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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Either way I didn't get any PMs from DrH so once again, I don't see how any of it matters. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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RyuSuzaku
Japan139 Posts
Zarepath's post calling out me and Kita is afaik the first time he has mentioned either of us all game; quite convenient for him given that he has done absolutely nothing himself. I'm on my phone on lunch break but I should be back in a few hours to post properly. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
I'm the only person so far to post reads and this is town's last chance. | ||
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RyuSuzaku
Japan139 Posts
So the last scum are in these players IMO: TPS glurio geript Zarepath Given layabout's early posting, and the way both WoS and Kita post, I'm not convinced they are scum. They've all been relatively decent town reads for me. Your effort now redeems you a bit but given that it's only coming out when scum most probably will just win with a mislynch, I am not convinced you are town. | ||
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RyuSuzaku
Japan139 Posts
DYH could be scum too, in fact I think it's very likely actually. He hasn't done anything in a cycle or two. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On March 20 2013 08:09 VisceraEyes wrote: They haven't I just reread. I think his posting is consistent. I think he outlines his thoughts well and I think he's probably town. Your turn. What do you think of Ryu? On March 20 2013 08:16 Wade Fell wrote: zZz On March 20 2013 08:18 VisceraEyes wrote: What the fuck is this? I answered your question, why won't you answer mine? On March 20 2013 08:18 Wade Fell wrote: more clearly: I don't like ryu, and as I mentioned, I think the case you initially outlined against him is reasonable. Given that TPS has like straight-up claimed scum, doesn't remember his own read on coag and has let slip that he thinks coag is town I don't see why anyone wants to not lynch TPS though First off, look at this interaction. Does BH actually answer VE's question? Not at all. This is just a generic +1. In fact, BH actually directly tries to deflect away. As far as BH actually goes to mention Ryu (other than in his mason log with VE) is this short comment. However, if you read the VE-BH mason logs, then you find a real gem: 33 03-18-2013 06:34 PM ET (US) I was spitballing with you but you stated it as reasoning for wanting to lynch Ryu. For my part I just don't care what that says about anyone else yet. XD So I'm not crazy then? That's logical and I'm not losing my shit here? 34 BlazinghandPerson was signed in when posted 03-18-2013 06:51 PM ET (US) You're entirely non-crazy. I'll slap down a patented (link)-filled blazinghand style case on Ryu before the end of the night and see how he reacts to it. Does BH ever drop a case on Ryu? No. In fact, I can't find a point at which BH does more than FoS Ryu and even that he put in the middle of a bunch of other players. Right now, I'm only willing to sheep dead players. I'm willing to vote for two people today unless someone else makes a strong case otherwise. Those two people are Ryu and WoS. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
On March 29 2013 05:25 RyuSuzaku wrote: Well we can cross off Test, he's confirmed. I'm town too, that leaves 8 players. So the last scum are in these players IMO: TPS glurio geript Zarepath Given layabout's early posting, and the way both WoS and Kita post, I'm not convinced they are scum. They've all been relatively decent town reads for me. Your effort now redeems you a bit but given that it's only coming out when scum most probably will just win with a mislynch, I am not convinced you are town. So you think WoS isn't scum, but that the only fruit of his being a DT, a town read on TPS, is scum? In fact, at the top of your list? Can you explain that please, because that's a big token of evidence on his side. Also, geript really got into it with BH; geript was one of the first (if not the first) people to call BH scum. Why do you think a scummy geript would do that? | ||
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glurio
Germany597 Posts
Sorry for my short posts and general lack of activity, i moved yesterday and only have internet at uni or gfs house. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
Point 1. Complete Wifom. I don't see how this is worthwhile point. Point 2. This doesn't make him scum necessarily. In fact, town can want that because scum could randomly claim someone else's role/role name. Point 3. I don't consider that a strong push on wiggles. The point on forgetting the Kita case is quite good. I'll take another look into that specifically after work tonight. For what it's worth, I need to go back and look at the timing etc of his case on Layabout. I really liked many of his points on Layabout and that really moved Zare to towny-null. But actually after thinking about the mirror role more I think I should go back and have another look at Zare. What do you think of my points on Ryu? @Wave--if you want me to read/evaluate things specifically please don't put it in the middle of a big paragraph. | ||
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RyuSuzaku
Japan139 Posts
On March 29 2013 07:38 zarepath wrote: So you think WoS isn't scum, but that the only fruit of his being a DT, a town read on TPS, is scum? In fact, at the top of your list? Can you explain that please, because that's a big token of evidence on his side. Also, geript really got into it with BH; geript was one of the first (if not the first) people to call BH scum. Why do you think a scummy geript would do that? I could be wrong about one or more players; e.g. WoS and TPS could be scum together, or TPS might not be scum, or WoS could have checked a framed target/godfather. However, simply based on how they post and what they've done, I think WoS is townier than TPS. My list is not made in any particular order, especially as most of the scum seem to be lurking. | ||
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RyuSuzaku
Japan139 Posts
I would expect him as town to at least try to be part of discussion (though I would expect that from any townie, tbh). Our best bet would probably be to lynch into someone like glurio or Kenpachi though, as I think they are almost certain to be scum. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
There are still way too many people that have yet to show their faces during a LYLO day and that on its own is pretty much the scummiest thing you could ask for. What better way to ensure town loses than to not show up? Later on this evening I'll be back to give Zare what he wants and talk a little. | ||
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RyuSuzaku
Japan139 Posts
On March 29 2013 09:13 WaveofShadow wrote: It'll be a little bit before I can respond in detail but thank you for looking at the post Geript. There are still way too many people that have yet to show their faces during a LYLO day and that on its own is pretty much the scummiest thing you could ask for. What better way to ensure town loses than to not show up? Later on this evening I'll be back to give Zare what he wants and talk a little. I agree with this completely. kenpachi, DYH, kita etc. all look much worse for not being around. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
geript, when I talked about the Kitaman case, I meant CC's case on Kitaman. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On March 29 2013 09:32 zarepath wrote: geript, when I talked about the Kitaman case, I meant CC's case on Kitaman. Sorry on phone. I don't remember asking about the kita in case. Could you clarify what you're saying? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
I already outlined a case against Glurio, but that was a couple days ago so I'll update based on the events of the last few days. Case for reference: + Show Spoiler + On March 24 2013 03:46 kitaman27 wrote: For tomorrow, someone I think we should be looking at is glurio. To start the game, he posts suspicion against coag, stating that coag is useless, without actually calling coag scummy. Rather than actually voting for coag, he votes for DP, a player he never actually mentions in the thread. It's not like DP was more of a lynch-able candidate as there were only 2 votes on him. During the first cycle, he never actually mentions GreYMisT, which is significant considering he was the main lynch candidate for the day. He soft defends BH, without actually providing a reason why he doesn't have a scum read on him. With the day two vote, he votes for Mocsta as the lone vote. At no point in the cycle does he try to convince others to vote Mocsta, only that he was going with his "gut". After the BH flip, he explains how BH's interaction with Wiggles is scum-to-scum conversation, yet decides to vote cosmicomics. Glurio complains that no one listens to him, but on day one and two there was actually nothing to listen to. How are we supposed to be convinced by his posts if his only explanation is his gut? Overall, Glurio feels like an observer this game, looking to stay under the radar and lacks the town motivation to push a lynch. It seems that he cares more about survival and doing his own thing, voting for players that have no chance of being lynched. He would be a good lynch candidate tomorrow. First I want to highlight the following post: On March 26 2013 02:02 glurio wrote: You still have a scum read on me even after i posted a case on CC, which is my #1 scumread at the moment, kita? I'd like to see how you plan to make that work. When I listed glurio and CC as my top scum reads, glurio responded with the above question. A scum glurio would very well know that I would have no explanation, even though both players would be anti-town. He tries to tie his alignment to the alignment of another player to make me question my reads. On March 27 2013 06:49 glurio wrote: I'll vote cosmicomics today. He couldn't convince me he is town. Notice the wording of this post. After the mirror claim, rather than stating "cosmic is scum", he states that "he couldn't convince me he is town." As a mafia glurio, would certainly know that cosmic is third party, the way he phrases this statement betrays the fact that he has additional knowledge about the game. On March 20 2013 05:20 glurio wrote: I really don't see how anyone can vote for wade fell as scum? In his soft-defense of BH, he disregards any notion of potentially voting for him, but doesn't provide any reasoning why. On March 27 2013 06:49 glurio wrote: We should really look into layabout tomorrow. Last cycle glurio expresses his suspicion of layabout, yet now he has failed to even bring him up, shifting his suspicion towards myself and ryu. Why post suspicion of a player without following through with it, unless you want to create distance from a player in case one of you two flip. On March 26 2013 00:14 glurio wrote: Why are your checks so terrible? Vivax was a crappy target for a check, no one doubted he was town, so was VE. Why not check some people who we actually think are scum at this point? You tunneled me the whole game and didn't check me? Why? On March 21 2013 05:47 glurio wrote: Ok i believe WoS's claim and unvote him. Look how glurio attacks WoS's checks, but refuses to actually call him scummy. He calls the checks terrible, yet never states what conclusion he comes to based on the checks. What point is there to cast suspicion on a player that you have a town read? glurio is playing the classic backseat mafia role. He has no interest in attracting any attention, being involved in any arguments or pushing any lynches. If I had to pick one word to characterize his play, it would be "safe". I can't find one post that shows glurio feels strongly about a single issue He votes for a player on day one with two other votes. He votes for a player on day two with zero other votes. Rather than scum hunting, he is hunting for players to vote for that will keep him out of the spotlight. Notice in his defense post about how his wasn't around for the second half of either cycle. Instead of pushing his lynch, his is throwing down his vote and returning 24 hours later to find out who flipped. glurio is scum | ||
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