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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 15 2013 20:43 GMT
#561
On March 16 2013 05:42 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 05:38 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 16 2013 05:37 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 16 2013 05:36 FiveTouch wrote:
Why the fuck is everyone so worried about me not posting much. This is not an 18 player game. It is a 9 player game. Marv speaks for our opinions, and if he's not around, I'll talk about what I feel is important.

~Keir


'cause you're a good player, and I'd expect you to be more vocal about your opinions.

I'm plenty vocal with my opinions...to my partner, and we discuss them, then he brings them to the thread when we've reached a consensus.


Yeah but how the fuck am I supposed to know that? Part of me reading your hydra is reading you. You not posting makes it impossible to get information out of you, and makes it impossible to hold you accountible for anything.


I don't see that this matters. Hyrdas are one being. You must read fivetouch. Not kier, not marv, but fivetouch.
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FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 20:43 GMT
#562
On March 16 2013 05:42 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 05:38 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 16 2013 05:37 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 16 2013 05:36 FiveTouch wrote:
Why the fuck is everyone so worried about me not posting much. This is not an 18 player game. It is a 9 player game. Marv speaks for our opinions, and if he's not around, I'll talk about what I feel is important.

~Keir


'cause you're a good player, and I'd expect you to be more vocal about your opinions.

I'm plenty vocal with my opinions...to my partner, and we discuss them, then he brings them to the thread when we've reached a consensus.


Yeah but how the fuck am I supposed to know that? Part of me reading your hydra is reading you. You not posting makes it impossible to get information out of you, and makes it impossible to hold you accountible for anything.

I don't have different opinions from marv. The end. Everything he's said, I agree with.
Artanis & marv
Promato
Profile Joined March 2013
92 Posts
March 15 2013 20:47 GMT
#563
On March 16 2013 05:43 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 05:42 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 16 2013 05:38 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 16 2013 05:37 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 16 2013 05:36 FiveTouch wrote:
Why the fuck is everyone so worried about me not posting much. This is not an 18 player game. It is a 9 player game. Marv speaks for our opinions, and if he's not around, I'll talk about what I feel is important.

~Keir


'cause you're a good player, and I'd expect you to be more vocal about your opinions.

I'm plenty vocal with my opinions...to my partner, and we discuss them, then he brings them to the thread when we've reached a consensus.


Yeah but how the fuck am I supposed to know that? Part of me reading your hydra is reading you. You not posting makes it impossible to get information out of you, and makes it impossible to hold you accountible for anything.


I don't see that this matters. Hyrdas are one being. You must read fivetouch. Not kier, not marv, but fivetouch.


son of a bitch! I used to be good at this.
Yamato + Prom hydra for Hydra Mini
NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
Profile Joined March 2013
183 Posts
March 15 2013 20:47 GMT
#564
On March 16 2013 05:43 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 05:42 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 16 2013 05:38 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 16 2013 05:37 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 16 2013 05:36 FiveTouch wrote:
Why the fuck is everyone so worried about me not posting much. This is not an 18 player game. It is a 9 player game. Marv speaks for our opinions, and if he's not around, I'll talk about what I feel is important.

~Keir


'cause you're a good player, and I'd expect you to be more vocal about your opinions.

I'm plenty vocal with my opinions...to my partner, and we discuss them, then he brings them to the thread when we've reached a consensus.


Yeah but how the fuck am I supposed to know that? Part of me reading your hydra is reading you. You not posting makes it impossible to get information out of you, and makes it impossible to hold you accountible for anything.


I don't see that this matters. Hyrdas are one being. You must read fivetouch. Not kier, not marv, but fivetouch.


I think ignoring individual players is a really bad idea and is very limiting read-wise. Hell I'd prefer that people just post individaully really.

Hell Iamp and I are pretty much doing that. We talk about our reads over Skype once in a while, but we're kinda doing our own thing over here.
The two man power trip.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 20:47 GMT
#565
On March 16 2013 05:43 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 05:42 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 16 2013 05:38 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 16 2013 05:37 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 16 2013 05:36 FiveTouch wrote:
Why the fuck is everyone so worried about me not posting much. This is not an 18 player game. It is a 9 player game. Marv speaks for our opinions, and if he's not around, I'll talk about what I feel is important.

~Keir


'cause you're a good player, and I'd expect you to be more vocal about your opinions.

I'm plenty vocal with my opinions...to my partner, and we discuss them, then he brings them to the thread when we've reached a consensus.


Yeah but how the fuck am I supposed to know that? Part of me reading your hydra is reading you. You not posting makes it impossible to get information out of you, and makes it impossible to hold you accountible for anything.


I don't see that this matters. Hyrdas are one being. You must read fivetouch. Not kier, not marv, but fivetouch.

This. Exactly.

I didn't sign up for the game to be a separate player. I wanted to hydra with marv to talk with him during a game about what he's thinking, what I'm thinking, and discuss with him and consolidate reads.

This conversation wouldn't even be happening if hydras were anonymous and people weren't signing their posts. It's a dumb argument.
Artanis & marv
NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
Profile Joined March 2013
183 Posts
March 15 2013 20:48 GMT
#566
Though Kei right now sounds a lot like defiant-town Kei from GSL III Mini. Which is slightly reassuring, but still not determinative.

And fuck everything about flood control.

~Hapa
The two man power trip.
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 20:53 GMT
#567
upgrade FT to somewhere on the green scale, and move promato down slightly red

prom, are you fucking serious, that is the most useful thing that's crossed your mind recently?
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 20:54 GMT
#568
On March 16 2013 05:29 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:

Promato - Leaning scum. Prome is busy and that's understandable, however the Yamato half has been nothing like I'd expect from town Yamato. Even barring his early-game inactivity, his contributions since have been less than impressive. There's a very wishy-washy list post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=402039&currentpage=23#445


This point about the list-post is terrible. Really terrible. What about the contents of the list post? I agree with most of the reads and I agree with most of the reasoning behind the reads. In addition, he said he needed to look into you, and then subsequently did so, making a series of natural posts regarding how you were posting and your alignment.

~marv
Artanis & marv
NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
Profile Joined March 2013
183 Posts
March 15 2013 20:54 GMT
#569
@ PRome

Do you have a standing list of reads right now, or is what Yamato said earlier your collaboration on it?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=402039&currentpage=23#445
The two man power trip.
TLCastingGolems
Profile Joined December 2012
160 Posts
March 15 2013 20:56 GMT
#570
On March 16 2013 05:47 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 05:43 Promethelax wrote:
On March 16 2013 05:42 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 16 2013 05:38 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 16 2013 05:37 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 16 2013 05:36 FiveTouch wrote:
Why the fuck is everyone so worried about me not posting much. This is not an 18 player game. It is a 9 player game. Marv speaks for our opinions, and if he's not around, I'll talk about what I feel is important.

~Keir


'cause you're a good player, and I'd expect you to be more vocal about your opinions.

I'm plenty vocal with my opinions...to my partner, and we discuss them, then he brings them to the thread when we've reached a consensus.


Yeah but how the fuck am I supposed to know that? Part of me reading your hydra is reading you. You not posting makes it impossible to get information out of you, and makes it impossible to hold you accountible for anything.


I don't see that this matters. Hyrdas are one being. You must read fivetouch. Not kier, not marv, but fivetouch.

This. Exactly.

I didn't sign up for the game to be a separate player. I wanted to hydra with marv to talk with him during a game about what he's thinking, what I'm thinking, and discuss with him and consolidate reads.

This conversation wouldn't even be happening if hydras were anonymous and people weren't signing their posts. It's a dumb argument.

While I tend to agree with this line of thinking, there's probably something to be said for analyzing each player individually (assuming people aren't be sneaky when they don't sign their posts and such) but I wouldn't base primary reads on it and probably won't be doing this myself. The reasoning Soniv and I decided to cut the flavour was indeed because all of our posting before today has been a collaborative effort for the most part; we've been on Skype chat/calls discussing and enjoying the hell out of it, but due to our schedules this just isn't possible for an extended period of time. So we're going to talk and discuss our reads and make sure we're on the same page as a hydra, but we'll be posting separately just like everyone else. It's up to other people whether or not they want to judge our posts as separate thoughts or not.

Personally I think if you're posting your reads and opinions which happen to be different from your other hydra head, you're doing it wrong.
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TLCastingGolems
Profile Joined December 2012
160 Posts
March 15 2013 20:57 GMT
#571
And I forgot why I was posting that in the first place.
I won't be around for NK, Soniv might be.
-Wave
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NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
Profile Joined March 2013
183 Posts
March 15 2013 20:57 GMT
#572
On March 16 2013 05:54 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 05:29 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:

Promato - Leaning scum. Prome is busy and that's understandable, however the Yamato half has been nothing like I'd expect from town Yamato. Even barring his early-game inactivity, his contributions since have been less than impressive. There's a very wishy-washy list post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=402039&currentpage=23#445


This point about the list-post is terrible. Really terrible. What about the contents of the list post? I agree with most of the reads and I agree with most of the reasoning behind the reads. In addition, he said he needed to look into you, and then subsequently did so, making a series of natural posts regarding how you were posting and your alignment.

~marv


There's just very little there that I could hold him accountable for. He gives one very obvious town read (DrParnassus), then gives a lot of slight town/scum reads one way or the other.

Could I see a townie doing that? Yeah for sure. However it's Yamato, who's generally passionate and foaming at the mouth about things.
The two man power trip.
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 20:58 GMT
#573
OK. I g2g, won't be back before deadline. Here is my list of least lynch worthy to most lynchworthy

Moology, TlCasters, FT, OO, Promato, Newbie Obs, Dirk

and that's my final answer
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 21:00 GMT
#574
On March 16 2013 05:57 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 05:54 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 16 2013 05:29 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:

Promato - Leaning scum. Prome is busy and that's understandable, however the Yamato half has been nothing like I'd expect from town Yamato. Even barring his early-game inactivity, his contributions since have been less than impressive. There's a very wishy-washy list post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=402039&currentpage=23#445


This point about the list-post is terrible. Really terrible. What about the contents of the list post? I agree with most of the reads and I agree with most of the reasoning behind the reads. In addition, he said he needed to look into you, and then subsequently did so, making a series of natural posts regarding how you were posting and your alignment.

~marv


There's just very little there that I could hold him accountable for. He gives one very obvious town read (DrParnassus), then gives a lot of slight town/scum reads one way or the other.

Could I see a townie doing that? Yeah for sure. However it's Yamato, who's generally passionate and foaming at the mouth about things.


I'll check his filter again.
Artanis & marv
Promato
Profile Joined March 2013
92 Posts
March 15 2013 21:03 GMT
#575
I'm telling you, VE is mafia

He's also all kinds of afk for a while now, which is highly, highly suspicious.

His latest post is a defense of himself from my attacks which doesn't even address the strongest point, that VE is obviously willing to consent to lynching with town in ALL OF ONE POST, despite screaming that Dirk is mafia in all of his other posts. It's exactly the same thing I nailed him for day one in Nomination. Stop fucking ignoring it.
Yamato + Prom hydra for Hydra Mini
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 21:03 GMT
#576
I still think he's town. Everything reads as pretty genuine to me. I understand the flow of the filter and the thoughts. I'm not totally certain about this, but I think so.

~marv
Artanis & marv
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 21:06 GMT
#577
On March 16 2013 06:03 Promato wrote:
I'm telling you, VE is mafia

He's also all kinds of afk for a while now, which is highly, highly suspicious.

His latest post is a defense of himself from my attacks which doesn't even address the strongest point, that VE is obviously willing to consent to lynching with town in ALL OF ONE POST, despite screaming that Dirk is mafia in all of his other posts. It's exactly the same thing I nailed him for day one in Nomination. Stop fucking ignoring it.


Is this prom? How are you so fucking sure about VE being mafia when you obviously aren't even making half an effort to play the game? You have like 0 town cred atm. You seem so goddamn sure about this VE read...... but I don't see how you would be able to be so confident if I'm to believe that you are truly an over-burdened townie who cba to play the game

imo you and VE are at about the same level of scumminess
Promato
Profile Joined March 2013
92 Posts
March 15 2013 21:06 GMT
#578
On March 16 2013 06:03 FiveTouch wrote:
I still think he's town. Everything reads as pretty genuine to me. I understand the flow of the filter and the thoughts. I'm not totally certain about this, but I think so.

~marv

Read the post I quoted.

It's the only time he even MENTIONS Witty while town is fawning over lynching him.

Not only was he otherwise ignorant of town's escapades, but he didn't even bother giving a read on the guy other than saying he's "willing to lynch him".

Come on, Marv, this is scum VE and you know I know.
Yamato + Prom hydra for Hydra Mini
Promato
Profile Joined March 2013
92 Posts
March 15 2013 21:07 GMT
#579
On March 16 2013 06:06 DrParnassus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 06:03 Promato wrote:
I'm telling you, VE is mafia

He's also all kinds of afk for a while now, which is highly, highly suspicious.

His latest post is a defense of himself from my attacks which doesn't even address the strongest point, that VE is obviously willing to consent to lynching with town in ALL OF ONE POST, despite screaming that Dirk is mafia in all of his other posts. It's exactly the same thing I nailed him for day one in Nomination. Stop fucking ignoring it.


Is this prom? How are you so fucking sure about VE being mafia when you obviously aren't even making half an effort to play the game? You have like 0 town cred atm. You seem so goddamn sure about this VE read...... but I don't see how you would be able to be so confident if I'm to believe that you are truly an over-burdened townie who cba to play the game

imo you and VE are at about the same level of scumminess

This is yamato.

And no, me being busy does not detract from my ability to catch mafia.

I am sure about VE because THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I CAUGHT MAFIA VE BEFORE.
Yamato + Prom hydra for Hydra Mini
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 21:07 GMT
#580
On March 16 2013 06:06 Promato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 06:03 FiveTouch wrote:
I still think he's town. Everything reads as pretty genuine to me. I understand the flow of the filter and the thoughts. I'm not totally certain about this, but I think so.

~marv

Read the post I quoted.

It's the only time he even MENTIONS Witty while town is fawning over lynching him.

Not only was he otherwise ignorant of town's escapades, but he didn't even bother giving a read on the guy other than saying he's "willing to lynch him".

Come on, Marv, this is scum VE and you know I know.


WHY MUST YOU PREEMPT MY END OF NIGHT READS

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