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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 31 2013 21:13 GMT
#661
lolz
A backwards poet writes inverse.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 31 2013 21:15 GMT
#662
It's not like it was much of a secret.

Anyway, just add me and I'll listen/provide some input.
Writer@WriterYamato
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-31 23:40:47
March 31 2013 23:40 GMT
#663
podcast is up

When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 00:45:31
March 31 2013 23:43 GMT
#664
this video is unavailable
Hooray!

when you reach the 3p discussion you might want to read this since it clarify a few things that the people in the podcast got wrong.

also i don't know who is was that accused me of not reading the thread when VE and not understanding the recruiter mechanic but that was snide, you were wrong about what happened and fuck you.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
March 31 2013 23:54 GMT
#665
It should be available now!
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 01 2013 01:03 GMT
#666
This podcast partially inspiring me to write an essay on 3rd party Recruitment and Scum
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
April 01 2013 01:07 GMT
#667
On April 01 2013 10:03 Ace wrote:
This podcast partially inspiring me to write an essay on 3rd party Recruitment and Scum

Is it going to be titled, "Why All the Hate?"

It should be. :p
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 01 2013 01:10 GMT
#668
Damn I missed it. Stupid sleep. Maybe next time
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 01 2013 01:11 GMT
#669
I dont know who's speaking but saying the Town hates 3rd parties is a little too blase. Towns dislike 3rd parties that don't help their win condition. Namely Serial Killers and the worst of all, 3rd party recruiters.

Also when choosing to lynch between Mafia and Recruiters (Cults), and it's Day 4 or so in an 18 person game you're probably going to lose by then anyway. If you aren't lynching the head of the Cult you are screwed assuming it isn't some modified version of one. We could argue on the benefits of leaving the Scum alive hoping they shoot the Cult head/he tries to recruit one and dies, or trying to lynch Cultists hoping you hit the head and losing the game when you fail.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 01 2013 01:16 GMT
#670
I just finished listening to the Nomination podcast actually, really enjoyed it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 01 2013 01:26 GMT
#671
On April 01 2013 10:16 marvellosity wrote:
I just finished listening to the Nomination podcast actually, really enjoyed it.


10,000
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 01 2013 01:29 GMT
#672
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 01 2013 01:34 GMT
#673
On April 01 2013 10:26 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 10:16 marvellosity wrote:
I just finished listening to the Nomination podcast actually, really enjoyed it.


10,000


we're waiting
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 01 2013 01:34 GMT
#674
I think 3-4 people is the right number overall. This ended up surprisingly better than I expected it would.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 01 2013 01:38 GMT
#675
On April 01 2013 10:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 10:26 Ace wrote:
On April 01 2013 10:16 marvellosity wrote:
I just finished listening to the Nomination podcast actually, really enjoyed it.


10,000


we're waiting


it's over 9,000

[image loading]
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 01 2013 02:05 GMT
#676
The person talking about having no idea who was scum was so we lynch third party. I completely disagree. That is what scum hunting is for. And it should have been very obvious that kita was scum at that point. and Ryu also.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 01 2013 02:11 GMT
#677
On April 01 2013 11:05 DarthPunk wrote:
The person talking about having no idea who was scum was so we lynch third party. I completely disagree. That is what scum hunting is for. And it should have been very obvious that kita was scum at that point. and Ryu also.

this is the crux of the matter. it is in fact the entire point of the game. the fact that town was unsuccessful in lynching them speaks volume to how valid your statement was/is.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 01 2013 02:16 GMT
#678
On April 01 2013 11:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 11:05 DarthPunk wrote:
The person talking about having no idea who was scum was so we lynch third party. I completely disagree. That is what scum hunting is for. And it should have been very obvious that kita was scum at that point. and Ryu also.

this is the crux of the matter. it is in fact the entire point of the game. the fact that town was unsuccessful in lynching them speaks volume to how valid your statement was/is.


It was very obvious. And even then it was almost guaranteed that EITHER kita or I were scum and bringing the vote to Kita/I would have made it obvious via the pressure and the information revealed by that pressure. Saying that we had no chance/little chance to lynch scum is entirely the wrong attitude and possessing that attitude is almost like a self-fulfilling prophecy.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 01 2013 02:20 GMT
#679
DP, I think you need to look at it from a non-vet perspective. Of the people in the game, there were 4 scum, 1 3P and 9 town iirc. Or close to that, of town the people who should've seen it was DYH, DP, TestSubject and TPS. WoS, Zarepath, Glurio, Kenpachi, and 1-2 others. Those newbies it's not going to be obvious as the point about 3P being anti-town is very true. Add the uncertainty of who is scum and claimed closed game 3P which is likely at least partially lying and it makes lynching scum much less likely. The "sure thing" 3P lynch becomes far, far more attractive. Add in the fact that 'confirmed townie' WoS though that Kita was town makes it much harder to push a 3P lynch. Add in the fact that scum was both making sense and disrupting you and 3P is the best alternative in the same way that VE pushed Wiggles and Ace over BH as he went for the best alternative time permitting. Sometimes you're forced to settle for second best due to the alternative being worse.
RyuSuzaku
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan139 Posts
April 01 2013 02:27 GMT
#680
it's not that there was "no idea" who was scum, but rather that you are never 100% sure who is.

You can 100% lynch a cult leader, or you can try to lynch a scum. You have to do both eventually anyway, it makes no sense to try to lynch a scum when you benefit more from the 100% kill now and using the time to solidify your reads.

The other downside to not killing the cult leader is that you lose control of the game by trying to lynch a scum. You have no way of knowing the size of the cult, so you have no idea how much vote power is truly in the hands of town. You have to use a worst case approximation in that case, which would suggest 3-4 votes in the cult and around the same in the hands of the scum.

Lastly you have to consider that even if you may consider it "obvious" from your perspective, it's only that-YOUR perspective. You can't necessarily speak on behalf of the other townies, especially as none of them actually agreed with you.
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