RED Team's Prize - Page 84

On March 27 2013 22:06 marvellosity wrote:
My feelings towards the shot align with Acro's, I don't get it from any perspective, except 3p which we don't have :x

Although my filtering last night got interrupted by somewhat too much wine, I also agree with Acro/sinani on Nisani. I agree with what Acro said above about the 'timeliness' of his prplhz read. The kicker for me is this "scumbait" thing about Smurf/Dandel. I've read that case a few times and it simply doesn't come across like that at all. It doesn't seem like a natural mindset for a townie to take. It implies that Nisani actually already *knows* Smurf is town, and therefore his 'atrocious' case must be scumbait, rather than the more natural townie suspicion of maliciousness or simply bad play. Especially given at the time we had s&b's prplhz case, which looked much more scumbait-y.

##Vote: Nisani101

On March 28 2013 00:18 marvellosity wrote:


So how about that Nisani meta, prplhz?

Nisani looks worse after the Grack flip because he was soft-defending Grack from the start of the game. He called the case bad and said Grack hadn't done anything scummy. This ties in to the inherent knowledge of alignments argument that I made regarding his "scumbait" line on Smurf.

On March 28 2013 01:42 marvellosity wrote:


I still don't want to lynch OO today. As this is a majority lynch we need to start consolidating on targets. The lynch should be between Smurf and Nisani, I think.

On March 28 2013 04:09 marvellosity wrote:


The fact that sinani is pushing someone I think is mafia.

Nisani's early push on Acro was nonsense as elaborated on by Acro himself.

On March 28 2013 06:23 marvellosity wrote:
I'm going to go back to Nisani. He hasn't had a legitimate read all game, he went on to Acro and straight off again, he sheeped on to prplhz with no explanation and off again, and then on to Kei for no apparent reason as well. Plus the scumbait thing still gets to me.

##Vote: Nisani201

On March 28 2013 04:12 marvellosity wrote:
Beeteedubs, Keirathi is probably mafia.

On March 28 2013 04:33 marvellosity wrote:
Keirathi

I've been reasonably suspicious of his play all game. Quite uninvolved. Also a lot of posts containing :o. I know that's a pretty silly thing but I find it quite off. I also found his case on Grackeroni over-justified, and over-explained. Palmar and Hapa had already said all there was to say about Grackeroni, and yet Keirathi feels the need to make a full-fledged case on him. These are general reasons I find Keirathi suspicious.

I didn't feel like these were enough to really push him, but I'm bringing it up now because of the prplhz stuff. I would note that Hapa basically originated the push on prplhz, and then Keirathi came into the thread to egg him on and provide 'meta' support. Now, at the time I didn't particularly feel the push on prplhz was unreasonable. I was pretty null on prplhz so I could understand the push, to an extent.

Anyway, prplhz has been in the thread today making quite active conversation, talking about reads, being open and honest. I had in my notes on Hapa and Keirathi to make sure I checked how they responded to this. Hapa responded to it in the way I'd expect a townie to respond to it, like so:






Here's how Keirathi responded to it:



He comes in to take a pointless jab at Palmar, and do nothing else of note. No comment on prplhz. For someone who prides themselves at being good at meta, I find it quite hard to believe that a town-Keirathi wouldn't have had things to say about prplhz's contributions, which to me mark him as a pretty bad lynch today.

The interesting thing is that if Keirathi really felt strongly about prplhz, he could have started the push on him earlier. Keirathi actually argues quite a lot with Nisani, and finds him either wrong or scummy over many posts, and yet in the end chooses to pursue prplhz under Hapa's protection. If you read page 2 of Kei's filter, in the leadup to Kei pushing prplhz, he makes one jab at prplhz and yet repeated jabs at Nisani.

Basically Keirathi has rode other people's cases, Grack and prplhz, overexplaining his Grack case, and railing on Smurf about prplhz's meta, but has since failed to come back and reevaluate his read; or at least he did come back to have a jab at Palmar and do nothing else of importance.

I would lynch Keirathi today if I could get a majority behind it.

On March 28 2013 04:40 marvellosity wrote:
By another post attacking me, I meant another post not related to prplhz.

I don't believe that you "hadn't got around to it" when your first post today was hours ago now.

On March 28 2013 04:52 marvellosity wrote:


Because your first priority as a townie should be finding out / expanding upon your read.

I might even accept that the first time you came into the thread to have a jab at Palmar you didn't read the thread yet and went to have lunch or whatever. However your 2nd post, after you did all this, was having a jab at me. You didn't mention prplhz at all there, and you should have. You did respond to Hapa about sinani for some reason though.

On March 28 2013 05:12 marvellosity wrote:


Because I think Kei is a better lynch, dopeydrawers

On March 28 2013 06:12 marvellosity wrote:
Interesting. Ok

##Unvote

Corazon, you need to read the thread.

On March 28 2013 22:52 marvellosity wrote:


Fair dinkum, I would say that I'm pretty glad I did what I did with the Kei case in hindsight; in my opinion there's a lot of information to be gained from the Kei push.

Certainly I think the town is in a better position for having that wagon come and go late on Day 1. Obviously I'm not claiming this absolves me or anything, but the very analysis you just made on voting was made possible by my Keir push.