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On March 06 2013 12:19 Promethelax wrote:
oh, Hapa, I thought I had answered your question. But I only did it in my head.
Vivax is scum because
1) meta before I explained what about his meta I found scummy. He is someone I think is good enough to change his meta when he knows what he needs to change it to.
His "shift" has been far too extreme and has sounded too genuine to make me think it is fake.
2) He says I'm lying about him and his play but despite that clearly did not want to lynch me for it until i brought it up in the thread when suddenly Artanis/Jay/Me were all the same level of scum. I have a very hard time reconciling a townie player believing someone is lying about them to make a case not think ing that person is the scummiest person ever.
Meh. I don't like this very much.
I think Vivax has expressed much support in killing you, but hasn't communicated his intent all that clearly.
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My vote stays. Kill Jay with fire, or a noose, or a gun, or something.
On March 05 2013 19:31 jaybrundage wrote:Meh, don't like that we already have an outed blue already. But whatever, no reason crying over spilled claims. Not sure what I think about the early votes. Its prolly people fooling around OR SCUM TRYING TO GET AN EASY LYNCH o.o
Buuuuut prolly za jokes. Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 10:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On March 05 2013 10:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
And the problem with claiming that is what? HoP has no powers, mafia has no increased incentive to hit me that they wouldn't normally have. We can strike setup A off the list of possible setups.
You can't throw 3 joke votes down in a game like this. With a scumteam of 2, they can swoop in and force an instant mislynch. In the ensuing chaos it wouldn't be terribly difficult to swing suspicion onto one of the initial voters. However, I don't think any serious townie wouldn't have realized that. At least 1 scum I would imagine has already voted me.
##Vote: Mr. Cheesecake You really think scum would hammer a random vote like that? That's recipe for getting owned the next day. Also scum Yamato did this last game. And he got away with it D:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:32 Vivax wrote:
It's abut 8:30 AM here and I'm about to move out. I support a jay lynch for the time being until I see something that convinces me otherwise.
##Vote jaybrundage
Best mislynch NA YOU KNOW THIS AND STILL VOTE ME QQ
Feigning paranoia. Feels stupidly forced to me. The underlined is also a lie, idk why he would say that.
On March 06 2013 11:25 jaybrundage wrote:I wasn't confident in my reads. I wanted to act like i was to try to put more pressure on them (dandel, vivax) Never have been big on questioning my scum reads tbh. Thats more your forte. My reckoning is if someone is scum they wont give any satisfactory answers anyway. But ill try it out. As for going with the flow. Your right. I prefer to go with people's reads I have a town read on. I have done this to death palmar and even you at points in games. I hate day 1 for a reason. There is no concrete information to go on. Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 11:09 Hapahauli wrote:@ JayCould you respond to the two other things I posted? (Going with the flow + Not questioning your scumreads) I'm also a bit skeptical about how "convinced" you've seemed about your reads on Vivax/Dandel at times this game. You've openly admitted to hating Day 1 play, and you seemed very comfortable with these reads, which is pretty contradictory. On March 06 2013 11:01 jaybrundage wrote:
I saw this coming. People would comment on how i wanted to lynch Dandel but now my votes on thrawn. I wanted to vote dandel because of his complete lack of content in his posts. He (finally) started putting in at least some effort with going for Vivax. Which is a plus. He isn't a townie read my any means.
But I completly forgot about thrawn. When you mentioned him I remembered Lamp and his meta case on Thrawn as scum super lurking. That is exactly the case here. Once thrawn found out his role pm he legit stopped posting. He lurked super hard and attributed it to life reasons. Ill be damned if thrawn doesnt come back and give the same excuse.
Also if you recall Hapa I was going after DP and then you had a read on him so i backed down eventually I didn't want to do a 180 then because i was worried about how it would look. But if you have a town read on Vivax I respect that and wouldn't want to go against your reads regardless. I'd rather see you pursue your own ideas rather than acknowledge all of mine as 100% true.
WTF. Town don't act like they are 'trying' to do something...
Jay's scumreads are...
Vivax. Votes him.
Thinks Dandel is scum.
Votes Thrawn. Now Vivax seems genuine.
Confuzzled.
His posts also seem to be very meek and disinterested... he seems different from his townie games (never played with him as scum). Short, choppy sentences and straight to the point -- it's kind of weird. He says that he 'doesn't like' a lot of random stuff. He also seems to be going after really easy targets (Dandel).
Jay plz talk to me. If you're town I have no clue who / what you're trying to accomplish this Day 1. My goal is to be stupid, buddy Hapa, and see you (hopefully) die. What is your goal, breh?
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Need m0ar non-Jay reads CC
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On March 06 2013 12:43 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 12:19 Promethelax wrote:
oh, Hapa, I thought I had answered your question. But I only did it in my head.
Vivax is scum because
1) meta before I explained what about his meta I found scummy. He is someone I think is good enough to change his meta when he knows what he needs to change it to. His "shift" has been far too extreme and has sounded too genuine to make me think it is fake. Show nested quote +2) He says I'm lying about him and his play but despite that clearly did not want to lynch me for it until i brought it up in the thread when suddenly Artanis/Jay/Me were all the same level of scum. I have a very hard time reconciling a townie player believing someone is lying about them to make a case not think ing that person is the scummiest person ever. Meh. I don't like this very much. I think Vivax has expressed much support in killing you, but hasn't communicated his intent all that clearly.
As I say, its possible that Vivax is town and I would prefer a jay lynch at the moment.
The second part feels very scummy to me but perhaps you are right and he is just communicating it terribly. That is possible but I would expect him to be better than that.
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On March 06 2013 13:06 Hapahauli wrote:
Need m0ar non-Jay reads CC
You know how this works Hapa. You ask me to give reads. I goof off and tunnel Yamato (or vice versa)
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On March 06 2013 13:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:You know how this works Hapa. You ask me to give reads. I goof off and tunnel Yamato (or vice versa)
Ok well anyway regardless of Jay, there is still at least one other scum afoot. Who do you think that scum is and why?
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On March 06 2013 12:12 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 11:55 jaybrundage wrote:
Sigh whatever if you town needs to lynch me to see who the scum that lead my lynch im fine with that.
Jay come on. I've never seen you take such a defeatist attitude towards this game. In fact I have vivid memories of British Mini Mafia I, where your activity and effort gave me a town read on you very early on.
Kind of frustrating when everyone and there mother think you are scum. Honeslty it doesn't matter tho. Day 1 townie lynches happen if town wants to lynch me. I would hope that it can provide information on scum tmw.
I been trying to push my reads and not be overly spammy this game. And it just blows up in my face. fuck it.
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On March 06 2013 13:23 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 13:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On March 06 2013 13:06 Hapahauli wrote:
Need m0ar non-Jay reads CC You know how this works Hapa. You ask me to give reads. I goof off and tunnel Yamato (or vice versa) Ok well anyway regardless of Jay, there is still at least one other scum afoot. Who do you think that scum is and why?
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUgh you make me do things. Idk. I'll shine a great beam of light on the situation later.
I'll be happy with any lynch that is Vivax / Jay / Artanis (maybe?) / Prom. Basically half the thread, which is cool. Jay is the optimal starting point.
I get most of my information from people pressuring me, which sucks because nobody has. I just want to get into an 'loluscum' match with Jay which will be fun. Hey Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay, tunnel me bro you think I'm suspicious don'tcha?
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On March 06 2013 13:34 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 12:12 Hapahauli wrote:On March 06 2013 11:55 jaybrundage wrote:
Sigh whatever if you town needs to lynch me to see who the scum that lead my lynch im fine with that.
Jay come on. I've never seen you take such a defeatist attitude towards this game. In fact I have vivid memories of British Mini Mafia I, where your activity and effort gave me a town read on you very early on. Kind of frustrating when everyone and there mother think you are scum. Honeslty it doesn't matter tho. Day 1 townie lynches happen if town wants to lynch me. I would hope that it can provide information on scum tmw. I been trying to push my reads and not be overly spammy this game. And it just blows up in my face. fuck it.
If you're town, it does matter. You get tunneled all the time as town, and I've never seen you give up like this.
Hell man - just spam and be yourself. If you're town, I'll find out and I'll yell at everyone until they lynch someone else.
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JAY y u give up? Erryone thought u scum last game and u no give up. I r disappoint.
Why are you voting like you are right now?
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On March 06 2013 13:34 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 12:12 Hapahauli wrote:On March 06 2013 11:55 jaybrundage wrote:
Sigh whatever if you town needs to lynch me to see who the scum that lead my lynch im fine with that.
Jay come on. I've never seen you take such a defeatist attitude towards this game. In fact I have vivid memories of British Mini Mafia I, where your activity and effort gave me a town read on you very early on. Kind of frustrating when everyone and there mother think you are scum. Honeslty it doesn't matter tho. Day 1 townie lynches happen if town wants to lynch me. I would hope that it can provide information on scum tmw. I been trying to push my reads and not be overly spammy this game. And it just blows up in my face. fuck it.
Whut
There are a lot of other people being pushed today. There's an open opportunity in this game for any townie to defend himself and push someone else and you're already giving up?
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are we at 4 or 3 votes for jay?
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On March 06 2013 13:47 thrawn2112 wrote:
are we at 4 or 3 votes for jay?
I don't know, but if anyone hammers him, he better pray I'm not alive because I will personally see to it that he policy-lynched.
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what if jay flips scum? You still policy lynch the hammer?
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Oh uh probably not. I mean I'll still be pissed at said person for ending discussion early, but the policy lynch would be stupid in that case.
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so you expect jay to flip town, huh? Why?
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On March 06 2013 14:04 Promethelax wrote:
so you expect jay to flip town, huh? Why?
Idunno. It just seems too easy.
That, and the last time I saw Jay give up like this was when people ganged him on one of the later days in Hero Mini. He flipped town.
Counterpoint of course is that he went down fighting in Normal Mini IV as town.
The point I'm trying to make is that there's good reason to have reasonable doubt about Jay's alignment right now, and I want to take the extra time. Policy-lynch stuff was a poorly-expressed version of that idea.
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Vote Count
jaybrundage (3) - Mr. Cheesecake, thrawn2112, DoctorHelvetica
Vivax (1) - Artanis[Xp]
Dandel Ion (1) - Vivax
thrawn2112 (1) - jaybrundage
Not Voting (3) - Hapahauli, Promethelax, Dandel Ion
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
BH said not to bother with strikethroughs, etc. Take it up with him.
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On March 06 2013 14:07 Hapahauli wrote:
The point I'm trying to make is that there's good reason to have reasonable doubt about Jay's alignment right now, and I want to take the extra time.
Is this because of how you view him as being lynch bait, or is there something specifically about this game that gives you reason to doubt? Can you comment on this post:
On March 06 2013 12:14 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 10:22 jaybrundage wrote:
Vivax last posts seem geniune. Also i respect Hapa's opinion alot.
##Unvote
##Vote Thrawn
Thrawn's scum meta is lurking HARD. So far he has fit the bill perfectly. As i can recall he said at the beginning that he didn't look at his role pm. And when he does look at it he starting his lurking marathon. If you look at Normal Mini IV Iamp called out thrawn on it. And lo and behold thrawn was scum. just look at that post is that a justifiable reasoning for a vote? and yet, he's acting so sure about it. the best part about his line of reasoning is that it doesn't present anything to argue about... it's not an opinion on my overall play so far, it neither quotes or references anything from my filter that he is suspicious of. it's such an easy justification for him to give because there's actually no room for someone to really disagree with him about it
We're finally at a point in the game where we should be held accountable for our votes and this vote from jay is just lazy as all hell. There are NO opinion about any of my reads, NO opinion about how I've acted thus far, NO actual discussion about the differences (other than activity) between my scum/town meta, etc. As I said in the above quote, the stance he's taken is basically a non-stance. It doesn't leave room for argument and contains none of his own opinions concerning my scumminess. His vote is something he can justify as "well in general thrawn is lurky as scum" and there is nothing at all confrontational about that statement.
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ha, I shall be the fourth!
##vote: jay
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