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On April 12 2013 19:39 Restraining Order wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I have no idea why you guys need to make this game so incredibly annoying to read. We're fucking crushing scum, and this is still one of the most shitty threads I've ever read. On April 12 2013 17:27 geript wrote: I don't consider catching a good scum player on D0 playing badly. Would you? Obviously so... by the way, how many scum have you caught this game? Hey, I pushed and/or lynched 3 scum so far, and you still love to call me mafia for no fucking reason. NO REASON AT ALL. You have no fucking place in the world where you can use arguments like this so please kindly shut the fuck up with a cherry on top. Dandel, you need to knock it off. Your argument applies even moreso to me. Yet that didnt stop you casting a vote my direction.
You are a very negative person; and you are making this game very unenjoyable.
Im also confident you are town; just an idiot town.
I think you are town, because, unlike you. who comes in to just shit on people in the thread. I have been reading filters, specifically flipped scum. And VE made essentially one post with effort; a case against you.
I think this was a case genuinely attempting to secure a lynch; thus, for me: you are confirmed town.
If you think Geript is scum, then pressure him instead of telling him to shut up. If you think Geript is town, then stop shitting up the thread, and making people unwilling to contribute further; otherwise we will have to apply for a restraining order.
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On April 12 2013 19:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Alright so how does this sound to everyone. If BM is alive at the day post and no scum has died I will nuke him.
Thoughts? Thats assuming you're alive.
But yes; if you are, I find that acceptable.
JusticeVig must shoot each night. Not sure what BM was smoking when he said that.
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Ah yes, you of course are the second problem this game.
I never seriously called you scum, I just asked for a policy-lynch on you. I thought that was pretty clear. As clear as possible without me outright saying it.
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No it wasnt clear and a policy lynch with only 2 confirmed scum flips on day2 is silly to advocate.
if u want to shit on geript for "I have no idea why you guys need to make this game so incredibly annoying to read."
Why dont you show us how its done, and let us all know who the remaining scum team is.
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On April 12 2013 20:21 Mocsta wrote: No it wasnt clear and a policy lynch with only 2 confirmed scum flips on day2 is silly to advocate.
if u want to shit on geript for "I have no idea why you guys need to make this game so incredibly annoying to read."
Why dont you show us how its done, and let us all know who the remaining scum team is. You fucking fakeclaimed a shot, for no reason.
Vivax still scum, I dont know why he wants a big case written against him though, seems like that would be harder to defend.
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On April 08 2013 11:19 Caller wrote:Alright guys just kidding we kill ObviousOne. I threw the vote on artanis because mafia love bandwagons. Now that we've gotten one, it seems pretty obvious to me that people we should be looking for are on the lower parts of the bandwagon list. But not the last one. Given that, who we we have? + Show Spoiler + Oatsmaster ##Vote: Artanis As a rule I usually try to lynch the 3rd or 4th person on the bandwagon. Since I was the 3rd person on the bandwagon, that leaves Monsieur Oatsmaster as a rather fishy hanger-on to the bandwagon. I already made a case on why I wanted to lynch him, but I don't see him as a threat right now. Still keep dis in mind plox. Meapak_Ziphh Vote: Artanis[XP] Meapak_Ziphh? Who knows. I don't care enough right now to find out. deconduo ##Vote: Shelvocke Null tell. Vivax ##Vote Sno_Man Null tell. Artanis[Xp] ##Vote: Shelvocke I don't really know what Artanis is due to lack of effort, but this follow-on vote to deconduo is pretty scummy. Palmar ##Vote Artanis[Xp] :| Shelvocke ##Vote Artanis[Xp] ah, the typical OMGUS. Normally could be a townie war, except that this is a bandwagon. Very Scummy. Keirathi ##Unvote Hmm. You want to make my life interesting, do you? 8 times out of 10 that I see this, it is a mafia trying to get town cred for not voting for obvious day 1 townie lynch. Vewy Intewesting. ObviousOne ##Vote Artanis[XP] Ah, and we get to the core of the matter. This guy has done nothing but throw ambivalency around. Yet now he's so sure that he will hop-on the bandwagonn. If you were really not sure about this and you were town, you'd be like "HANG ONS GUYS I THINKS HE MIGHT BE OKAY" and then watch helplessly as the bandwagon gains infinite momentum and lynches innocent townie #1. But nope, instead you're like "but wait guys i read his meta and came out with some random conclusions that don't actually mean anything because meta is stupid especially among players that have played this game more than three days." I actually went ahead and read his filter for those games, and I think that your conclusions are bullshit that can easily be construed as whatever you want.. Given that he explicitly stated that as mafia he would be "next time" more involved, but that he simply got lost due to large amount of posts, do you expect any credence that his behaving similar to the previous game is any true indication of his alignment this game? No. You shouldn't. And it's a dumb reason for going on a dumb bandwagon, but it makes you look nice! VOTE THIS GUY. yamato77 ##Vote Artanis I'm fairly satisfied that yamato is town as it stands. I'll still jump on him in a heartbeat but I don't think he's mafia. Restraining Order ##Vote: Artanis Strangely enough, I think RO is town. Are you gonna get a reason for it? Nope. Why the fuck would "scum" caller try to divert the lynch from "assassin" artanis to "cpr medic" ObviousOne. The only benefit of assassin is day kill; CPR doesnt need role claim, so its possibly more valuable.
Caller was town. Full Stop.
BM is certainly not JusticeVig. He still *may* be town.
Yamato is 100% confirmed scum.
Why? Palmar makes sense as emperor; and Rayn was too high up the draft to risk it all on the dreamflower. Now we know BM is not JV; how is Yam a VT. Simple.. he is not.
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On April 12 2013 20:21 Mocsta wrote: No it wasnt clear and a policy lynch with only 2 confirmed scum flips on day2 is silly to advocate.
if u want to shit on geript for "I have no idea why you guys need to make this game so incredibly annoying to read."
Why dont you show us how its done, and let us all know who the remaining scum team is. What?
I have made my case on Vivax. Who is who the remaining scumteam is. (or it's snb)
Which would be abundantly clear if you actually read what I say, instead of pretending that you read it and then spewing random BS about how little value it has.
... I'll go back to not reading your posts. Life was better when I didn't.
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On April 12 2013 20:32 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 20:21 Mocsta wrote: No it wasnt clear and a policy lynch with only 2 confirmed scum flips on day2 is silly to advocate.
if u want to shit on geript for "I have no idea why you guys need to make this game so incredibly annoying to read."
Why dont you show us how its done, and let us all know who the remaining scum team is. You fucking fakeclaimed a shot, for no reason. Vivax still scum, I dont know why he wants a big case written against him though, seems like that would be harder to defend. I haven't re-read his filter; but to be honest, hes not a priority read to me.
I havent found him to be overly disruptive; and I think that scum Vivax likes to be disruptive in a variety of ways.
Thoughts om cameltoe77?
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On April 11 2013 09:58 Restraining Order wrote: Bombing list without the now green check in it:
Mindlessly carpetbomb into the following people: obviousone strongandbig sharrant Mocsta Shelvocke Vivax
Decide who of those you want to lynch, I really have little in the way of strong feelings. Well I want Vivax dead, and Mocsta would be nice just so he finally shuts up. But whatever, I can deal with it if it doesn't happen.
See ya tomorrow.. Is this what u meant be case.
Let me know where to recommend you for a Mafia 2013 Best Bullshit award.
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On April 12 2013 20:43 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 20:32 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 12 2013 20:21 Mocsta wrote: No it wasnt clear and a policy lynch with only 2 confirmed scum flips on day2 is silly to advocate.
if u want to shit on geript for "I have no idea why you guys need to make this game so incredibly annoying to read."
Why dont you show us how its done, and let us all know who the remaining scum team is. You fucking fakeclaimed a shot, for no reason. Vivax still scum, I dont know why he wants a big case written against him though, seems like that would be harder to defend. I haven't re-read his filter; but to be honest, hes not a priority read to me. I havent found him to be overly disruptive; and I think that scum Vivax likes to be disruptive in a variety of ways. Thoughts om cameltoe77? I could see BM being JV now actually, the reason he said that thing about 'I cant even see if caller flipped scum' was because you get your shot refunded if Caller is targeted by other KP which could happen. So Yamato isnt bullshitting. I would like to see BM flipped before yamato honestly, if you think that yamato is scum cause of that.
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Yeah OK Oats.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 10 2013 11:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Day 2 Caller as Andrew Mellon
On April 10 2013 12:25 Bill Murray wrote: I killed Caller btw On April 10 2013 12:30 Bill Murray wrote: Considering mafia killed Palmar, and Deconduo, Caller was scum bro On April 10 2013 12:32 Bill Murray wrote: Why is everyone mad I killed Caller? He was quite likely scum. On April 10 2013 12:33 Bill Murray wrote: We know a maf died last night since the janitor power was used. The other 3 kills will be mafia, in all likelihood, so Caller was scum. On April 10 2013 12:39 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 12:38 Sn0_Man wrote:On April 10 2013 12:33 Bill Murray wrote: We know a maf died last night since the janitor power was used. The other 3 kills will be mafia, in all likelihood, so Caller was scum. The janitor doesn't know in advance who was going to die. This logic is flawed. I know for a fact caller was scum. I will be patient.
As it is possible; he could be someone who writes posts before looking @ PM.
In review of the above: the chain of posts before he talks to Sno "knowing caller was scum" doesnt logically flow to me that he was aware. But then again, he coulda been trying to protect the role/identity.
hmmm; I will be patient and wait the 24hrs.
Still reviewing filters of VE/OO/Artanis for leads.
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Do you think Caller is certain scum though?
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On April 12 2013 20:52 Oatsmaster wrote: So Yamato isnt bullshitting. I would like to see BM flipped before yamato honestly, if you think that yamato is scum cause of that. The main fallacy I see with my BM/Yam logic is.
If BM isn't JV; *if* he is town.. he could say Yam is lying.
So yeah, i guess it does all break down there.
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On April 12 2013 21:04 Mocsta wrote:Yeah OK Oats. + Show Spoiler +On April 10 2013 11:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Day 2 Caller as Andrew Mellon
On April 10 2013 12:25 Bill Murray wrote: I killed Caller btw On April 10 2013 12:30 Bill Murray wrote: Considering mafia killed Palmar, and Deconduo, Caller was scum bro On April 10 2013 12:32 Bill Murray wrote: Why is everyone mad I killed Caller? He was quite likely scum. On April 10 2013 12:33 Bill Murray wrote: We know a maf died last night since the janitor power was used. The other 3 kills will be mafia, in all likelihood, so Caller was scum. On April 10 2013 12:39 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 12:38 Sn0_Man wrote:On April 10 2013 12:33 Bill Murray wrote: We know a maf died last night since the janitor power was used. The other 3 kills will be mafia, in all likelihood, so Caller was scum. The janitor doesn't know in advance who was going to die. This logic is flawed. I know for a fact caller was scum. I will be patient. As it is possible; he could be someone who writes posts before looking @ PM. In review of the above: the chain of posts before he talks to Sno "knowing caller was scum" doesnt logically flow to me that he was aware. But then again, he coulda been trying to protect the role/identity. hmmm; I will be patient and wait the 24hrs. Still reviewing filters of VE/OO/Artanis for leads.
Huh? I dont think Caller is scum but I dont see what this has to do with his claim.
BM is BM, who knows what he does.
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I highly doubt I'll die tonight given the number of investigative roles that scum have to deal with. What about this for a general plan tomorrow, we have a gun invented and then we just kill both yamato and bm if the night flips don't shed any more light on the situation. If for some weird reason we haven't finished the scum off by then we can still have a lynch.
Given caller's reads I have a really hard time seeing him as scum.
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Oats
Can you u give me a quick run down of points that stick out to u with Vivax?
Artanis makes some weird reasons for Vivax being town in his "final list" post. Its a lot more justified town read, than what he did for deconduo (who im thinking is town currently). So its raising an alarm bell.
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On April 12 2013 21:30 Mocsta wrote: Oats
Can you u give me a quick run down of points that stick out to u with Vivax?
Artanis makes some weird reasons for Vivax being town in his "final list" post. Its a lot more justified town read, than what he did for deconduo (who im thinking is town currently). So its raising an alarm bell.
Well first he proposes a plan that doesnt actually help town all that much and he shits on me for criticizing it. Also he says he agrees with Rayn's list of townie dudes but in the end, Rayn is the only dude in both groups. Also n1 isnt him. Why not? WHO KNOWS.
He then does NOTHING during the drafting phase, post right after the drafting list is released is
On April 05 2013 20:07 Vivax wrote: Not really, I think the current game is a mess and a pain to read, and the game could have been much better if people followed the d1 plan. I'll just let the big boys fix that while swimming in this ocean of mental excrements.Not feeling motivated to do much currently. I might take a look at the numbers and try to riddle which people were "too lucky to be town", and correlate it to their attitudes towards each other.
@ mocsta
Didn't agree with all of rayn's list, sharrant for example. But yamato, you and geript were good calls imo. And I don't think scum would play like rayn did, it's that simple.
Yeah which is a really lazy attitude to have and doesnt fit with town Vivax's "I AM RIGHT AND YOU ARE ALL WRONG MENTALITY.
I dont see that at all in this game.
Basically Vivax having no impact is scum vivax.
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Yeah. im actually tending to agree
I have reviewed in full VE + Artanis filter.
Artanis has ~4 posts giving Vivax town reads for "meta" reasons. People keep asking him to flesh it out; but he just maintains it "meta"
The problem is: everyone else he describes as town (e.g. Keirathi) he starts by saying he thinks they are town, but then adds in something suspicious about them. With Vivax; he is a shining beacon of towniness with zero flaws.
The parity cop claim doesnt help either.
I can support a Vivax death tomorrow/tonight.
BM, would you do us the honors and fire away at Vivax?
Vivax should be nuked//lynched//shot tomorrow.
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Yes I'm scum who started to hardbus OO during N1, now that you didn't lynch me to expect a check it's time to shoot me
clap clap clap
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