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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
April 14 2013 05:26 GMT
#3541
I don't see why I should choose the rig target before we've had the day is almost over.
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 14 2013 05:29 GMT
#3542
Don't we have like 24 hours still? Have I completely lost track of time?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 14 2013 05:50 GMT
#3543
Vivax

Who was the check on

And what was the outcome
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
April 14 2013 07:21 GMT
#3544
On April 14 2013 14:29 geript wrote:
Don't we have like 24 hours still? Have I completely lost track of time?


yeah thats my point
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 14 2013 11:39 GMT
#3545
On April 14 2013 13:43 Shelvocke wrote:
Can someone post the mason logs?

Tell you what, I'm going to post the logs once you have shared all of the following within the day:

Thoughts on all remaining players
Who you want to lynch and why
Who you think is scum and why
And 2 mystery topics that you find important but none of us have really talked about/acknowledged yet.

It's in your pooooower.
Don't let me stop you.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 14 2013 13:52 GMT
#3546
On April 14 2013 14:50 Mocsta wrote:
Vivax

Who was the check on

And what was the outcome


You're an idiot
He's posted this
And I've like re-posted it
Why don't you even try to look
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 14 2013 15:22 GMT
#3547
On April 14 2013 06:57 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 04:49 Keirathi wrote:
RO can't frame himself.

But the better question is, who is he using his frames on? Just not using them? Why not at least throw one on his teammate BillMurray? I mean, no one said we were checking BM; I kinda just made that decision at the last minute because BM wasn't cooperating and said he was "fishing for reactions".

RO being scum is not impossible, but RO being scum AND framer seems quite unlikely.


oh i didnt realize that he couldnt frame himself.

well who do you think we should lynch today?

It's a toss up between you and Vivax, with you leading right now.

So, who do YOU want to lynch today? You haven't said. Well, I guess you said that we should lynch dandel, but only because you think he is framer. What about his play? What about anyone else?


On April 14 2013 13:42 geript wrote:
I don't understand why Keirathi is getting a free pass here. He himself said multiple times IIRC that BM's role would reveal itself regardless and had no need for investigation. There was literally 0 reason to check him. Checking Micsta, Vivax, RO or S&B were his best options clearly. I really wish I had thought more and tossed it at Keirathi instead. Why is he not being looked at whatsoever?


I'll explain. Yes, his role was self-confirming if he was town AND he was compulsive, or if he was town and not compulsive but agreed to shoot a specific target for us and "take one for the team". If he wasn't using his ability in any way we could track, then how was he self-confirming?

He claimed that he wasn't compulsive anymore. I dunno about you, but I don't think that's entirely out of the realm of possibilities for a theme bonus. And if he's not compulsive, then him being alive doesn't mean anything. He would have just been this big question mark until someone checked him or we just lynched him anyways. Better to be sure, IMO.

As for the bolded: you have no idea how much I wish you had to.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 14 2013 16:06 GMT
#3548
Oh yea, and as far as me being scum:

Remember, I was the first of the cops to claim my actual role. We had 3 people claim cop checks...me, austin, and S&B. Vivax hadn't claimed yet. And remember, austin and S&B had both claimed alignment checks, S&B hadn't claimed his role check yet, nor had Sharrant claimed that he had tried to take DT yet. So, despite all that, I just happened to guess the right cop role that wasn't picked? So yea, its EXTREMELY likely that I am actually NKVD.

If you want to say "Okay, I believe that you are NKVD because the facts don't make sense otherwise, but I still think you could have picked NKVD as scum." Then I ask you the question: why would I have? Yes, I have myself set up to return as vanilla to role cop checks (because I expected, and still sorta do, that scum probably took a role check ability if they took assassin). But if I was scum, why not just take Godfather, and get to protect one of my teammates as well? NKVD is strictly inferior to GF in every way. Also of note is that NKVD doesn't change your alignment to alignment checks, so an alignment check could clear this right up.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 14 2013 16:58 GMT
#3549
Scum took justice vig. They clearly asked about that. Why is it unbelievable that they could take NKVD and get roles off of it.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 14 2013 17:08 GMT
#3550
On April 15 2013 01:58 geript wrote:
Scum took justice vig. They clearly asked about that. Why is it unbelievable that they could take NKVD and get roles off of it.

For the same reason I don't think it likely that if Vivax is actually a Parity Cop that he is scum. I feel like that kind of bonus fundamentally changes how a role is designed and starts clashing with other roles, doing the exact same job. Maybe it is possible, I dunno. Of the two role bonuses we have evidence for, one was just an addon self-preservation power, and one (apparently) was a complete reversal of the role. (And I don't actually think this fundamentally makes the role start clashing with other roles...although it does provide a similar outcome, the mechanics are still different).
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
April 14 2013 18:27 GMT
#3551
##Vote Oatsmaster

Gnight
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
April 14 2013 18:33 GMT
#3552
On April 07 2013 16:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah Gonzaw.

I disagree that Artanis is scum.
Pure gut read so meh.
If you got the time, look at British 2.
Is he similar to there? Or different.


Why not Vivax?

Also Im up for a sn0man lynch for being UTTERLY USELESS.


On April 07 2013 16:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 16:08 gonzaw wrote:
On April 07 2013 16:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah Gonzaw.

I disagree that Artanis is scum.
Pure gut read so meh.
If you got the time, look at British 2.
Is he similar to there? Or different.


Why not Vivax?

Also Im up for a sn0man lynch for being UTTERLY USELESS.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=400346&user=19729

lol Artanis is playing NOTHING LIKE his town play in British 2

Do you have anything specific about it that makes me wrong? It seems it only makes me more sure he's scum >_>

nopey


On April 07 2013 16:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Gonzaw you understand what I mean by GUT READ? (it means I felt that he was town reading the thread.)

I agree that artanis looks scummy.

I still want to lynch Vivax though, Im way more familar with his play and this does not feel like his town play.

Also he is scummy!?!?!

(so wishywashy right? )

Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 14 2013 18:38 GMT
#3553
Association with scum, you say?


Needed reminder:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403766&currentpage=96#1910
Don't let me stop you.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
April 14 2013 18:51 GMT
#3554
I dun care, checking your french girl tonight if town grows some neurons.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
April 14 2013 18:52 GMT
#3555
We also know there are two scum left herp
Caller was town derp
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 14 2013 18:53 GMT
#3556
On April 15 2013 00:22 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 06:57 strongandbig wrote:
On April 14 2013 04:49 Keirathi wrote:
RO can't frame himself.

But the better question is, who is he using his frames on? Just not using them? Why not at least throw one on his teammate BillMurray? I mean, no one said we were checking BM; I kinda just made that decision at the last minute because BM wasn't cooperating and said he was "fishing for reactions".

RO being scum is not impossible, but RO being scum AND framer seems quite unlikely.


oh i didnt realize that he couldnt frame himself.

well who do you think we should lynch today?

It's a toss up between you and Vivax, with you leading right now.

So, who do YOU want to lynch today? You haven't said. Well, I guess you said that we should lynch dandel, but only because you think he is framer. What about his play? What about anyone else?


Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 13:42 geript wrote:
I don't understand why Keirathi is getting a free pass here. He himself said multiple times IIRC that BM's role would reveal itself regardless and had no need for investigation. There was literally 0 reason to check him. Checking Micsta, Vivax, RO or S&B were his best options clearly. I really wish I had thought more and tossed it at Keirathi instead. Why is he not being looked at whatsoever?


I'll explain. Yes, his role was self-confirming if he was town AND he was compulsive, or if he was town and not compulsive but agreed to shoot a specific target for us and "take one for the team". If he wasn't using his ability in any way we could track, then how was he self-confirming?

He claimed that he wasn't compulsive anymore. I dunno about you, but I don't think that's entirely out of the realm of possibilities for a theme bonus. And if he's not compulsive, then him being alive doesn't mean anything. He would have just been this big question mark until someone checked him or we just lynched him anyways. Better to be sure, IMO.

As for the bolded: you have no idea how much I wish you had to.


you asked me who i want to lynch. i'm not sure.

based on the outing of VE as nra member, i think geript is town. based on role choice I think oatsmaster is town. Sinani, mocsta, and yamato all have green checks. vivax, you and me are all DTs and i still believe that lynching a DT doesn't make sense when we could be checking each other and others. That leaves Shelvocke and RO. So I want to lynch one of them.

i think it's actually pretty likely shelvocke is a traitor, especially if it's actually Ace. My point about him not knowing that DT was already taken was apparently incorrect, and that was the only reason I wasn't considering him the most likely traitor.

So at the moment I think I most want to lynch Shelvocke.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
April 14 2013 18:54 GMT
#3557
derp indeed, we lynched the fourth. Time for bed
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 14 2013 18:55 GMT
#3558
On April 15 2013 03:52 Vivax wrote:
We also know there are two scum left herp
Caller was town derp

artanis, VE, OO, and BM all flipped scum. There are either zero or one scum left, with the possibility of a traitor.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 14 2013 18:56 GMT
#3559
On April 15 2013 03:53 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 00:22 Keirathi wrote:
On April 14 2013 06:57 strongandbig wrote:
On April 14 2013 04:49 Keirathi wrote:
RO can't frame himself.

But the better question is, who is he using his frames on? Just not using them? Why not at least throw one on his teammate BillMurray? I mean, no one said we were checking BM; I kinda just made that decision at the last minute because BM wasn't cooperating and said he was "fishing for reactions".

RO being scum is not impossible, but RO being scum AND framer seems quite unlikely.


oh i didnt realize that he couldnt frame himself.

well who do you think we should lynch today?

It's a toss up between you and Vivax, with you leading right now.

So, who do YOU want to lynch today? You haven't said. Well, I guess you said that we should lynch dandel, but only because you think he is framer. What about his play? What about anyone else?


On April 14 2013 13:42 geript wrote:
I don't understand why Keirathi is getting a free pass here. He himself said multiple times IIRC that BM's role would reveal itself regardless and had no need for investigation. There was literally 0 reason to check him. Checking Micsta, Vivax, RO or S&B were his best options clearly. I really wish I had thought more and tossed it at Keirathi instead. Why is he not being looked at whatsoever?


I'll explain. Yes, his role was self-confirming if he was town AND he was compulsive, or if he was town and not compulsive but agreed to shoot a specific target for us and "take one for the team". If he wasn't using his ability in any way we could track, then how was he self-confirming?

He claimed that he wasn't compulsive anymore. I dunno about you, but I don't think that's entirely out of the realm of possibilities for a theme bonus. And if he's not compulsive, then him being alive doesn't mean anything. He would have just been this big question mark until someone checked him or we just lynched him anyways. Better to be sure, IMO.

As for the bolded: you have no idea how much I wish you had to.


you asked me who i want to lynch. i'm not sure.

based on the outing of VE as nra member, i think geript is town. based on role choice I think oatsmaster is town. Sinani, mocsta, and yamato all have green checks. vivax, you and me are all DTs and i still believe that lynching a DT doesn't make sense when we could be checking each other and others. That leaves Shelvocke and RO. So I want to lynch one of them.

i think it's actually pretty likely shelvocke is a traitor, especially if it's actually Ace. My point about him not knowing that DT was already taken was apparently incorrect, and that was the only reason I wasn't considering him the most likely traitor.

So at the moment I think I most want to lynch Shelvocke.


But I still wouldn't object to killing RO either.

anyway ##unvote
##vote: shelvocke
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 14 2013 19:02 GMT
#3560
Lynching for a traitor is dumb. We dont' know that there's a traitor or not.

Lynch for scum. If we kill 5, and the game is still going, THEN worry about it.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
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