In addition, his play is objectively very scummy and lynchable. I'll make the rounds through his other games tomorrow to be super certain, but I'm not expecting to find anything to help his cause.
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In addition, his play is objectively very scummy and lynchable. I'll make the rounds through his other games tomorrow to be super certain, but I'm not expecting to find anything to help his cause. | ||
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On March 27 2013 14:32 InsertSmurfHere wrote: Look at day 1 of Nomination. I know you've read that game. Yeah, he did a fuckton more on Day 1 in Nomination Mini. Whats your point? | ||
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On March 27 2013 14:47 InsertSmurfHere wrote: If you think low activity is alignment indicative out of prplhz, you're wrong. While it's true that he's done little this game, he isn't acting trollish or distant with town when he is posting, as he does normally when he's mafia. He posts little and rarely as both alignments. Have you read prplzh filter? Go and read it, then get back to me and tell me he's not "distant." I've heard of a ton of meta arguments, but this is the most retarded one. Prplzh has posted next to nothing, has soft-pushed half the thread, hasn't made a single original contribution, and somehow you arrive at the fact that he's not scum. | ||
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On March 27 2013 14:47 InsertSmurfHere wrote: If you think low activity is alignment indicative out of prplhz, you're wrong. While it's true that he's done little this game, he isn't acting trollish or distant with town when he is posting, as he does normally when he's mafia. He posts little and rarely as both alignments. Ok there is no way you actually read his filter. According to you, he acts "trollish" and is "distant." Describe to me how he's not distant based on his sparse posting so far? Trollish... oh wait: On March 26 2013 07:39 prplhz wrote: Yo ho ho lets play some mafia shall we? Just a little reminder to some people and all people, something that was brought up in the latest podcast and that I agree with: it's a bad idea to have a 150 page thread after day1. Especially for a guy like me who probably doesn't even have 3rd grade reading level, it's really exhausting and it burns me out. So lets consolidate and not screw around too much. Yay! On March 26 2013 07:44 prplhz wrote: Remember, on TL Mafia if you don't post within the first hour of the game then you're scum. What gives Mr.Smurf? | ||
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This is his first post this game. What is he doing here? Caring about town, and actually giving out reads. Town reads, but reads nonetheless, and some insight into how he got them. This is a stark difference from the trolly attitude he got caught with in LIX. This post, he keeps with his pro-town theme and gives two more reads. He says I could be lynched, that he agrees with Sloosh's case. Again, he is thinking about who he wants to lynch, why he wants to lynch them, and being townie about it. The dude is green. You call prplzh town in Nomination because he's being useful to town and actually giving out reads. Where the fuck are his reads this game?!?!?! How the fuck is he being useful to town?!??! Post them for me. This is the most non-sensical meta comparison I've seen on TL Mafia. | ||
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On March 27 2013 05:18 prplhz wrote: @Keirathi @strongandbig I voted Grackaroni for all the reasons presented by Palmar, Hapahauli and Keirathi. I liked them all. He's also the best lynch. I haven't been around much so far which is the explanation for why I didn't post a lot. Just got up to date on the thread. My Grackaroni vote was around page 16 and nothing has changed my mind since that. This is the only thing in his filter that constitutes a read. And it's a fucking sheep-vote on Grack. | ||
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On March 27 2013 15:11 InsertSmurfHere wrote: Hapa, you scum bro? Like, I just posted one of his fucking reads. Holy balls. No you didn't. Post it again, because if you're honestly comparing his posting this game to his reads from Nomination mini, you're either blind, drunk, or scum. | ||
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On March 27 2013 15:15 InsertSmurfHere wrote: No, I'm contrasting it with his SCUM PLAY from LIX. You know, that thing that was analysed in the post you quoted? Did you even look at his filter from that game? Have you read Marv's meta case on scum prplhz? If not, you're just attacking him on a weak basis. I know town prplhz to have low activity. WHERE ARE PRPLZH'S READS? SHOW THEM TO ME. | ||
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Nomination Prplzh: Clear read on JayBrundage. Well explained, well focused. On February 07 2013 22:32 prplhz wrote: Something rubs me the wrong way about jaybrundage and his case on Djodref. No one else really reacted strongly to Djodref's silly random vote because everybody knew what it was: some sort of scheme to draw out scum. Pretty rediculous but at least he doing something. jaybrundage also acknowledges this himself here but he still uses it as a reason to vote Djodref. This gives him a place to put his vote and even though he's since gradually recanted this (like here), he hasn't unvoted. It seems like he is trying to keep the Djodref door open while not pushing it and not wanting to actually push anything else. It doesn't seem like a townie thinking "fuck yea, i nailed this cracker and it's so obvious! now i just have to get everybody else to listen to me!", more like "cool, i can just put my vote on him and then chill". How do you guys feel about jaybrundage? Clear, focused, rationalized desire not to lynch Palmar: On February 07 2013 20:52 prplhz wrote: I'm stuck at page 20 but I just want to say that lynching Palmar is silly right now. First of all he could just be busy and in a trolly mood and once he snaps out of it he could be really useful to us. Second of all, he promised us something concrete very soon: the day 2 plan to ravage scum. Come day 2 and he doesn't have anything then he's lying and then we just lynch him, ezpz. Clear, focused, rationalized reason not to vote JieXian: On February 07 2013 23:13 prplhz wrote: I agree with Oatsmaster that JieXian doesn't look scum so I don't want to vote for him. He looks like a guy who isn't around and his activity so far doesn't spell out scum to me. @Mocsta Could you please link the post you're talking about instead of saying "Yea, but what about that jaybrundage post, huh?" because I literally haven't a clue what you're talking about. I'm also going to have a really hard time arguing with someone who says that he doesn't think someone else is scum because they were scum last game. That's unsound in all ways imaginable. Rockband Prplzh Clear, focused reads on 4 players. All early in Day 1: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=6#113 Just read the rest of his filter. It's so goddamn obvious how clear his reads are and what he's thinking. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250&user=126438 Prplhz's THIS GAME You say he's making "READS", when in fact they're not. They're just random non-committal statements. Sheep vote with no original analysis. On March 27 2013 05:18 prplhz wrote: @Keirathi @strongandbig I voted Grackaroni for all the reasons presented by Palmar, Hapahauli and Keirathi. I liked them all. He's also the best lynch. I haven't been around much so far which is the explanation for why I didn't post a lot. Just got up to date on the thread. My Grackaroni vote was around page 16 and nothing has changed my mind since that. Non-committal "read" on Rayn. "That's a plus for now" isn't a goddamn read. COMPARE HIS RATIONAL HERE TO HIS TOWN GAMES FOR GOD SAKES On March 27 2013 05:31 prplhz wrote: @strongandbig I didn't really follow the raynpelikoneet debacles because he's posting a lot and picking fights with everybody and he's grandmother and that's a plus for now. Hey guess what? I have no idea what he thinks of Acro! He's criticizing the town read on him, and NOT IMPLYING THAT ACRO IS SCUM EVER. WHERE IS HIS GODDAMN RATIONALE?! On March 27 2013 11:19 prplhz wrote: Some people do that when they get frustrated. I think he's frustrated and that's why he's doing it. @Palmar Why is Acrofales town? On March 27 2013 11:29 prplhz wrote: If anybody else knows why Acrofales is town I'm also interested in their answers. IF YOU THINK POKING RANDOM PLAYERS IS TOWNIE THEN I GIVE UP. On March 27 2013 05:33 prplhz wrote: ... I thought it was really weird that Nisani201 thought that Palmar's case on Grackaroni was bullshit yet he didn't seem to think that Palmar was scum. Palmar is a guy who you can rely on having good reads for good reason but Nisani201 just dismissed the read without trying at all to put any pressure on Palmar and I found that weird so I poked him. | ||
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I can say many things about town-prplhz's meta, but it's NOT objectively scummy. He tries to contribute, displays a clear attatchment to the thread, and is pretty clear about his reads. This game is NOT that. Prplhz's play is extremely objectively scummy. He soft-pushes multiple people for vauge/unstated reasons and has adopted a strategy of "poking" other players with short questions rather than contributing any analysis. | ||
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Meta is best used to describe broad, conceptual, and glaring differences in someone's play. When you start getting into specificity, meta gets woefully inaccurate because of the natural deviations and differences in how players post in different games and circumstances. In this case, prplhz is playing an objectively scummy game, and his overarching meta of being "detatched" from the thread as scum holds very true. | ||
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On March 27 2013 22:10 prplhz wrote: I wish I had been around for the case on me but then again there's not really much I can do other than say that I'm not scum. Maybe I didn't contribute a lot so far but D1 was busy for me and I didn't post for first 25 pages. The case on me is full of meta and it's silly to make someone argue about his own meta so maybe it was good that InsertSmurfHere was around to do that. He has been perfectly right in his interpretation of my posts as well. I don't know why Hapahauli is so angry. I'm not really sure who to vote for right now. No one else strike me in the same way as as Grackaroni so I'm going to reread some stuff. My original case has very little to do with meta (Yamato brought that up in your defense, but I obviously disagree with the comparison). The issue I have is your complete lack of contributions thusfar, and you spreading suspicion on multiple players in non-committal ways (soft-pushing). This, combined with your general lack of contribution this game makes you pretty darn scummy. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256¤tpage=36#720 Basically as I outlined here, you repeatedly spread suspicion on players without drawing any conclusion or analysis. On Acro... On March 27 2013 11:29 prplhz wrote: If anybody else knows why Acrofales is town I'm also interested in their answers. On Sinani... On March 27 2013 06:22 prplhz wrote: @Nisani201 How do you feel about that sinani206 guy? And on InsertSmurfHere/Nisani... On March 27 2013 05:09 prplhz wrote: @sinani206 Why haven't you been playing mafia for ages and what made you suddenly come back to this game? @Acrofales What you think about Palmar? What did Nisani201 say to make you think that he is scum? Just a line or two, I'm not a big fan of huge posts. And yes, I did read your filter so please bear with me if there was something I didn't understand and say it one more time @InsertSmurfHere That can't be true unless you're like ... no, that can't be true. Not only are your suspicions devoid of analysis, but you never follow up on them. You "poke" a player with a question, incite suspicion, and then that's the end of the issue. This is textbook scum-behavior really. | ||
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On March 28 2013 02:36 Oatsmaster wrote: Wait. Im confused. Who wants to lynch Palmar? No one. Huh.. We are not lynching Palmar today. | ||
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