2013 05:12 Keirathi wrote: So I was thinking about BM some more because of this post. BM almost HAS to be town. What do we know? 1) BM claims Justice Vigi who shot Caller 2) Caller died, BM still alive 3) yamato claimed he tried to take justice vigi. 4) Justice Vigi is 100% not a mafia role. They can't shoot townies with it. So what does that mean? First off, if BM was lying but yamato isn't, then why hasn't the real JV counterclaimed BM yet? So yea, not likely at all, IMO. The only way BM is not JV is if him and yamato BOTH lied. Why would scum link themselves together in a lie like that? If BM ever flips anything other than JV, it outs yamato as lying. If yamato ever flips anything other than VT (and especially if he flips scum non-VT), it makes BM's claim questionable. Maybe not auto-lynch worthy (because scum yamato could have thought about the implications of lying about JV to make BM possibly look bad later but I don't find that very likely at all), but worth looking into. Yeah, I've basically come to the conclusion that BM is insane but somehow confirmed town in this case. Unvoted him in favour of sinani. | ||
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On April 11 2013 05:14 austinmcc wrote: BM probably not a good check based on that, plus, justice vigi is a role that confirms himself. Janitor is gone, so either a mafia member dies EVERY night phase, or the justice vigi dies. If you don't see either of those things happen, there is no justice vigi, and yamato is lying and gets lynched. Because the role is compulsive and has a confirmable outcome, there's no need to check whoever claims it. The claim gets verified by the flips in the case of that role. Good point. BM is a bad check, we'll know enough about him come Day 3. | ||
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Anybody else getting... unhelpful vibes from geript? At this point he feels like he wants to make it hard for town to see the situation clearly.n | ||
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On April 11 2013 08:50 Vivax wrote: Imo the invention is fake or has been created by scum, and the result is unreliable. The inventor's choice to give it to keirathi rather than someone like geript who played a huge role during D1's lynches makes it questionable. + Show Spoiler + Lie detectors don't exist, they're just used by psychologists to trick people. On another note, there's nothing stopping Keirathi from fakeclaiming a correct (?) DT check on the almost dead austin, and it happened right around the time where MZ shot the nuke. Keirathi actually claimed at this time 11:24 and this time 11:26, and MZ shot during 11:27. Do you see any purpose in Keirathi not playing like a smart cop and blowing up his cover to say austin is town, rather than wait to see if he's even getting lynched during the day? I don't, I think there's a decent chance this might be scum powerplay. Geript kept trumpeting his role when everything he did could easily have been as scum (especially given how Caller worked out). Now he casts suspicion on 3 (three) near-confirmed town in one post. Then vivax charges in and announces that scum are trying to take over the thread because Keirathi got the invention? Man, this thread took a turn for the worse in the last hour. | ||
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On April 11 2013 09:09 austinmcc wrote: Should keep moving up on claims. Vivax, shelvocke, mocsta At this point, agreed. | ||
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I'll give you a reason why not: lynches are towns power. The more lynches town has, the better chance at victory. Night is scum's power. The longer the game goes the more inevitable it is in scum favour. You are so scummy geript  | ||
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On April 11 2013 10:21 geript wrote: It's obvious that no one is putting in the work to town hunt. There's no agreed policy lynches. There's also no flip for whoever dies at lynch. No reason to deny town more information. A second lynch looks almost assured to be a mislynch at this point no reason to shoot ourselves in the foot any further. Read janitor role bro Today's lynches flip | ||
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