EPTOn March 29 2013 07:20 prplhz wrote:
How much KP does scum have?
How much KP does scum have?
Why are you worried about that?
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Corazon
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Why are you worried about that? | ||
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strongandbig
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prplhz
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On March 29 2013 07:23 strongandbig wrote: at least 2 What do you base this on? | ||
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Keirathi
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On March 29 2013 07:18 ObviousOne wrote: Okay, I was mostly asking because he pretty much hard defended me as town D1 and he has had absolutely zero reason to do that in this game when I was clearly a person of interest. Do you think a scum Marv would do that, and why? Scum marv would definitely do that. Go read this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16497364 Scum marv hard defended town kush, then VE came in with a red check on kush. I explained why I thought that kush was still probably town and just framed. Marv commented to me in irc that that analysis was one of the few ever on TL that actually made him think about how he plays scum. | ||
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Hapahauli
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On March 29 2013 07:19 sinani206 wrote: Also, I'd like to bring up the topic of prplhz. It just seems like he's been flying under the radar and I'm not entirely sure yet, but I'd like to hear something from him. I'm interested in hearing more of your conclusions. Is there anyone you have a scum-read on right now? You're seemingly suspicious of prplhz, but nothing about your read is concrete or even committal. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Corazon
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I want to see some reads, whether you want to show them or not. | ||
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Palmar
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ObviousOne
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On March 29 2013 07:26 Keirathi wrote: Scum marv would definitely do that. Go read this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16497364 Scum marv hard defended town kush, then VE came in with a red check on kush. I explained why I thought that kush was still probably town and just framed. Marv commented to me in irc that that analysis was one of the few ever on TL that actually made him think about how he plays scum. That's pretty clever. Actually thinking about how that situation applies to me, it's a good bet to hedge that I'll survive to end-game if I don't get lynched D1. Look at my town record: 1st newbie game: lynched d1 as town 2nd newbie game: NK night 4 3rd newbie game: win at endgame 4th normal game: lynched d1 as town (marv was in on that one and later admitted he did it for the lulz) 6th normal game: win at endgame (d2 in this case) 7th normal game: died by 3p N4 A scum Marv would know if I'm town. It's a crazy and unpredictable move unless someone was aware of it and brought it up in the thread. Do you think he's using the same trick twice? | ||
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ObviousOne
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On March 29 2013 07:32 Palmar wrote: looks like I got shot. GG! GG Palmar <3 | ||
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Keirathi
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On March 29 2013 07:34 ObviousOne wrote: That's pretty clever. Actually thinking about how that situation applies to me, it's a good bet to hedge that I'll survive to end-game if I don't get lynched D1. Look at my town record: 1st newbie game: lynched d1 as town 2nd newbie game: NK night 4 3rd newbie game: win at endgame 4th normal game: lynched d1 as town (marv was in on that one and later admitted he did it for the lulz) 6th normal game: win at endgame (d2 in this case) 7th normal game: died by 3p N4 A scum Marv would know if I'm town. It's a crazy and unpredictable move unless someone was aware of it and brought it up in the thread. Do you think he's using the same trick twice? It's irrelevant because I don't know if you are town or not. | ||
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ObviousOne
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On March 29 2013 07:39 Keirathi wrote: It's irrelevant because I don't know if you are town or not. That's fair. | ||
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Keirathi
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I don't see what makes him the best second target for the day at all. | ||
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strongandbig
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ObviousOne
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On March 29 2013 07:49 strongandbig wrote: Nah we should be lunching obviousone I am delicious | ||
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Keirathi
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On March 29 2013 07:49 strongandbig wrote: Nah we should be lunching obviousone I disagree completely. | ||
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ObviousOne
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On March 29 2013 07:45 Keirathi wrote: Anyways, someone walk me through why Sinani is so scummy that he should bet he lynch today. I'm just not seeing it. Like I said in my post, I have him pretty firmly in the null category. Biggest thing to me is that he seems extra concerned about his survival, but I don't think that is strictly 100% a mafia trait, it's just more likely to be mafia than town. I don't see what makes him the best second target for the day at all. iPod posting so I'm not quoting my reads from a little while ago but we can talk about the points regarding Sinani if you wish. | ||
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Acrofales
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On March 29 2013 07:34 ObviousOne wrote: That's pretty clever. Actually thinking about how that situation applies to me, it's a good bet to hedge that I'll survive to end-game if I don't get lynched D1. Look at my town record: 1st newbie game: lynched d1 as town 2nd newbie game: NK night 4 3rd newbie game: win at endgame 4th normal game: lynched d1 as town (marv was in on that one and later admitted he did it for the lulz) 6th normal game: win at endgame (d2 in this case) 7th normal game: died by 3p N4 A scum Marv would know if I'm town. It's a crazy and unpredictable move unless someone was aware of it and brought it up in the thread. Do you think he's using the same trick twice? Firstly, it's not crazy and unpredictable. It happens all the time that a scummer decides to be the champion of the lynchbait. The knight in shining armor who proves his reads are good and he can be sheeped for the rest of the game because look how he knew ScrubX was town. Secondly, I am far from sure you're town, so if it's scum-Marv, he could just be defending his scumbuddy. In closing, Marv's whole OO is town, just look at <META>, is still one of the funkier plays this game and while I've backed off calling Marv sure scum over it, I don't see any conceivable way you can call it townie. | ||
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Keirathi
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On March 29 2013 07:53 ObviousOne wrote: iPod posting so I'm not quoting my reads from a little while ago but we can talk about the points regarding Sinani if you wish. I read your reasons but....I dunno, they don't really feel like such black-and-white-SLAMDUNK-we-got-scum reasons. Why him over Smurf/marv/s&b? | ||
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Acrofales
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On March 29 2013 07:45 Keirathi wrote: Anyways, someone walk me through why Sinani is so scummy that he should bet he lynch today. I'm just not seeing it. Like I said in my post, I have him pretty firmly in the null category. Biggest thing to me is that he seems extra concerned about his survival, but I don't think that is strictly 100% a mafia trait, it's just more likely to be mafia than town. I don't see what makes him the best second target for the day at all. On March 29 2013 06:56 Acrofales wrote: I have time for one more filter and picked Sinani. I actually think there's a good chance he's scum. 1. He was cagey on the OO claim. He didn't just have an opinion, but was very careful, as if he didn't want to stick his neck out. 2. No reads. He has given his opinion of Nisani. Other than that? Nothing. I don't even know what he thought of OO with the lack of a role PM. A minor blurb about prplhz. I had a quick look at Sinani's town meta (think I only ever played with him as scum) and he seems more useful. I agree that he is more active than his usual scumgame, but a 2 page filter is not exactly the paragon of an active townie. Sinani, who do you want to lynch, why? Why have you not said anything at all about anybody except Nisani. As an added bonus, Nisani thought he was scum at the end, and they have a long history together. It might have been an OMGUS and I have to save myself, but he did give a scumread on Sinani. | ||
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