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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 06 2013 00:26 GMT
#401
On March 06 2013 08:36 Vivax wrote:
I kinda respect your opinion you gave me on Prom and Artanis.

The main points keeping me set on lynching Prom were that he lied about what I did without replying back to my counter arguments or adapting his read on me, I already mentioned this.

I found Artanis scummy cause he seemed to have the intention to attack you for giving townreads to so many players which I saw as towntell instead. He also called that process "buddying" and not giving townreads so it looked like he was trying to distort things.

Both Prom and Artanis used the buddying argument which is an argument that you can only use to call people scum of whom you think they are buddying townies, cause I don't think that you would fear scum buddying scum, that doesn't make much sense. So it kinda showed me that Artanis had extra information about the people you supposedly buddied and was afraid of townies trusting each other so quickly.

Prom used the buddying argument too but it actually was consistent given his townread on Dandel.

It's hard for me to let go of my Artanis scumread given this reasoning, I'd rather believe Prom to be scum cause he so openly lies about me and ignores the replies. But the more the game goes on the more I notice he's being quite active and confrontational and asking question so I'm slowly moving towards the town end of things with him. I still want him to correct what he said about me "buddying" artanis and saying I didn't push my reads cause that's simply not true.

Dandel would be more of a policy lynch. His trolly, unreadable play didn't help anyone so I want him to play more pro-town and make himself more transparent. Now that people are asking him about me the process has seemingly started so I feel free to cut him out from my lynch choices.

Currently:

Artanis>Jay>Prom


its on this page.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 06 2013 00:27 GMT
#402
dammit! well its on the same page as you trying to suggest I'm twisting your words. I'm going to lynch you today. Just so you know.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
March 06 2013 00:29 GMT
#403
LOL
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 06 2013 00:39 GMT
#404
Prome - he does have a point. He's been very vocal about lynching Artanis all game. What are the other reasons you think Vivax is scum?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
March 06 2013 00:42 GMT
#405
I have a suggestion for scum: Concede now and we start a game from scratch, we will simply force BH to do it. In this thread, with a new D1 post.

No honour lost, just a new chance with new alignments. You don't need to thank me.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 06 2013 00:46 GMT
#406
@ Vivax

Why do you want to lynch Prome so much all of a sudden? You were talking yourself down from him only half an hour ago. It feels like your top scumread changes based on who you are currently arguing with.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
March 06 2013 00:49 GMT
#407
Hapa why are you so stuck on the order of my reads. It doesn't really matter which one comes first, the first one to get a chance for a majority gets hammered. They are three so you can't say I want to lynch the whole town and need to specify more than that.

Don't even know for sure why I ordered them like I did, it isn't rational but gut and the effort I invested into reading them. It doesn't matter. Given Prom's latest blooper I'd put him there first and jay second cause I am more convinced than before after digging through the meta.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 06 2013 00:50 GMT
#408
What makes you think that Prome is deliberately lying rather than him just making an error?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
March 06 2013 00:50 GMT
#409
PROM=JAY=ARTANIS

LYNCH ALL THE THINGS AND LEAVE ME ALONE LOL

##Unvote
##VOTE EVERYTHING
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
March 06 2013 00:52 GMT
#410
You have easy talking, sitting there, asking questions that have already been answered. Put yourself into my spot arguing against walls with townies that don't seem to read my posts but still feel they know enough to think I'm scum.

Sorry for my tone but I'm getting tired of paraphrasing things I already said for the xthousandth's time. I'm not scum and it should be obvious, let's lynch someone already.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 06 2013 01:00 GMT
#411
Yeah you're probably town.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 06 2013 01:05 GMT
#412
For my own reference:

Probably town:
DrH - lolclaim
Dandel - Trolltown
Vivax - Townie with persecution complex.

Likely town:
Prome - has a longer filter currently than his latest scumgame. Still tunneling Vivax more than I'd like.
Artanis - More :effort: than I've seen in his scum meta.

???
Mr.CC - Hasn't done much since the early game.
Thrawn - Ditto.
Jay - Very... passive...
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
March 06 2013 01:11 GMT
#413
Thrawn is someone I didn't consider yet I wouldn't be in grief for lynching him given he's playing trollish casual unreadable etc.

##Unvote
##thrawn2112


A little vote to wake him up.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
March 06 2013 01:13 GMT
#414
Btw I don't suffer from persecution complex I just suffer from people not reading/not reading me correctly, especially when I'm town. I'm ok with it when I'm scum for obvious reasons.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 06 2013 01:14 GMT
#415
Yeah but it sounds cool and is a good talking point for me :3
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
March 06 2013 01:22 GMT
#416
Vivax last posts seem geniune. Also i respect Hapa's opinion alot.

##Unvote
##Vote Thrawn


Thrawn's scum meta is lurking HARD. So far he has fit the bill perfectly. As i can recall he said at the beginning that he didn't look at his role pm. And when he does look at it he starting his lurking marathon. If you look at Normal Mini IV Iamp called out thrawn on it. And lo and behold thrawn was scum.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 06 2013 01:38 GMT
#417
Oh yeah I forgot about Mr.CC

Didn't he want to lynch people for not having posted like 10 minutes into the game and now he's just gone
RIP Aaliyah
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 06 2013 01:40 GMT
#418
On March 06 2013 09:39 Hapahauli wrote:
Prome - he does have a point. He's been very vocal about lynching Artanis all game. What are the other reasons you think Vivax is scum?


No, he has frequently said that Artanis is scum. That isn't the same as trying to get him lynched. If I ended all of my posts with "lynch thrawn" that would not be pushing for a thrawn lynch. That would just be saying to lynch thrawn.

my notes suggest that Vivax is scummier than Jay who in turn is scummier than thrawn. My don't lynch today no matter what list is you, me, DrH and Artanis. Dan and CC are in my probably town but still useless trolls list.

I don't want to lynch Thrawn yet, I want to wait for him to post before calling him scum though, I'd say we give him 24 hours and see what he can do with it. If he doesn't do anything to suggest we don't lynch him we lynch him. If he comes back and shows us he is town we lynch Vivax. If Vivax shows he is town (some fucking how) we lynch jay.

that is where my thoughts stand right now and I honestly don't see it changing without a flip.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 06 2013 01:44 GMT
#419
List O' Questions

@ Prome
Can you give me a short list of why you think Vivax is scum? Just a clear run-down of the points. Some of your arguments (particularly meta arguments) don't match up at all given Vivax's recent behavior. Case in point:
On March 06 2013 06:46 Promethelax wrote:
yes it is, look at LIX for an example of his insane but town play vs fruity or lviii for his calm demeanor scum play. I'd say Vivax is one of the best scum players I've seen develop recently.

His recent town play in NMM IV was pretty decent and not totally nuts but I still find his meta deeply indicative of a sum vivax.


There are many adjectives I could use to describe Vivax's play right now, but "calm" isn't one of them.

@ Thrawn
The only thing you've done so far is tunnel Prome. That's not much from what I usually see out of your town play in the early hours. Can you give us read-updates?

@ Mr.CC
You literally haven't posted any reads. Do something about that pl0x.

@ Jay
Two things concern me about your play right now:
1) You seem to be "going with the flow" a lot.
Things you've done so far...
... Voting Vivax after everyone was suspicious of him.
... Supporting a Dandel lynch when Vivax/DrH were going off on him
... Declaring Vivax town when I said so.

2) You're not questioning your scumreads
You've gone after Dandel/Vivax convinced that they were scum, yet we're only 24 hours into the day.
On March 06 2013 06:44 jaybrundage wrote:
@Vivax If I wasn't reasonable confident that you will flip red. I would go for dandel. Using pressure votes is a lot more scary when its instant majority lynch like this game is.

But that being said. Dandel if you don't start posting stuff that doesn't suck I will lynch you.

Like this is s00per confident, and you seem very comfortable in your reads for someone who really hates Day 1 play in general.

But more importantly, it doesn't seem like you're interested in figuring out people's alignments. You weren't asking Dandel/Vivax any questions and you really didn't attempt to interact with them. The only question in your filter is you asking DrH - an effectively confirmed townie - a question.

3) Your recent vote on Thrawn
In the quote above, you were so s00per convinced that Dandel was scum, saying you'd vote him if you weren't confident in Vivax. But nao you're voting Thrawn... what happened?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
March 06 2013 02:01 GMT
#420
I saw this coming. People would comment on how i wanted to lynch Dandel but now my votes on thrawn. I wanted to vote dandel because of his complete lack of content in his posts. He (finally) started putting in at least some effort with going for Vivax. Which is a plus. He isn't a townie read my any means.

But I completly forgot about thrawn. When you mentioned him I remembered Lamp and his meta case on Thrawn as scum super lurking. That is exactly the case here. Once thrawn found out his role pm he legit stopped posting. He lurked super hard and attributed it to life reasons. Ill be damned if thrawn doesnt come back and give the same excuse.


Also if you recall Hapa I was going after DP and then you had a read on him so i backed down eventually I didn't want to do a 180 then because i was worried about how it would look. But if you have a town read on Vivax I respect that and wouldn't want to go against your reads regardless.

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