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On March 06 2013 07:46 Vivax wrote:
People I should read the posts of and play cordially and respect them and answer to them:
Hapa, Prom, Artanis, DrH, thrawn, CC, Dandel, jay
Vivax. Listen.
Can we both take a collective step back from this? I'm sorry I'm being aggressive, but all I want is an explanation for some of your stuff on Dandel. I don't understand where you're coming from, and I want to see what you're thinking.
Like this for example:
On March 06 2013 06:38 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 10:46 Dandel Ion wrote:On March 05 2013 10:43 Hapahauli wrote:On March 05 2013 10:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
Hmm, should the second blue be a named VT too, it might be worth it to claim now.
Twice as likely it's a real blue though. So, meh. Nah not worth it. If there's a 2nd one about, you want to keep scum paranoid about a doctor or cop as long as possible. If there's a second named, scum already know the setup in the first place, right? Since they'd have a roleblocker, and one named is already claimed. So of two rb setups, they already know the real one. At this point, having a "confirmed" town might be better. Also, if it then turns out there's a power-blue left over, we'd have easy pickings. I want the easy way. this assuming drh is actually named vt. Which is... likely. Wat
I just don't understand why your highlighted red passage there is scummy. All I want is a quick explanation - I don't think I'm being disrespectful, and an explanation would be of great help to me.
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Wait. Going back to Vivax's list why am I not crossed out? All I've done is call him scum for good reasons which he has called shit and called me scum for. But he still feels a need to respect my posts? Yeah, Vivax is scum.
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Ahh that is nice, now we can discuss things properly without what the fuck what the shit.
I actually thought he meant "named VT" as in he said that DrH's role name is named a VT cause I only checked afterwards that the House of Parliament has the unflavoured name "named VT".
So I thought Dandel was calling DrH a VT/was doubting his claim something along the lines but that got cleared up when I actually read the OP thoroughly.
I still think we should lynch Dandel since he's asking for it. No WIFOM bullshit like "he's behaving like scum so he can't be scum".
Hapa I have to currently assume you're town I would like you to go through the things I wrote about Artanis.
I have a well structured post about him and I would like you to look into Prom as well since he has accused me of things that are obvious lies but refuses to comment on them or adapt his read when I mention them. He said something about having a meta read on me he didn't want to share earlier but only came out to vote for me after I accused him of being scum.
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On March 06 2013 07:53 Promethelax wrote:
Wait. Going back to Vivax's list why am I not crossed out? All I've done is call him scum for good reasons which he has called shit and called me scum for. But he still feels a need to respect my posts? Yeah, Vivax is scum.
You have provoked me countless times saying I'm a numbnut and something else I currently don't remember but I think you were just provoking me to get me mad and to let me shit up the thread by starting a flamewar with you. I'm not biting and think it was a strategy, not something genuine. After all I can't recall hearing a negative opinion from you about me outside of this game aside from LIX where it was justified.
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On March 06 2013 08:00 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 07:53 Promethelax wrote:
Wait. Going back to Vivax's list why am I not crossed out? All I've done is call him scum for good reasons which he has called shit and called me scum for. But he still feels a need to respect my posts? Yeah, Vivax is scum. You have provoked me countless times saying I'm a numbnut and something else I currently don't remember but I think you were just provoking me to get me mad and to let me shit up the thread by starting a flamewar with you. I'm not biting and think it was a strategy, not something genuine. After all I can't recall hearing a negative opinion from you about me outside of this game aside from LIX where it was justified.
I like you. I genuinely like your play as scum and think you are smart and could be a valuable townie. But I think you are crazy. I mentioned this in LIX and I've talked about it elsewhere. What I have called you is a nutso and I think your town play is well described by that word.
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oh, I wanted to wait and let you adhere to your scum meta more before I posted but with your vote on me I was actually in danger of being lynched and chose to post my case and read on you asap in case I was going to be lynched so that town would look at you when I flipped.
I will bet my relationship that Vivax is scum, I'll break up with her if he is town. That is how sure I am.
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sorry sorry: for jay @dan: why
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On March 06 2013 08:06 Promethelax wrote:
oh, I wanted to wait and let you adhere to your scum meta more before I posted but with your vote on me I was actually in danger of being lynched and chose to post my case and read on you asap in case I was going to be lynched so that town would look at you when I flipped.
I will bet my relationship that Vivax is scum, I'll break up with her if he is town. That is how sure I am.
I agree with your case on Vivax. But I don't know why you think Dandel is town. At first defend him. But you back off and say go ahead lynch him.
First off WHY do you think Dandel is town. He has done nothing town like that i can see. Have you played with alot before. What makes you so confident?
@Dr.H You still haven't given me a response to what you think of Vivax.
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On March 06 2013 08:10 Promethelax wrote:
sorry sorry: for jay @dan: why
Is jay your girlfriend or what
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On March 06 2013 08:10 Promethelax wrote:
sorry sorry: for jay @dan: why
Cause he scum
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Yes in fact I have played with Dan a decent amount. And hosted with him. We talk, I know him. I think he is town.
jay could you give me a three sentence explanation of what you think of Vivax.
Vivax my pizza-loving friend, could you tell me what you think of Jay.
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On March 06 2013 08:12 Dandel Ion wrote:Cause he scum
yes, I agree. Why do you think he is scum.
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On March 06 2013 07:58 Vivax wrote:
Ahh that is nice, now we can discuss things properly without what the fuck what the shit.
I actually thought he meant "named VT" as in he said that DrH's role name is named a VT cause I only checked afterwards that the House of Parliament has the unflavoured name "named VT".
So I thought Dandel was calling DrH a VT/was doubting his claim something along the lines but that got cleared up when I actually read the OP thoroughly.
Awesome. Thanks for clearing that up.
I still think we should lynch Dandel since he's asking for it. No WIFOM bullshit like "he's behaving like scum so he can't be scum".
I think a lot of the arguments on Dandel have been "I don't like how he's playing" or "he's not conforming to how I want townies to play." While I understand the temptation to want to lynch someone for those reasons, I think it's a mistake.
For one, townies play like that a lot. MrZ for example has a very "cavalier/trolly" play-style that draws a lot of ire from certain players, yet it's pretty obvious when he's town. I'm currently placing Dandel in the same category - all I see is a player drawing attention to himself and not giving a damn about what people think of him. I see that as very townie.
At the very least, no one should be lynching someone as active as he is so quickly in the day. We need to stop with the calls for blood and give him the chance to explain himself like anyone else here.
Hapa I have to currently assume you're town I would like you to go through the things I wrote about Artanis.
I have a well structured post about him and I would like you to look into Prom as well since he has accused me of things that are obvious lies but refuses to comment on them or adapt his read when I mention them. He said something about having a meta read on me he didn't want to share earlier but only came out to vote for me after I accused him of being scum.
Regarding Artanis
To preface this, I read through two of his scum-games (Haunted Mafia and Mafia LI). In both, he was captian lurker-supreme. While it's possible that he's since changed his mafia playstyle, it's very hard for me to see scum-Artanis acting like he is.
In regards to your earlier summary of his play...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=400346¤tpage=13#249
...I don't find any of that scummy. What you call "fear," I view as a degree of hesitancy I see as pro-town.
Regarding Prome
He's acting pretty brave right now. Given his latest scum performance, I just don't see the scum in him.
To be frank, I think both of these reads of yours are more emotionally influenced than anything else. A major part of your suspicions against these players are that they're attacking you. What you call "lies," I see as miscommunications on both sides.
As for my own reads right now, I'm most concerned about Jay and Thrawn.
Both of them haven't been involved or engaged in discussion, and a lot of the spats right now just look like a bunch of townies screaming at each other.
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On March 06 2013 08:13 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 08:12 Dandel Ion wrote:On March 06 2013 08:10 Promethelax wrote:
sorry sorry: for jay @dan: why Cause he scum yes, I agree. Why do you think he is scum.
Because his push on my is shitty and scummy.
On March 06 2013 07:58 Vivax wrote:
Ahh that is nice, now we can discuss things properly without what the fuck what the shit.
I actually thought he meant "named VT" as in he said that DrH's role name is named a VT cause I only checked afterwards that the House of Parliament has the unflavoured name "named VT".
So I thought Dandel was calling DrH a VT/was doubting his claim something along the lines but that got cleared up when I actually read the OP thoroughly.
I still think we should lynch Dandel since he's asking for it. No WIFOM bullshit like "he's behaving like scum so he can't be scum".
Hapa I have to currently assume you're town I would like you to go through the things I wrote about Artanis.
I have a well structured post about him and I would like you to look into Prom as well since he has accused me of things that are obvious lies but refuses to comment on them or adapt his read when I mention them. He said something about having a meta read on me he didn't want to share earlier but only came out to vote for me after I accused him of being scum.
"Yes my whole push was under a false pretense and actually really bad, but I still want to lynch him because thread sentiment suggests it might work l0l"
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On March 06 2013 08:12 Dandel Ion wrote:Cause he scum
Please stop this Dandel.
All comments like this do is devolve conversation into petty arguments rather than anything constructive. Can you lay out the reasons why you think he's scum? Having Vivax reply seriously is only going to do good things here.
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Oh you beat me to it. sweeeet.
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On March 06 2013 08:12 Promethelax wrote:
Yes in fact I have played with Dan a decent amount. And hosted with him. We talk, I know him. I think he is town.
jay could you give me a three sentence explanation of what you think of Vivax.
Vivax my pizza-loving friend, could you tell me what you think of Jay.
Ok so you completly dodged my question of why you think dandel is town.
I have given my reason for voting Vivax check my filter. Should be pretty easy to find.
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