Well OO's wasn't a good bus and that's what caught attention, BM bussed with a vote and nothing else, VE didn't really bus IIRC, Artanis spread out his reads a lot.

But that's not the point, I would find the interactions odd if they were between scumbuddies, I also looked at Oats with these in mind and I don't think he's scum anymore.

Sinani was defended by all of scum except for Artanis who changed opinion on him when it looked like he was getting lynched.

I'd currently lynch between Sinani or yamato, Keirathi has to be lynched at lylo.

Mocsta

Australia9389 Posts

April 15 2013 05:11 GMT

#3722

indeed. keirathi at lylo.

i like the Bm quote on shelvocke. it does register as authentic reaction.

hmmmm. How the fuck can a scum vote rigger be a gf... ggrrrrrr;

geript

10024 Posts

April 15 2013 05:38 GMT

#3723

People are reading the wrong filters. I think people should read Caller's filter. Especially the section where he starts attacking Keirathi. It was literally once there was a head of steam going his way that Artanis popped in with his case on me at that point. As a matter of fact, both Bill Murray and Obvious One pop in to make points. Next VE comes in with his case on RO as well. It completely shifted the conversation away from keirathi. It absolutely disrupted the conversation and got people shifted off of it.

I'm going to request that everyone reads pages ~38-50 as it's a huge surge in Scum activity.

geript

10024 Posts

April 15 2013 05:40 GMT

#3724

On April 06 2013 12:47 Bill Murray wrote:
whatever you're just dumb town after all

FUCK how did I miss this.

Vivax

22424 Posts

April 15 2013 05:49 GMT

#3725

On April 15 2013 14:38 geript wrote:
People are reading the wrong filters. I think people should read Caller's filter. Especially the section where he starts attacking Keirathi. It was literally once there was a head of steam going his way that Artanis popped in with his case on me at that point. As a matter of fact, both Bill Murray and Obvious One pop in to make points. Next VE comes in with his case on RO as well. It completely shifted the conversation away from keirathi. It absolutely disrupted the conversation and got people shifted off of it.

I'm going to request that everyone reads pages ~38-50 as it's a huge surge in Scum activity.

I don't think scum sat there, organized and with a plan on what to do, to come out organized exactly when Keirathi got attacked. Have yet to see a scum pr0 team like that lol.

geript

10024 Posts

April 15 2013 05:50 GMT

#3726

I have a very important point to make here:
Page 51:

On April 06 2013 12:47 Bill Murray wrote:
whatever you're just dumb town after all

BM flat out calls me dumb town. Clearly most of us were just skimming, but then after I make my larger case against VE here's what happens:
OO takes a large quote that asks an obvious question. BM makes a random post of no significance but significant length considering he had just dropped like 18 one-liners. Keirathi asks how I know that RO is a mislynch. Those pages are a huge surge in KNOWN SCUM activity. I find it exceptionally odd to to think that there's no reasoning behind it. In The Game Bugs, Kita and BH were great at spamming/attacking away thread sentiment to deflect enough away from them.

geript

10024 Posts

April 15 2013 05:54 GMT

#3727

On April 15 2013 14:49 Vivax wrote:
I don't think scum sat there, organized and with a plan on what to do, to come out organized exactly when Keirathi got attacked. Have yet to see a scum pr0 team like that lol.

Go reread those pages. Plus, this type of thing happened in the last large game WHERE I WAS SCUM!!! If you don't believe me then check it out. Don't you at least find it a little odd that BM on one page flat out calls me "DUMB TOWN" and Keirathi wants me to explain the phrase "RO is a great opportunity for a mislynch." Just go back and read. Look at time stamps. Follow the thread as it's evolving and you can see a huge spike in KNOWN SCUM activity. Why ignore this entirely?

yamato77

11589 Posts

April 15 2013 05:55 GMT

#3728

If Keir is scum, he deserves to win, IMO.

Mocsta

Australia9389 Posts

April 15 2013 05:58 GMT

#3729

On April 15 2013 14:49 Vivax wrote:

Show nested quote +

I don't think scum sat there, organized and with a plan on what to do, to come out organized exactly when Keirathi got attacked. Have yet to see a scum pr0 team like that lol.

Have u seena team bus them selves so hard.

normal things are thrown out the game.

keirathi did have a very suspect early game.

Mocsta

Australia9389 Posts

April 15 2013 06:01 GMT

#3730

On April 15 2013 14:55 yamato77 wrote:
If Keir is scum, he deserves to win, IMO.

My problem with Kei is to do with

In the hydra 1. i felt he was town instantly based on pressure applied

in the game. i thought he was town based on thought process

I never got any of that this game... the thought has a lot of credence.

yamato77

11589 Posts

April 15 2013 06:02 GMT

#3731

Show some examples of this bad early game and we'll talk about it further.

Keirathi

United States4679 Posts

April 15 2013 06:03 GMT

#3732

Yay, yet more accusations from the scumhunter extraordinaire. Except these aren't even accusations that I can even reply to. So even better.

The worst part is that if I had just kept my big mouth shut for 10 minutes, geript would have shot me, I would be confirmed town, and we would have lynched BM anyways. And S&B would still be alive.

The sad irony is that I'm the idiot, here

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

April 15 2013 06:05 GMT

#3733

Keirathi so townie.

This is so fucking horrible mocsta. We are not lynching Keirathi at lylo because we dont even know when lylo is, and cause he is the towniest dude left in the game.

Btw new dude is in the mason chat thing.

Keirathi

United States4679 Posts

April 15 2013 06:06 GMT

#3734

On April 15 2013 15:01 Mocsta wrote:

Show nested quote +

My problem with Kei is to do with

In the hydra 1. i felt he was town instantly based on pressure applied

in the game. i thought he was town based on thought process

I never got any of that this game... the thought has a lot of credence.

Instantly?

You realize I posted like 10 times day 1 of hydra, right? I think I maybe called Witty scum once, at the end of the day. Other than that, I did jack shit.

People kept referring to hydra in Red Team too with that same shitty example of why they thought I was town. Day 2/3 != Day 1.

The mind just boggles

Keirathi

United States4679 Posts

April 15 2013 06:08 GMT

#3735

On April 15 2013 15:02 yamato77 wrote:
Show some examples of this bad early game and we'll talk about it further.

My day 1 reads were quite bad. It should be pretty easy to see for yourself

Vivax

22424 Posts

April 15 2013 06:09 GMT

#3736

Well Keirathi is forcing himself to confirm townies with his claim. He can't escape getting caught unless he starts throwing in concerns about a GF, which he could do now given some facets of yamato's play.

yamato77

11589 Posts

April 15 2013 06:09 GMT

#3737

I'm too tired to click through filters.

/lazy

Vivax

22424 Posts

April 15 2013 06:10 GMT

#3738

Keirathi, since you said you're NKVD, you can choose as what to appear, what did/will you pick tonight?

Keirathi

United States4679 Posts

April 15 2013 06:11 GMT

#3739

On April 15 2013 15:10 Vivax wrote:
Keirathi, since you said you're NKVD, you can choose as what to appear, what did/will you pick tonight?

I sent in vanilla on day 1. I believe I already said that.

I'm actually not sure if I have to send in a new role every night or not. I haven't been. I won't tonight either, but obviously that means nothing.