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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 06 2013 02:03 GMT
#421
##unvote

prom's not scum, he's just an angry boy
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 06 2013 02:04 GMT
#422
i haven't actually read the last 10 pages or so, just sorta skimmed em. and the one thing that sticks out is how easily vivax is willing get people lynched over any dumb fucking reason
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 06 2013 02:09 GMT
#423
@ Jay
Could you respond to the two other things I posted? (Going with the flow + Not questioning your scumreads)

I'm also a bit skeptical about how "convinced" you've seemed about your reads on Vivax/Dandel at times this game. You've openly admitted to hating Day 1 play, and you seemed very comfortable with these reads, which is pretty contradictory.

On March 06 2013 11:01 jaybrundage wrote:
I saw this coming. People would comment on how i wanted to lynch Dandel but now my votes on thrawn. I wanted to vote dandel because of his complete lack of content in his posts. He (finally) started putting in at least some effort with going for Vivax. Which is a plus. He isn't a townie read my any means.

But I completly forgot about thrawn. When you mentioned him I remembered Lamp and his meta case on Thrawn as scum super lurking. That is exactly the case here. Once thrawn found out his role pm he legit stopped posting. He lurked super hard and attributed it to life reasons. Ill be damned if thrawn doesnt come back and give the same excuse.

Also if you recall Hapa I was going after DP and then you had a read on him so i backed down eventually I didn't want to do a 180 then because i was worried about how it would look. But if you have a town read on Vivax I respect that and wouldn't want to go against your reads regardless.


I'd rather see you pursue your own ideas rather than acknowledge all of mine as 100% true.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21991 Posts
March 06 2013 02:10 GMT
#424
On March 06 2013 11:04 thrawn2112 wrote:
i haven't actually read the last 10 pages or so, just sorta skimmed em. and the one thing that sticks out is how easily vivax is willing get people lynched over any dumb fucking reason


I'm confident that after your numerous contributions you are going to present us the scumteam on a silver tablet, o mighty thrawn.

How else would you be looking down this way on people that actually moved some discussion forward, I expect great things from you.

I suggest you start by listing the dumb fucking reasons and actually argue against them with some substance I will be here to debate your righteous points of view soon.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 06 2013 02:11 GMT
#425
On March 06 2013 11:10 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 11:04 thrawn2112 wrote:
i haven't actually read the last 10 pages or so, just sorta skimmed em. and the one thing that sticks out is how easily vivax is willing get people lynched over any dumb fucking reason


I'm confident that after your numerous contributions you are going to present us the scumteam on a silver tablet, o mighty thrawn.

How else would you be looking down this way on people that actually moved some discussion forward, I expect great things from you.

I suggest you start by listing the dumb fucking reasons and actually argue against them with some substance I will be here to debate your righteous points of view soon.


nah not yet. i'm not nearly scummy enough yet
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 06 2013 02:21 GMT
#426
Do get to your reads though Thrawn. I'd like to be able to read you at some point before the lynch.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
March 06 2013 02:25 GMT
#427
I wasn't confident in my reads. I wanted to act like i was to try to put more pressure on them (dandel, vivax)
Never have been big on questioning my scum reads tbh. Thats more your forte. My reckoning is if someone is scum they wont give any satisfactory answers anyway. But ill try it out.

As for going with the flow. Your right. I prefer to go with people's reads I have a town read on. I have done this to death palmar and even you at points in games. I hate day 1 for a reason. There is no concrete information to go on.

On March 06 2013 11:09 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Jay
Could you respond to the two other things I posted? (Going with the flow + Not questioning your scumreads)

I'm also a bit skeptical about how "convinced" you've seemed about your reads on Vivax/Dandel at times this game. You've openly admitted to hating Day 1 play, and you seemed very comfortable with these reads, which is pretty contradictory.

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 11:01 jaybrundage wrote:
I saw this coming. People would comment on how i wanted to lynch Dandel but now my votes on thrawn. I wanted to vote dandel because of his complete lack of content in his posts. He (finally) started putting in at least some effort with going for Vivax. Which is a plus. He isn't a townie read my any means.

But I completly forgot about thrawn. When you mentioned him I remembered Lamp and his meta case on Thrawn as scum super lurking. That is exactly the case here. Once thrawn found out his role pm he legit stopped posting. He lurked super hard and attributed it to life reasons. Ill be damned if thrawn doesnt come back and give the same excuse.

Also if you recall Hapa I was going after DP and then you had a read on him so i backed down eventually I didn't want to do a 180 then because i was worried about how it would look. But if you have a town read on Vivax I respect that and wouldn't want to go against your reads regardless.


I'd rather see you pursue your own ideas rather than acknowledge all of mine as 100% true.

The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 06 2013 02:39 GMT
#428
Reading Nomination Mini, you seemed pretty willing to pursue your own reads there. Also, while you didn't post much, you weren't as passive attitude-wise as in this game.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 06 2013 02:39 GMT
#429
##Vote: jaybrundage

them's my reads.

"oh thrawn why would you not explain your vote?"

i'm stoned give me some time. vivax has made this game really difficult to read
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
March 06 2013 02:55 GMT
#430
Sigh whatever if you town needs to lynch me to see who the scum that lead my lynch im fine with that.

The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 06 2013 02:57 GMT
#431
On March 06 2013 11:55 jaybrundage wrote:
Sigh whatever if you town needs to lynch me to see who the scum that lead my lynch im fine with that.



jay, are you really that confident about your read on me, which was ENTIRELY based on meta, that you are already resigning to "go ahead and lynch me, you'll see thrawn is scum then" ??

please tell me more about this vote you've got on me
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 06 2013 03:08 GMT
#432
Thrawn: I'm waiting. However stoned you are you can play the game.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 06 2013 03:11 GMT
#433
On March 06 2013 12:08 Promethelax wrote:
Thrawn: I'm waiting. However stoned you are you can play the game.


there's not much to say. i have town reads on several people that I don't care to talk about. vivax's voting so far has been ridiculous but i'm not confident that I can read him based off of that.

there's jay, who somehow justified voting for me based off of nothing but meta. that's the most bullshit reason anyone could give for voting for me
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
March 06 2013 03:12 GMT
#434
Holy crap this thread blew up while I was at work. Reading meow.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 06 2013 03:12 GMT
#435
On March 06 2013 11:55 jaybrundage wrote:
Sigh whatever if you town needs to lynch me to see who the scum that lead my lynch im fine with that.



Jay come on. I've never seen you take such a defeatist attitude towards this game. In fact I have vivid memories of British Mini Mafia I, where your activity and effort gave me a town read on you very early on.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 06 2013 03:14 GMT
#436
On March 06 2013 10:22 jaybrundage wrote:
Vivax last posts seem geniune. Also i respect Hapa's opinion alot.

##Unvote
##Vote Thrawn


Thrawn's scum meta is lurking HARD. So far he has fit the bill perfectly. As i can recall he said at the beginning that he didn't look at his role pm. And when he does look at it he starting his lurking marathon. If you look at Normal Mini IV Iamp called out thrawn on it. And lo and behold thrawn was scum.


just look at that post

is that a justifiable reasoning for a vote? and yet, he's acting so sure about it. the best part about his line of reasoning is that it doesn't present anything to argue about... it's not an opinion on my overall play so far, it neither quotes or references anything from my filter that he is suspicious of. it's such an easy justification for him to give because there's actually no room for someone to really disagree with him about it
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 06 2013 03:15 GMT
#437
On March 06 2013 11:01 jaybrundage wrote:
I saw this coming. People would comment on how i wanted to lynch Dandel but now my votes on thrawn. I wanted to vote dandel because of his complete lack of content in his posts. He (finally) started putting in at least some effort with going for Vivax. Which is a plus. He isn't a townie read my any means.

But I completly forgot about thrawn. When you mentioned him I remembered Lamp and his meta case on Thrawn as scum super lurking. That is exactly the case here. Once thrawn found out his role pm he legit stopped posting. He lurked super hard and attributed it to life reasons. Ill be damned if thrawn doesnt come back and give the same excuse.


Also if you recall Hapa I was going after DP and then you had a read on him so i backed down eventually I didn't want to do a 180 then because i was worried about how it would look. But if you have a town read on Vivax I respect that and wouldn't want to go against your reads regardless.



##Vote: jaybrundage

RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 06 2013 03:17 GMT
#438
"I was thinking about how I might get attacked (already concerned about survival). I immediately changed votes from Dandel after he started posting (although he is actually still not being contributive). I still don't think he is town but I don't wanna vote for him anymore. Anyway, I won't vote for someone if you think they are town cause I don't wanna have conflict."

Also note this:
1. Dandel has been good in going after Vivax
2. I'm gonna sheep you and if you think Vivax is town that's good enough for me

huh
RIP Aaliyah
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 06 2013 03:19 GMT
#439
oh, Hapa, I thought I had answered your question. But I only did it in my head.

Vivax is scum because
1) meta before I explained what about his meta I found scummy. He is someone I think is good enough to change his meta when he knows what he needs to change it to.

2) He says I'm lying about him and his play but despite that clearly did not want to lynch me for it until i brought it up in the thread when suddenly Artanis/Jay/Me were all the same level of scum. I have a very hard time reconciling a townie player believing someone is lying about them to make a case not think ing that person is the scummiest person ever.

3) see 1 and 2

Vivax has done a good job adhering to his town meta later into this day though and i rather like that. AS much as I think he is good enough to do that as scum I know how hard it is. His responses to my tunnel/pressure are enough to give him some townie points. I'm now lowering him to the lynchable level of thrawn and jay. Of those three I think i prefer the lynch on jay due to his overall lurk and sheep as well as the inconsistencies in his stated day one confidence. But I'm certainly not going to hammer him yet.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 06 2013 03:41 GMT
#440
On March 06 2013 12:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
"I was thinking about how I might get attacked (already concerned about survival). I immediately changed votes from Dandel after he started posting (although he is actually still not being contributive). I still don't think he is town but I don't wanna vote for him anymore. Anyway, I won't vote for someone if you think they are town cause I don't wanna have conflict."

Also note this:
1. Dandel has been good in going after Vivax
2. I'm gonna sheep you and if you think Vivax is town that's good enough for me

huh


I don't understand it much either, however Jay is lynchbait and thus patience is needed here. I'm completely against considering hammering him for atleast 24 hours, and preferably longer.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
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