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Shelvocke
Profile Joined March 2013
Grenada70 Posts
April 15 2013 06:11 GMT
#3741
I'm still alive? Fuck the haters.
Water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 15 2013 06:14 GMT
#3742
Here was the post:

On April 15 2013 01:06 Keirathi wrote:
Oh yea, and as far as me being scum:

Remember, I was the first of the cops to claim my actual role. We had 3 people claim cop checks...me, austin, and S&B. Vivax hadn't claimed yet. And remember, austin and S&B had both claimed alignment checks, S&B hadn't claimed his role check yet, nor had Sharrant claimed that he had tried to take DT yet. So, despite all that, I just happened to guess the right cop role that wasn't picked? So yea, its EXTREMELY likely that I am actually NKVD.

If you want to say "Okay, I believe that you are NKVD because the facts don't make sense otherwise, but I still think you could have picked NKVD as scum." Then I ask you the question: why would I have? Yes, I have myself set up to return as vanilla to role cop checks (because I expected, and still sorta do, that scum probably took a role check ability if they took assassin). But if I was scum, why not just take Godfather, and get to protect one of my teammates as well? NKVD is strictly inferior to GF in every way. Also of note is that NKVD doesn't change your alignment to alignment checks, so an alignment check could clear this right up.


Bolded relevant part, although all of it is pretty relevant I guess.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Shelvocke
Profile Joined March 2013
Grenada70 Posts
April 15 2013 06:17 GMT
#3743
The mason qt is pointless to read as MZ is the only one who posted anything of value in there. Not going to bother posting it.
Water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 15 2013 06:18 GMT
#3744
kk shelvocke

ur gettinng lyncvhed next cycle

<3
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 15 2013 06:18 GMT
#3745
Vote track for D1:
RO on VE
Oats on Vivax
VE on RO
Shelvocke on VE
Sharrant on Keirathi
Vivax on RO
BM on Keirathi
BM off Keirathi onto SNB

Deconduo on SNB
Yamato on Palmar
Geript on VE
Austin on Shelvocke
Keirathi on Rayn
Mocsta on SNB
Sinani on SNB
gonzaw on artanis
Geript off VE onto Rayn
Mocsta off SNB onto Artanis
VE off RO onto deconduo
Caller on Artanis
RO off VE and onto SNB
Deconduo off of SNB
Oats off of Vivax and onto Artanis
MZ onto Artanis
Deconduo onto Shelvocke

Vivax off of RO and onto Sn0
Artanis onto Shelvocke
Palmar on Artanis
Shelvocke off of VE and onto Artanis
Keirathi off of Rayn
OO onto Artanis
Yamato off of Palmar and onto Artanis
RO off of SNB and onto Artanis
Caller off of Artanis and onto OO
Sharrant off of Keirathi and onto OO

Geript off of Rayn and onto VE
BM off of SNB and onto Sinani
BM off of Sinani and onto Artanis

Shelvocke off of Artanis
Yamato off of Artanis and onto Sinani
Mocsta off of Artanis and onto VE
Rayn onto VE
Artanis off of Shelvocke and onto Caller
Oats off of Artanis and onto VE
Sn0 onto Sinani
SNB onto VE

Artanis off of Caller and onto VE
RO off of Artanis and onto VE
SHOWTIME VOTING POST END OF DAY
Shelvocke onto VE

In another more readable form:
Unofficial Vote Count:
Visceraeyes (8): Restraining Order, Shelvocke, geript, geript, Mocsta, raynpelikoneet, Oatsmaster, strongandbig, Artanis[xp], Restraining Order, Shelvocke
Vivax (0): Oatsmaster
Restraining Order (0): Visceraeyes, Vivax
Keirathi (0): Sharrant, Bill Murray
strongandbig (2): Bill Murray, deconduo, Mocsta, Sinani206, Restraining Order
Palmar (0): yamato77
Shelvocke (2): austinmcc, deconduo, Artanis[xp]
raynpelikoneet (0): Keirathi, geript
Artanis[xp] (5): gonzaw, Mocsta, Oatsmaster, Meatpak_Ziphh, Palmar, Shelvocke, ObviousOne, yamato77, Restraining Order, Bill Murray
deconduo (1): Visceraeyes
ObviousOne (2): Caller, Sharrant
Sno_man (1): Vivax
Sinani206 (2): Bill Murray, yamato77, Sno_man
Caller (0): Artanis[xp]
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 15 2013 06:18 GMT
#3746
On April 15 2013 15:17 Shelvocke wrote:
The mason qt is pointless to read as MZ is the only one who posted anything of value in there. Not going to bother posting it.

Its cause we are all town in there ^^

Or are you town?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 15 2013 06:19 GMT
#3747
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 15 2013 15:18 geript wrote:
Vote track for D1:
RO on VE
Oats on Vivax
VE on RO
Shelvocke on VE
Sharrant on Keirathi
Vivax on RO
BM on Keirathi
BM off Keirathi onto SNB

Deconduo on SNB
Yamato on Palmar
Geript on VE
Austin on Shelvocke
Keirathi on Rayn
Mocsta on SNB
Sinani on SNB
gonzaw on artanis
Geript off VE onto Rayn
Mocsta off SNB onto Artanis
VE off RO onto deconduo
Caller on Artanis
RO off VE and onto SNB
Deconduo off of SNB
Oats off of Vivax and onto Artanis
MZ onto Artanis
Deconduo onto Shelvocke

Vivax off of RO and onto Sn0
Artanis onto Shelvocke
Palmar on Artanis
Shelvocke off of VE and onto Artanis
Keirathi off of Rayn
OO onto Artanis
Yamato off of Palmar and onto Artanis
RO off of SNB and onto Artanis
Caller off of Artanis and onto OO
Sharrant off of Keirathi and onto OO

Geript off of Rayn and onto VE
BM off of SNB and onto Sinani
BM off of Sinani and onto Artanis

Shelvocke off of Artanis
Yamato off of Artanis and onto Sinani
Mocsta off of Artanis and onto VE
Rayn onto VE
Artanis off of Shelvocke and onto Caller
Oats off of Artanis and onto VE
Sn0 onto Sinani
SNB onto VE

Artanis off of Caller and onto VE
RO off of Artanis and onto VE
SHOWTIME VOTING POST END OF DAY
Shelvocke onto VE

In another more readable form:
Unofficial Vote Count:
Visceraeyes (8): Restraining Order, Shelvocke, geript, geript, Mocsta, raynpelikoneet, Oatsmaster, strongandbig, Artanis[xp], Restraining Order, Shelvocke
Vivax (0): Oatsmaster
Restraining Order (0): Visceraeyes, Vivax
Keirathi (0): Sharrant, Bill Murray
strongandbig (2): Bill Murray, deconduo, Mocsta, Sinani206, Restraining Order
Palmar (0): yamato77
Shelvocke (2): austinmcc, deconduo, Artanis[xp]
raynpelikoneet (0): Keirathi, geript
Artanis[xp] (5): gonzaw, Mocsta, Oatsmaster, Meatpak_Ziphh, Palmar, Shelvocke, ObviousOne, yamato77, Restraining Order, Bill Murray
deconduo (1): Visceraeyes
ObviousOne (2): Caller, Sharrant
Sno_man (1): Vivax
Sinani206 (2): Bill Murray, yamato77, Sno_man
Caller (0): Artanis[xp]


I think its interesting that no scum ended up on shelvocke.
No gg, No skill.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 15 2013 06:21 GMT
#3748
Anyway, we know Keirathi can change his role but not his alignment (like I thought he could), so we'll simply do this: I check Keirathi and Keirathi checks me.

If yamato is GF he picked Vanilla anyway, but he can frame people according to role so we have to watch out tonight. If I come back red I have been framed and he's scum, you can lynch me and will find out, yamato might try to put it onto RO who is very unlikely scum imo.
Sinani apparently picked Rigger and has a green check so he's the least worrisome check.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 15 2013 06:26 GMT
#3749
On April 15 2013 15:21 Vivax wrote:
Anyway, we know Keirathi can change his role but not his alignment (like I thought he could), so we'll simply do this: I check Keirathi and Keirathi checks me.

If yamato is GF he picked Vanilla anyway, but he can frame people according to role so we have to watch out tonight. If I come back red I have been framed and he's scum, you can lynch me and will find out, yamato might try to put it onto RO who is very unlikely scum imo.
Sinani apparently picked Rigger and has a green check so he's the least worrisome check.

Wait why is sinani not worrisome? Vote rigger is good for scum, and with a gf, checks arent as reliable.
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 15 2013 06:26 GMT
#3750
On April 06 2013 12:47 Bill Murray wrote:
whatever you're just dumb town after all
On April 15 2013 14:40 geript wrote:
FUCK how did I miss this.

Geript, this raises a very very very good point.

Please read
+ Show Spoiler +
You should be lynched.


Why?

+ Show Spoiler +

BM isnt stupid; and carefully chose his actions. This is now pretty obvious in the way he carried himself through the game.

Henceforth, its not realistic to expect BM to drop a "dumb town" comment into the mix randomly.


Say What......
+ Show Spoiler +

I didnt stutter.

This is an intentional quote thrown in, for Geript to claim if shit hits the fan.

Geript probably is a VT so role check is useless via choosing something in the top 5 (other than NRA).

We all know someone led the save of Artanis. Think about it.. who truly initiated it, cso SnB followed on.
Geript was the guy who saved Artanis; by throwing VE under the bus.

Why not BM? With arguably the lesser role (if you want to resort to WIFOM, we dont know the rules of "injustice vigi") Because the canvas wasn't set for BM to be bussed. Whereas Geript prodded VE from the start


Nah, you tunneled bro

+ Show Spoiler +
No im not.
Geript has done fuck all this game. And has been yelling at us to call him confirmed, but no1 ever did.
Some how, this fuck of a player managed to secure VE off a nothing/fuck-all filter.
And magically had the same role as VE too.

This guy has done nothing all game now, except proceed to tunnel Keirathi into oblivion


Guys.. regardless of who dies, and who is checked. Lynch this scum muda farker
+ Show Spoiler +

##Vote: Geript

you can concede now
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 15 2013 06:26 GMT
#3751
Looking at the order of the votes, I feel safe in thinking that RO isn't scum. Based on timing, Mocsta could be scum but honestly I don't see that considering how heavily he pushed Artanis. Shelvocke tends t vote close to scum which I think is far more likely to be from town.

Also, when you look at the the splayed out votes, you can see a trend. Scum tend to be early voters on the non-scum wagons that are forming and late on the scum wagons that have formed. That leaves Keirathi, Yamato and Vivax in the trend.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 15 2013 06:32 GMT
#3752
Moc, I'll talk to you tomorrow. But you're dead wrong about me.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 15 2013 06:36 GMT
#3753
On April 15 2013 15:26 geript wrote:
Looking at the order of the votes, I feel safe in thinking that RO isn't scum. Based on timing, Mocsta could be scum but honestly I don't see that considering how heavily he pushed Artanis. Shelvocke tends t vote close to scum which I think is far more likely to be from town.

Also, when you look at the the splayed out votes, you can see a trend. Scum tend to be early voters on the non-scum wagons that are forming and late on the scum wagons that have formed. That leaves Keirathi, Yamato and Vivax in the trend.

Awesome summary post of stuff we alerady discussed, just wrapped in a vote count analysis.

We alraedy know RO is confirmed, via the way artanis pushed him.
We already know Mocsta is confirmed, via the way he pushed artanis/VE.

Shelvocke should be confirmed via the way scum pushed him; but has done fuck all.
Sinani should be confimed via the ways cum pushed him; but has done fuck all

Keirathi should be confirmed via the way he has maintained discussion post-night1; but the game is so shit in general, its suspect he is around.
yamato has done fuck all, all game; but not in a way I remember of him as scum. I never remember red team prize. Hes way more active in hydra. and i truly think its a combination of last in the draft // vt role for an outlier choice.

Vivax has done fuck all, all game; the vote on Sn0 day1 is suspicious
Geript has done fuck all, all game; the scored VE right, and thats it. Wnats to immediately be confirmed after that. Very suspicious. As town I want to be confirmed so ppl stop considering me (to make the game easier to solve).. i still try to scum hunt... not getting that here.
Oatsmaster has done fuck all, all game; hes more useless than i remember late game as town.

============================
2 confirms

2 mild => prob bored VT-equivalent -> sheep

2 maybes => gonna have to treat as town

Out of the three
Vivax/Oats/Geript... who is the most likely to concede

Oats

Hence, Oats shifts into milk group.

We left with scum as Vivax or Geript.

I think Vivax woulda resigned because of the # advantage.

This leaves us with Geript as scum who led the bandwagon off Artanis.. and also as the guy who has been pushign confirmed town down our throats because this guy has the INNATE DESIRE to actually end game to the bitter end.

Thats right you heard it here.. Geript is one sadistic fuck.

DIE SCUM!
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 15 2013 06:37 GMT
#3754
On April 15 2013 15:32 geript wrote:
Moc, I'll talk to you tomorrow. But you're dead wrong about me.

IF im alive muda farker.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 15 2013 06:37 GMT
#3755
One last point I'd like to make Moc. Go back and look at when I started to bus BH in The Game. I did it exactly when two or three players (a few with notable thread presence) noticed he was suspicious; what was my response, make a few weak ass points that I never terribly followed up on significantly. When the vote scramble game with the VE stuff did I revert to my "scum read" on BH or even seriously entertain or offer BH up as a lynch option for me? No, he was a side mention while I was on "totes 3P VE." I don't hard bus from the start.

I also ask you this... how many cases have scum made against scum at this point? Seriously? I don't remember any (although I'm not done with my readthrough). Honestly, I expect much better than this, but if you need to lynch me to realize that I'm right on Keirathi then please do so if you have to.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 15 2013 06:40 GMT
#3756
Either way, before you try and get me mislynched go ahead and actually read the pages I suggested. You'll see what I was getting at I hope.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 15 2013 06:42 GMT
#3757
stop fucking saying that scum concede. Scum SHOULD only concede when they get lynched, its just that people get lazy.

Do not use that as a reason to exonerate anyone.

I want to lynch Vivax. Possibly yamato, not geript. What more 'late game' do you want?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 15 2013 06:44 GMT
#3758
On April 15 2013 15:37 geript wrote:
but if you need to lynch me to realize that I'm right on Keirathi then please do so if you have to.

Vivax 2.0?
Please dont. Please.
No gg, No skill.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 15 2013 06:47 GMT
#3759
Ok, then you go read caller's case on Keirathi and see how scum responded. It's around page 38 or so. Then read how scum responded to my case on VE. They kept activity up until the thread shifted to other topics. It's not a coincidence, it's a fact. GO READ. Stop being lazy. If Keir was town, why would they care if he's getting pressured?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 15 2013 06:48 GMT
#3760
On April 15 2013 15:37 geript wrote:
One last point I'd like to make Moc. Go back and look at when I started to bus BH in The Game. I did it exactly when two or three players (a few with notable thread presence) noticed he was suspicious; what was my response, make a few weak ass points that I never terribly followed up on significantly. When the vote scramble game with the VE stuff did I revert to my "scum read" on BH or even seriously entertain or offer BH up as a lynch option for me? No, he was a side mention while I was on "totes 3P VE." I don't hard bus from the start.

I also ask you this... how many cases have scum made against scum at this point? Seriously? I don't remember any (although I'm not done with my readthrough). Honestly, I expect much better than this, but if you need to lynch me to realize that I'm right on Keirathi then please do so if you have to.

Nope. im sorry im reverting to primitive scum hunting, where i throw out loose statements (because im too lazy to filter read)
& judge the reactions.

Im sorry, thsi is going no where and im clouding the thread.

Im going to do us all a service and clock off.

I will do the courtesy of reading those pages when I clock back on.

When I did my Day2, VCA on day1.. it was very frustrating that kei never had a final vote (cos day ended early).
its also odd that he unvoted in the first place; and wanted to take his time. Considering everyone else took a stance.
That action *is* genuinely peculiar.
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