EPTBasically you are tunneling me and Kei is scum "by proxy". It's not hard to see what you're doing here.
You still haven't given any reason that Kei is scum. I'd love to hear an actual one.
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
Basically you are tunneling me and Kei is scum "by proxy". It's not hard to see what you're doing here. You still haven't given any reason that Kei is scum. I'd love to hear an actual one. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On March 29 2013 04:15 InsertSmurfHere wrote: Now that I've had more time to interact with you while Hapa isn't arguing with me, you are townier, which is what I've said before. Aside from your sheeping of hapa in that instance, the only other reason I currently suspect you is because of how Corazon has been playing, but that is currently not worth going after. This isn't about NOW. You never mentioned me in all of day 1. But suddenly I was scum because I was "sheeping hapa". You're literally ignoring everything in this game about my play aside for 2 points: that I was "sheeping hapa" and that I claimed mason with Cora. | ||
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InsertSmurfHere
288 Posts
On March 29 2013 04:18 cDgCorazon wrote: Yamato you are digging such a hole for yourself here. Basically you are tunneling me and Kei is scum "by proxy". It's not hard to see what you're doing here. You still haven't given any reason that Kei is scum. I'd love to hear an actual one. I'm not "tunneling you" I've done anything but "tunnel" you I'm trying my best NOT to "tunnel" you, because I have enough reason to doubt myself. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
So basically I'm right. You are tunneling me. | ||
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InsertSmurfHere
288 Posts
this is why I want to ignore this shit none of you can fucking read | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
Seriously D1 you went from "Cora/Grack is scum" to "I'm voting for Nisani" in like 15 minutes. Great way to jump on the wagon. | ||
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InsertSmurfHere
288 Posts
ALL YOU'VE DONE IS TUNNEL ME YOU CANNOT FAULT ME FOR "TUNNELING YOU" WHICH I'M NOT DOING AND THEN DO IT YOURSELF THE WHOLE FUCKING GAME AND NOT EXPECT ME TO CALL YOU MAFIA DID YOU LEARN ANYTHING FROM PERSONALITY? | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18445 Posts
On March 29 2013 04:00 Hapahauli wrote: And if you have a role, I suggest you claim it. Why the hell are you telling someone to claim AT NIGHT? | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256¤tpage=71#1409 On March 29 2013 04:23 Keirathi wrote: Damnit. ?? | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On March 29 2013 04:26 Acrofales wrote: Why the hell are you telling someone to claim AT NIGHT? It's not like he's going to get shot by mafia. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
I was trying to have a conversation with yamato, not make him angry. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
Just because I'm pressuring you now does not mean I have been tunneling you the whole game. You just continue to lie about me and see where that goes. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18445 Posts
On March 29 2013 04:18 cDgCorazon wrote: Yamato you are digging such a hole for yourself here. Basically you are tunneling me and Kei is scum "by proxy". It's not hard to see what you're doing here. You still haven't given any reason that Kei is scum. I'd love to hear an actual one. If he was in fact doing this, I would be pretty surprised if he was scum. Scum is generally not dumb enough to tunnel what are generally accepted as confirmed townies. However, he's not doing that, so this point is moot. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18445 Posts
On March 29 2013 04:26 Hapahauli wrote: It's not like he's going to get shot by mafia. Lets play this game: we're wrong and you got him to claim DT or medic. Mafia knows he's not scum, so even if he doesn't get killed (which I agree seems unlikely even if he's town), he probably gets roleblocked. And what did you gain? Fuck all. Claiming at night is retarded. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On March 29 2013 04:29 Acrofales wrote: Lets play this game: we're wrong and you got him to claim DT or medic. Mafia knows he's not scum, so even if he doesn't get killed (which I agree seems unlikely even if he's town), he probably gets roleblocked. And what did you gain? Fuck all. Claiming at night is retarded. Oh noes! Clearly something terrible happened and town is going to lose. Woe is me. | ||
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InsertSmurfHere
288 Posts
On March 29 2013 00:34 Hapahauli wrote: @ Yamato My larger concern with you is how little of worth you've done on Day 1. Your scumhunting contributions are a Dandel meta case with terribly obvious logical flaw, and "Oh hey Nisani made a sheep vote, lets lynch him." (One could possibly add your "passionate" defense of prplhz, but that's defending a townie, and not scumhunting.) Now your Day 1 is problematic for several reasons. 1) You've been "captain-meta-pants" this game, yet completely failed to look into Nisani's meta. At all. You love meta arguments as town, and I get no hint from your filter that you even looked into his game history. 2) You were foaming at the mouth defending prplhz, and I don't see that effort anywhere else in your filter when it comes to pushing a scum-case or hunting scum. 3) The only effort you make into pushing the Nisani lynch is questioning your top town read (myself) about Nisani's alignment. 4) I still have absolutely no clue how on earth you were that convinced that prplhz was town at the time. This has been beaten to death though, so w/e. I mean like half of your Day 1 filter is spent screaming at me about how Prplhz is town. Half. Take that out, and it reveals how little scumhunting you've actually done so far. And to add to that, you're pushing the claimed mason pair right now. I await what you have to write on that subject, but it looks pretty terrible. Fine, let's talk about this, and then I'm going to work. 1) I mainly use meta from games I have played with people. It's the same sort of "meta" arguments I sued with Dandel and Prplhz, the only difference being that I did look up one game from Dandel where he was mafia to see if he trolled as mafia in the early game. No, I've read nothing of Nisani before now, I was judging him objectively. In hindsight, perhaps I should have looked into the games you talked about, because it seems you reached the correct conclusion from his other games. 2) We'll change that tomorrow now that I have some real information. My day 1 reads are always ass. 3) I had to go to work at some point, when you guys did most of the arguing about his meta/sinani/keirathi. Can't be here all the time. 4) Because I can read prplhz. I read him perfectly fine in Nomination, but I IGNORED MY OWN ANALYSIS later in the game, which I will never do again. That's about it, really. This boils down to "I don't think you're scumhunting" which is a somewhat valid accusation that I've been improving upon. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
2) We'll change that tomorrow now that I have some real information. My day 1 reads are always ass. 4) Because I can read prplhz. I read him perfectly fine in Nomination, but I IGNORED MY OWN ANALYSIS later in the game, which I will never do again. These two don't make sense together. 1) I mainly use meta from games I have played with people. It's the same sort of "meta" arguments I sued with Dandel and Prplhz, the only difference being that I did look up one game from Dandel where he was mafia to see if he trolled as mafia in the early game. No, I've read nothing of Nisani before now, I was judging him objectively. In hindsight, perhaps I should have looked into the games you talked about, because it seems you reached the correct conclusion from his other games. What about Kei? And Acro? And Corazon? You're apparently suspicious of them, yet your arguments against them are devoid of meta. All this rings especially hollow given your immense faith in your read on prplzh meta read. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On March 28 2013 14:17 InsertSmurfHere wrote: When I get home from work, I'm going to lay out the scum team for you guys. Too easy. On March 29 2013 04:19 InsertSmurfHere wrote: [...] I'm trying my best NOT to "tunnel" you, because I have enough reason to doubt myself. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On March 29 2013 04:18 cDgCorazon wrote: Yamato you are digging such a hole for yourself here. | ||
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