Boardwalk Empire Mafia: Pick Your Power - Page 175

On April 13 2013 23:51 strongandbig wrote:
Yammo is vanilla townie

If deconduo was scum janitor we could be looking for a traitor, otherwise I guess we are forced to conclude he really was a townie who used janitor night 1

Why do ppl want to lynch me? This is like the first time that most of my scum reads have actually been correct

Also lynching one of our investigative roles when we don't have to seems pretty dumb. Whether I'm town or scum, anyone I give a green check to is not scum

Also also BM not wanting to shoot me is not alignment indicative towards me, because if he shoots me and I'm not scum then BM gets auto lynched

On April 14 2013 00:17 Restraining Order wrote:
Pretty sure that was Oats, dud.


Anyways, snb I'll give you 5 more minutes to answer my simple question.

On April 13 2013 23:55 raynmaster wrote:


wtf dude? You said it wasnt alignment indicative towards you then you said it makes you townie. Wtf dude.

Who do you want to lynch?

On April 10 2013 07:04 strongandbig wrote:
if i were a vig i would probably shoot oo

or maybe i am a vig and have shot him already! scum you will never know the truth

On April 10 2013 08:44 strongandbig wrote:
obviousone
still shelvocke
both for reasons expressed earlier in my filter as well as by others

maybe meapak, he's acting as i would expect a pretty demoralized scummer to act (ie, not playing or defending himself) and i would expect scum to be pretty demoralized after that d1

but basically i'm expecting so much stuff to happen at the end of this night phase that i haven't seen much reason to be super active until we know what's happening

On April 10 2013 08:45 strongandbig wrote:
mocsta what do you think of obviousone?
for that matter what do you think of sharrant?

no need for a filter dive impressions are fine

maybe meapak, he's acting as i would expect a pretty demoralized scummer to act (ie, not playing or defending himself) and i would expect scum to be pretty demoralized after that d1

if i were a vig i would probably shoot oo

On April 14 2013 00:00 Restraining Order wrote:

Why did you investigate M_Z on n1?

On April 14 2013 00:22 Restraining Order wrote:
Okay.

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The only mention he made here of M_Z before investigating him

That's a pretty weak line of suspicion.

He said far more about OO, in a far 'stronger' way. Prime example:
etc.

This begs the question: Why didn't he investigate OO?
Looks more like he didn't actually want OO lynched.
His "push" on what is painted as his strongest scumread on the following day was decidedly weak too. "I'm voting OO, okay?" and things of that amount of impact, nothing actually substantial.

Now, plenty of people pushed OO/Sharrant lynches for relatively weak reasons (me included), but you'd expect more from a guy that has said his strongest scumread is on him.


How I see that situation - snb wants to have OO as top scum read in case OO flips.
snb does not actually want to push town into lynching OO though - his role is very valuable KP. He just tries to look like it.
In case snb flips instead, OO looks better for scum "pushing" him.

A town copandbig in that situation would not have investigated M_Z over OO.
A town cop in the position snb was in (credibility-wise) would have made sure of OO (who, as a high placing player on the draft list, is very likely to have a really strong role for his alignment) instead of some guy he's mildly suspicious of.

Instead, he went for a weak read, giving him a 'safe' towncheck to throw out, while giving him what he really wanted out of it - information about M_Z's role.

snb is a bad cop, not a good cop.

On April 13 2013 22:16 Mocsta wrote:
I really hope Shelvocke isnt RebirthofLegend; but his constant fucking off and doing nothing to help town is reminding of ThePeaShooter majorly.

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At least we can be sure scum only has 1 night KP.
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Keirathi
Day2, I was pushing for a SnB lynch pretty hard.

Austin in particular gave me resistance, and no one else seemed to care about what I was saying. - IIRC that included you.

Night 2 you were pushing for SnB.

Can you walk me through what in particular changed your mind.

On April 14 2013 01:19 Keirathi wrote:

I don't think I ever gave particular resistance. S&B was in one my "we should lynch from this list" posts early in the day. I backed off once he claimed DT, though, because I was just wrong about DT. For some reason, throughout the whole game, I thought DT was just an alignment check (you can kinda see that I did actually think that in my "Roles you should take" post...I had NKVD as slightly more powerful than DT, and had DT as a "town only" pick. NKVD is definitely not more powerful role+alignment check). Scum wouldn't take just an alignment check, so I just moved S&B back in my list.

Then Sharrant brought up the fact that DT was role+alignment, and my opinion quickly changed again. That is an excellent role for scum to pick.

Basically I don't have any reasons for why S&B is town, his role (especially in this situation, with an assassin teammate) makes perfect sense as scum, and BM refused to shoot him. Together, I think he's our last scum.

On April 14 2013 01:20 strongandbig wrote:
Also lynching one of our dts instead of checking them makes no sense in this situation. We have like three claimed detectives, and scum has only got one KP (assuming one of the kills last night was due to bill Murray). We can check everyone left in the game before scum can kill all of us. So if you really think I'm scum, there's absolutely no reason to lynch me instead of having a detective check me.

On April 14 2013 01:30 raynmaster wrote:
Why is SnB defending his actions so hard.

Why does he not think that anyone is scum? Why is his mindset not there?

On April 14 2013 01:24 strongandbig wrote:
Anyway keirathi do you disagree that scum likely only has one KP left and that we should have dts check me instead of lynching me? If you're worried that scum would kill the dt who checks me, we could have both you and vivax check me.

On April 14 2013 01:31 Keirathi wrote:

No, I don't disagree. Hence why I said "Actually that's a good point" Scum almost certainly only have 1 KP left.

My only real problem is that we have no idea how the bonuses work. We know a "Gangster" got a godfather bonus. Does that mean a "Law enforcement" character can't get a godfather bonus? Or a "politician" character?

On April 14 2013 01:52 Mocsta wrote:

The answer you seek is here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403766&currentpage=174#3467

Short answer is "no" Law enfrocement can not receive GF bonus.

On April 14 2013 01:22 Keirathi wrote:

Actually this is kind of a good point.

Hmmm, I'll think about it.

On April 12 2013 11:57 Sharrant wrote:
I'm going to say this again:

Lynch StrongAndBig tomorrow. He showed up tonight not to help town on the lynch, but to see if he was on the chopping block, and when he realized he wasn't he left. He's not trying to figure out alignments because he's the last scum.

Lynch StrongAndBig.