2. Marv isnt getting lynched day 1
Of course he is if we find out he is mafia. And even if this was true that's not a reason to give him a free pass to do anything he wants without questioning him until D2.
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2. Marv isnt getting lynched day 1 Of course he is if we find out he is mafia. And even if this was true that's not a reason to give him a free pass to do anything he wants without questioning him until D2. | ||
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On March 26 2013 21:46 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On March 26 2013 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have one problem with marv. He pressure voted me early on in the game. When i asked his what's up with the ninja vote, he posted this: On March 26 2013 08:11 marvellosity wrote: On March 26 2013 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: What's with the ninja vote marv? Just curious how you'd react given you totally overreacted to prplhz. I can join Hapa on his policy lynch though, so you're in luck ^^ ##Unvote ##Vote: ObviousOne If he really thought i overreacted to prplhz why wouldn't he pressure me more? Was the "what's up with the ninja vote" somekinda secret townie answer i gave? If i was marv and i thought someone overreacted to something and i was already pressuring him, i would definitely keep the pressure on to try to find more clues about their alignment. Here he just completely drops the issue and changes his vote to a policy target (which i do not see serving any purpose in finding mafia). But you arent marv. Is your point is meta read? Or just based on what you would think you would do? Also policy lynches are useful in the fact that OO is more likely to start playing as both alignments instead of being useless. No, my point is not a meta read. My point is i don't find how it makes sense from town PoV to do what marv did. How is it useful to drop a vote on someone who will start contributing either way as the game goes on? | ||
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I can't understand why people think it's not okay to question certain players because they apparently are some fucking mafia gods who can't be lynched on D1, but it's totally okay to drop "policy votes" on players you find to be less competant. Everyone has a same chance of being mafia based on odds itself and noone is above being questioned or being called out on D1. Simple. | ||
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On March 26 2013 21:55 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On March 26 2013 21:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: On March 26 2013 21:46 Oatsmaster wrote: On March 26 2013 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have one problem with marv. He pressure voted me early on in the game. When i asked his what's up with the ninja vote, he posted this: On March 26 2013 08:11 marvellosity wrote: On March 26 2013 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: What's with the ninja vote marv? Just curious how you'd react given you totally overreacted to prplhz. I can join Hapa on his policy lynch though, so you're in luck ^^ ##Unvote ##Vote: ObviousOne If he really thought i overreacted to prplhz why wouldn't he pressure me more? Was the "what's up with the ninja vote" somekinda secret townie answer i gave? If i was marv and i thought someone overreacted to something and i was already pressuring him, i would definitely keep the pressure on to try to find more clues about their alignment. Here he just completely drops the issue and changes his vote to a policy target (which i do not see serving any purpose in finding mafia). But you arent marv. Is your point is meta read? Or just based on what you would think you would do? Also policy lynches are useful in the fact that OO is more likely to start playing as both alignments instead of being useless. No, my point is not a meta read. My point is i don't find how it makes sense from town PoV to do what marv did. How is it useful to drop a vote on someone who will start contributing either way as the game goes on? Isnt that what you are doing with marv? Other than the fact that your vote isnt on him which is a moot point. I want him to explain himself. My vote is on OO at the moment because i think he is scum, more than marv. It's pretty simple. It's just that i am not going to ignore everyone else just because i'm voting for someone. | ||
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On March 26 2013 21:58 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On March 26 2013 21:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes i propose marv starts playing and exlaining his actions. I can't understand why people think it's not okay to question certain players because they apparently are some fucking mafia gods who can't be lynched on D1, but it's totally okay to drop "policy votes" on players you find to be less competant. Everyone has a same chance of being mafia based on odds itself and noone is above being questioned or being called out on D1. Simple. Mainly cause these 'mafia gods' as you called it, dont do shit that leads to them being policy voted? And when they do, they get policy voted, dont worry. Most of the time, its because its not that difficult to figure out their alignment when they start to post more. With random dudes, its harder because you arent as familiar with their playstyles. It's just that from what i have understood marv is a really good player as scum as well. It becomes even easier for him to lead the town to destruction (if he is mafia) if he gets to do stuff he wants to and doesn't have to worry about people's concerns about him. | ||
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On March 26 2013 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have one problem with marv. He pressure voted me early on in the game. When i asked his what's up with the ninja vote, he posted this: Show nested quote + On March 26 2013 08:11 marvellosity wrote: On March 26 2013 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: What's with the ninja vote marv? Just curious how you'd react given you totally overreacted to prplhz. I can join Hapa on his policy lynch though, so you're in luck ^^ ##Unvote ##Vote: ObviousOne If he really thought i overreacted to prplhz why wouldn't he pressure me more? Was the "what's up with the ninja vote" somekinda secret townie answer i gave? If i was marv and i thought someone overreacted to something and i was already pressuring him, i would definitely keep the pressure on to try to find more clues about their alignment. Here he just completely drops the issue and changes his vote to a policy target (which i do not see serving any purpose in finding mafia). | ||
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On March 26 2013 23:25 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On March 26 2013 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: On top of him being stupid there is a strange contradiction in his behaviour towards s&b and smurf. Like how I want to lynch SnB for a bad case and not smurf? deal with it. Do you have town reads on both of them? If not, then why arent you asking me what is differerent instead of insinuating that I am scum. No, i have a scum read on Smurf. Leaning town on s&b. | ||
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On March 26 2013 23:34 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On March 26 2013 23:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: On March 26 2013 23:25 Oatsmaster wrote: On March 26 2013 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: On top of him being stupid there is a strange contradiction in his behaviour towards s&b and smurf. Like how I want to lynch SnB for a bad case and not smurf? deal with it. Do you have town reads on both of them? If not, then why arent you asking me what is differerent instead of insinuating that I am scum. No, i have a scum read on Smurf. Leaning town on s&b. Ill tell what is different for me in a short bit. But what makes SnB different from smurf for you? S&B's case was just wrong. Smurf is leaving out stuff that does not speak in favor of his case. Stufff that he should have pbviously checked. | ||
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On March 27 2013 01:13 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On March 27 2013 01:11 cDgCorazon wrote: On March 27 2013 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holy crap Corazon is failing hard to even read my filter. I read your filter and all you've done is attack 6 people, all of which have been under pressure from others. I read your filter bro. Get some better defense. The fact is that rayn has brought new things to the table too; his analysis/vote of OO's second post, or Oats' apparent contradiction with the prplhz/Dandel cases - and indeed something came of this. Being active, suspicious of many people, and aggressively questioning are not what I think of as mafia characteristics. Besides this i havn't attacked people. I questioned marv and Keirathi. Keirathi told me why i was wrong in prplhz-defending-thingy, i agreed i was wrong and let it go. I questioned marv because i wanted him to do stuff. I agree with his reads/observations when he presented them and it makes me think he is town for now. He still didn't answer my question about the start of the game but because everyone seems to think it's irrelevant it probably is and i'm not going to sidetrack the discussion by screaming about it over and over again. Try again Cora. | ||
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He's making a whole bunch of bs reads and only scratching the surface with the arguments that he has made. It's all smoke and mirrors to look like he is scumhunting when in fact he is only creating chaos. What exactly is "only scratching the surface" in my scumreads on OO/Oats/Smurf? | ||
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On March 27 2013 01:22 cDgCorazon wrote: You haven't attacked anyone? Really? + Show Spoiler + On March 26 2013 07:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'll throw the first stone: ##Vote: prplhz for not following his own advice! On March 26 2013 08:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: A perfectly valid case. Says we need to not spam and has three posts in the first four. Are you his scumbuddy Cora? On March 26 2013 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: What's with the ninja vote marv? On March 26 2013 10:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: On top of that marv & Keir seem to be quite defensive about prplhz. Why not let the guy answer himself? On March 26 2013 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have one problem with marv. He pressure voted me early on in the game. When i asked his what's up with the ninja vote, he posted this: Show nested quote + On March 26 2013 08:11 marvellosity wrote: On March 26 2013 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: What's with the ninja vote marv? Just curious how you'd react given you totally overreacted to prplhz. I can join Hapa on his policy lynch though, so you're in luck ^^ ##Unvote ##Vote: ObviousOne If he really thought i overreacted to prplhz why wouldn't he pressure me more? Was the "what's up with the ninja vote" somekinda secret townie answer i gave? If i was marv and i thought someone overreacted to something and i was already pressuring him, i would definitely keep the pressure on to try to find more clues about their alignment. Here he just completely drops the issue and changes his vote to a policy target (which i do not see serving any purpose in finding mafia). On March 26 2013 23:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am starting to have an urge to lynch Oats. On March 26 2013 23:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: And i personally think Smurf's case is totally more likely to be made by a mafioso than S&B's. Really? What I see here is lots of accusations but nothing behind them (although the Marv suspicion was decent, I'll admit that). If you seriously believe the first two quotes are "attacking" you should consider taking a look how good you are at playing mafia. The third one is a simple question. Everything else i have explained. | ||
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On March 27 2013 01:47 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On March 27 2013 01:46 Dandel Ion wrote: On March 27 2013 01:43 Dandel Ion wrote: On March 27 2013 01:31 strongandbig wrote: There needs to be more pressure on dandel ion. Keeping the thread clear, readable, and coherent (AKA "not spamming") has been a major topic of discussion. It has reverberated in offhand comments, in the way players have said they are interacting with the game, and explicitly in pressure put on various players. The only player to completely ignore this and keep to his "spammy meta" has been dandel. At this point, for him not to notice the difference between how he is interacting with the thread and how everyone else is would have to take a conscious effort. The scum motivation for this is obvious. Long, unreadable, spammy threads hurt the town. Dandel is choosing to play in a way that hurts town and helps scum. That's not okay. Hey, I totally didn't post half the posts I originally wanted to post/typed out. I'm trying really hard over here. Go find scum. Your post is completely useless, and the hypocricy hurts my brain. I would also like to add that I tend to get mislynched if I don't spam, so I'm actually pro-town in doing it. And my filter is barely 3 pages. I mean, that's so little. I really don't get your problem. I would like to add that quoting your own posts makes it seem like you are talking to yourself, and that confuses me... Lotta stuff has been thrown around but who is the n1 candidate people want to lynch? ANYBODY? OO, you come close as second. | ||
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