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On March 17 2013 14:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
I was the other and I disagree. It was easy as fuck. But then, I died N1 so...
Anyway BH I'm intrigued by your ideas and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. Tell me more about TestScum so that I may be a believer.
Well i'm not gonna bother him about his "internet outage" but his entry post into the game mostly revolves around my interaction with TPS. I think a town player would be more like "hey guys I think geript and zare are scum AND HERE'S WHY AND HERE'S A VOTE", and probably make that like the majority of their post rather than quibbling on whether my prior assumption of coag's alignment is pro-town atmosphere or anti town atmosphere.
And the stuff speculating about roles is just garbage.
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On March 17 2013 14:23 Wade Fell wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 14:22 TestSubject893 wrote:On March 17 2013 14:20 Wade Fell wrote:On March 17 2013 14:10 TestSubject893 wrote:
BH, I'd appriciate it if you boosted your ego through winning instead of making easy meta calls.
Gee I'm sorry how many scum did I lynch during the first 2 days of the last game Gee I'm sorry that I easily won because only 2 people in the town knew how to try. It's not easy being one of the 2
My point is that if you don't punish bad town, town still loses because eventually all the good town are dead. You still lost that game. You didn't lose any less just because you were the most talented player on the losing team.
If you're going to vote me just for thinking that bad town causes town to lose, your vote won't me moving any time soon.
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On March 17 2013 14:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh don't be like that BH Test did exactly what he had to do to win. Bitter. I am disappoint.
I'm just mad at oats really
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On March 17 2013 14:26 TestSubject893 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 14:23 Wade Fell wrote:On March 17 2013 14:22 TestSubject893 wrote:On March 17 2013 14:20 Wade Fell wrote:On March 17 2013 14:10 TestSubject893 wrote:
BH, I'd appriciate it if you boosted your ego through winning instead of making easy meta calls.
Gee I'm sorry how many scum did I lynch during the first 2 days of the last game Gee I'm sorry that I easily won because only 2 people in the town knew how to try. It's not easy being one of the 2 My point is that if you don't punish bad town, town still loses because eventually all the good town are dead. You still lost that game. You didn't lose any less just because you were the most talented player on the losing team. If you're going to vote me just for thinking that bad town causes town to lose, your vote won't me moving any time soon.
So far you've talked about a number of topics, including whether attacking co-ag creates the right kind of "atmosphere", last game, VE's hilarious attempts to organize town, and finally a tiny little sentence about your scumreads.
No votes, no cases, not even a rehashing of what convinced you or an attempt to convince others! Nothing. You are far more interested in arguing about whether I'm creating a good atmosphere than actually creating one by pressuring scum or helping your wagon.
You dont' want to lynch geript and zare.
you just want to say you want to lynch them.
scum.
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What I find suspicious about zarepath is that his suspicions and opinions feel shallow. It doesn't seem to me like he has a desire to delve into scumhunting. The one exception I found to this was when zarepath was questioning Coag in this post.
What I did learn from reading zarepath's filter is that he doesn't like people who townclaim, people who discuss the setup, and people who talk about policy (specifically SAST). Almost all of his suspicions so far (Coag exception) are people that have fallen into one of those categories.
I'm waiting on zarepath to come out strongly for a lynch candidate and provide his own reasoning, something beyond shuffling the candidate into one of those categories. He almost got there with one of his more recent posts on GK, but backed off it and then left the thread.
I agree with Scib's impression of zarepath's first post and how zarepath's dealing with TPS seems inconsistent.
I'll be around for the next hour or so reviewing GK's meta before I go to bed, let's talk.
##Join: SAST
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On March 17 2013 14:29 Wade Fell wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 14:26 TestSubject893 wrote:On March 17 2013 14:23 Wade Fell wrote:On March 17 2013 14:22 TestSubject893 wrote:On March 17 2013 14:20 Wade Fell wrote:On March 17 2013 14:10 TestSubject893 wrote:
BH, I'd appriciate it if you boosted your ego through winning instead of making easy meta calls.
Gee I'm sorry how many scum did I lynch during the first 2 days of the last game Gee I'm sorry that I easily won because only 2 people in the town knew how to try. It's not easy being one of the 2 My point is that if you don't punish bad town, town still loses because eventually all the good town are dead. You still lost that game. You didn't lose any less just because you were the most talented player on the losing team. If you're going to vote me just for thinking that bad town causes town to lose, your vote won't me moving any time soon. So far you've talked about a number of topics, including whether attacking co-ag creates the right kind of "atmosphere", last game, VE's hilarious attempts to organize town, and finally a tiny little sentence about your scumreads. No votes, no cases, not even a rehashing of what convinced you or an attempt to convince others! Nothing. You are far more interested in arguing about whether I'm creating a good atmosphere than actually creating one by pressuring scum or helping your wagon. You dont' want to lynch geript and zare. you just want to say you want to lynch them. scum.
I haven't voted or made a case yet because, having just finished reading the thread for the first time, I haven't come to a very strong stance yet. Imagine that.
I understand that you're mad a newbie beat you last game. You can label lucky if outplayed makes you feel bad, but don't let it bias you in this game, please.
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I'd rather he give us his reasoning for geript and zare "lynch preference" (read: not scum reads).
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I mean, I _assume_ a "lynch preference" is the same as a scumread, unless of course he is scum and would prefer to lynch town
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On March 17 2013 14:33 DoYouHas wrote:What I find suspicious about zarepath is that his suspicions and opinions feel shallow. It doesn't seem to me like he has a desire to delve into scumhunting. The one exception I found to this was when zarepath was questioning Coag in this post.What I did learn from reading zarepath's filter is that he doesn't like people who townclaim, people who discuss the setup, and people who talk about policy (specifically SAST). Almost all of his suspicions so far (Coag exception) are people that have fallen into one of those categories. I'm waiting on zarepath to come out strongly for a lynch candidate and provide his own reasoning, something beyond shuffling the candidate into one of those categories. He almost got there with one of his more recent posts on GK, but backed off it and then left the thread. I agree with Scib's impression of zarepath's first post and how zarepath's dealing with TPS seems inconsistent. I'll be around for the next hour or so reviewing GK's meta before I go to bed, let's talk. ##Join: SAST
Did you notice how he's suspicious of sandroba but agrees with sandroba that Grey is suspicious?
Like if he were town you'd think he'd mention that fact and explain his thought process on being suspicious of both.
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On March 17 2013 14:35 Wade Fell wrote:
I mean, I _assume_ a "lynch preference" is the same as a scumread, unless of course he is scum and would prefer to lynch town
Right, it's just funny how he's all about lynching Coag even if he's town to "punish" him, and simultaneously doesn't call his lynch preferences scum (or give any reasoning for them).
Just a nitpicky psychological thing. May not mean anything.
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On March 17 2013 13:52 goodkarma wrote:
Well, here it comes... The promised post. While I don't know if it can live up to everyone's expectations, I'll do my best. These are the people I've currently focused my attention on.:
Greymist
First off, go through Greymist's filter and here's your challenge: find a game he's played in that is a serious one (e.g. non-caller) he solo played. I found one hydra game, and a caller game, but those aren't exactly helpful in this context. Hence why I asked. I'm 99% sure that people just spewed out the accusation I was too lazy to search without even thinking to look themselves, because that's their level of fucking lazy... I sifted through the 10 pages and couldn't find anything...
Greymist is someone that has contributed nothing of value to date. What little he has said seems to be either completely not relevant to the game, general agreement to remarks made, or concern about being accused in the case of sandroba. He hasn't stuck his neck out at all, and is currently on my scumlist. He is my top scumread, as unlike some other lurker-type players, he's had ample opportunity to contribute and every time he's opted to provide nothing of value.
##Vote: Greymist
Darthpunk
Darthpunk is someone whose play I know can be stellar as both town and scum, yet currently I'm leaning towards scum. He has been lurking the thread rather hard, which is uncharacteristic of both his town and scum play. Yet what little he has said just doesn't make sense to me as town. He seems content to lynch the first (trolly) thing that moves (gerupt), and then to not followup in thread at all... This is definitely not pro-town, and I'm leaning scum on him, but I'd really like to see more from him. It's the biggest reason I've been trying to wait before giving scumreads, because I was really expecting more from him.
Peashooter
When it comes to thepeashooter, I was in general agreement with blazinghand's case. However, what sticks out to me is that instead of backing down, he's decided to maintain his case against coagulation. This is not the kind of move I'd expect from scum, as all it does is have him keeping his neck stuck out in general view. It would have been much easier for him (as scum) to move to a popular target and hide behind him. As such, I'm inclined to not vote for him this cycle and give him a chance. This is not a wagon I plan to get behind.
Sandroba
Finally, there's Sandroba. What worries me most about Sandroba is that lurking the shit out of thread is a scumtell for him. I'm thinking specifically of the scumgame he had in chrono trigger mafia, the only game I've personally played with him. There, past a certain point, he kind of just completely gave up trying. If he can't contribute any further by the deadline, my vote will likely switch to him.
Perfect, I was waiting for this!
Does anyone else but me find this post odd? let me tell you why you should.
First off. I have contributed about 0 things this game. Zilch. Nada. So much so that it honestly should be a null/leaning scum tell on me. Especially considering I have not been around for the last few hours or so. Its not like im spamming or trolling, I have been a non presence.
Now normally this would be an OK pressure vote, if thats what this was. HOWEVER, he says that I am his number 1 scumread (he's willing to put a vote on me), saying that I have had ample opportunity to contribute, and am MORE than a lurker.
What makes this an accusation post rather than just a defense post by me, however, is when we look at the rest of his reads. Instead of just pushing me and trying to convince town to get behind my lynch (something you can see every other town player doing, after all the goal of this game is to reach a majority on players), he goes on to make sure the town knows he MIGHT be swapping to another person, thereby setting himself up for a future vote swap.
This is not only to mention the content of his reads here. Notice that he really doesn't have anything to say, and picks on the easy targets. More notably, is that he picks on targets with the same sins as me this game, yet not mentioning why he is voting me over them.
I can tell you why, Its because my lack of thread presence, to a scum player, would basically have them salivating for a day 1 miss lynch. I am an easy, low risk lynch with almost no thread presence to back myself up. I find this post suspicious because it is a cookie cutter, "here are a few reads" post that has no interaction with other players, no real pushing, no new information, and in my eyes makes more sense from a scum perspective than a town one.
I will be voting goodkarma until I can be convinced otherwise.
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On March 17 2013 14:36 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 14:33 DoYouHas wrote:What I find suspicious about zarepath is that his suspicions and opinions feel shallow. It doesn't seem to me like he has a desire to delve into scumhunting. The one exception I found to this was when zarepath was questioning Coag in this post.What I did learn from reading zarepath's filter is that he doesn't like people who townclaim, people who discuss the setup, and people who talk about policy (specifically SAST). Almost all of his suspicions so far (Coag exception) are people that have fallen into one of those categories. I'm waiting on zarepath to come out strongly for a lynch candidate and provide his own reasoning, something beyond shuffling the candidate into one of those categories. He almost got there with one of his more recent posts on GK, but backed off it and then left the thread. I agree with Scib's impression of zarepath's first post and how zarepath's dealing with TPS seems inconsistent. I'll be around for the next hour or so reviewing GK's meta before I go to bed, let's talk. ##Join: SAST Did you notice how he's suspicious of sandroba but agrees with sandroba that Grey is suspicious? Like if he were town you'd think he'd mention that fact and explain his thought process on being suspicious of both.
Are you talking about GK or zare?
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Hey Grey is here! Whatchoo think of TestSubject Grey? One of The Team has a hardon for him and I'm looking him over now.
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Ok, VE, I can go into a little detail.
geript:
The RNG stuff doesn't seem very indicative to me, but the tarot card speculation rubbed me the wrong way. It seems like he's posting just to post. I really don't think anyone could think that speculating about similarities to tarot cards could get us anything, so it stuck out to me as scummy.
zare:
Zare's post here basically just seems like a summary. It struck me as an attempt to just blend into the crowd. He doesn't add anything to the discussion really, but takes 3 paragraphs to do it. Very much a feigning contribution kind of post.
If I had to pick right this second I'd vote to lynch zare.
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On March 17 2013 14:40 DoYouHas wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 14:36 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 17 2013 14:33 DoYouHas wrote:What I find suspicious about zarepath is that his suspicions and opinions feel shallow. It doesn't seem to me like he has a desire to delve into scumhunting. The one exception I found to this was when zarepath was questioning Coag in this post.What I did learn from reading zarepath's filter is that he doesn't like people who townclaim, people who discuss the setup, and people who talk about policy (specifically SAST). Almost all of his suspicions so far (Coag exception) are people that have fallen into one of those categories. I'm waiting on zarepath to come out strongly for a lynch candidate and provide his own reasoning, something beyond shuffling the candidate into one of those categories. He almost got there with one of his more recent posts on GK, but backed off it and then left the thread. I agree with Scib's impression of zarepath's first post and how zarepath's dealing with TPS seems inconsistent. I'll be around for the next hour or so reviewing GK's meta before I go to bed, let's talk. ##Join: SAST Did you notice how he's suspicious of sandroba but agrees with sandroba that Grey is suspicious? Like if he were town you'd think he'd mention that fact and explain his thought process on being suspicious of both. Are you talking about GK or zare?
GK, in his most recent Reads post.
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EBWOP: Yeah, I meant them as scumreads. These 2 are scumreads to me.
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Testsubject is basically just making half-assed attacks on the D1 lynchbait kk
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On March 17 2013 14:40 TestSubject893 wrote:Ok, VE, I can go into a little detail. geript:The RNG stuff doesn't seem very indicative to me, but the tarot card speculation rubbed me the wrong way. It seems like he's posting just to post. I really don't think anyone could think that speculating about similarities to tarot cards could get us anything, so it stuck out to me as scummy. zare:Zare's post here basically just seems like a summary. It struck me as an attempt to just blend into the crowd. He doesn't add anything to the discussion really, but takes 3 paragraphs to do it. Very much a feigning contribution kind of post. If I had to pick right this second I'd vote to lynch zare.
How about you give me your thoughts on the overwhelming vote leader right now, GoodKarma? Thank you for providing your lynch preferences, but those points seem a little weak and the case on GK grows stronger with every post he makes. I'd like your thoughts on why the majority of voters are wrong and we should vote for one of your guys.
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I found it surprising, but not particularly scummy. Picking 2 people as your top scum reads (at least the ones he is most likely to vote) in spite of them being at odds with each other earlier in the thread is a bold move. It strikes me as the paranoia of a townie, not the calculated target of scum (yes, you are slowly winning me over BH/GK).
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On March 17 2013 14:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hey Grey is here! Whatchoo think of TestSubject Grey? One of The Team has a hardon for him and I'm looking him over now.
Looking now.
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