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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 12 2013 13:10 GMT
#1581
The fuck is this shit Vivax.

You're not this bad. I know you're not. Stop pretending to be.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 12 2013 13:11 GMT
#1582
On March 12 2013 22:10 Vivax wrote:
@ marv

I skimmed the thread this morning before posting the post where I ask for medic protection on him so I must have missed that. Didn't even read properly yet cause I'm busy answering questions to Oats and calling S & B out.


why are you calling for medic protection on a CLAIMED LIAR and defending him as NOT A LIAR if you've NOT EVEN READ HIS FUCKING POSTS?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
March 12 2013 13:12 GMT
#1583
On March 12 2013 22:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
The fuck is this shit Vivax.

You're not this bad. I know you're not. Stop pretending to be.


This is your first post since 12 hours wow are you roleplaying yourself in British II?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 12 2013 13:12 GMT
#1584
I said he is a good shot, like 5 other people. big whoop.
You are basically asking for protection, for a person you arent even sure of as town.

Defending mislynchable townies isnt a towntell at all. Any player could do it.
Also why the fuck does he also wanting to lynch your target a town tell? Again all these things just make you feel good.
*Oh foolishness is defending me he must be town. Oh he is voting for the same person Im voting for? OH MY I JUST LED FOOLISHNESS ONTO A LYNCH!!!!*
so yeah.
No gg, No skill.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
March 12 2013 13:13 GMT
#1585
Read back up to page 25, this time taking notes. Will be catching up today and you'll have all my thoughts by the end of the day.

For now I can say that Vivax entered the thread in an extremely wishy washy manner. Seemed like he wanted to lynch lurkers, but was afraid of saying so. This seems completely out of wack with his town meta, where he ALWAYS says whatever he wants.

Supersoft also tried his hardest to not step on anybody's toes. He "agreed" with Iamp's post, but when questioned about it, disagreed with calling VE scum. Effectively that means he disagreed with Iamp's post.

Also, a little bit about the lynch: if Vivax is scum, then there is almost guaranteed to be scum who refused to leave the WBG wagon. If he's town, then it's completely up in the air where scum ended up. Given what I think of Vivax's entry into the thread, I like the Vivax=scum theory. I will pay special attention to this list: Oatsmaster, Mocsta, austinmcc, iamperfection and prplhz.

Heading to the office. Will continue reading and analysing there.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 12 2013 13:14 GMT
#1586
On March 12 2013 22:13 Acrofales wrote:
Read back up to page 25, this time taking notes. Will be catching up today and you'll have all my thoughts by the end of the day.

For now I can say that Vivax entered the thread in an extremely wishy washy manner. Seemed like he wanted to lynch lurkers, but was afraid of saying so. This seems completely out of wack with his town meta, where he ALWAYS says whatever he wants.

Supersoft also tried his hardest to not step on anybody's toes. He "agreed" with Iamp's post, but when questioned about it, disagreed with calling VE scum. Effectively that means he disagreed with Iamp's post.

Also, a little bit about the lynch: if Vivax is scum, then there is almost guaranteed to be scum who refused to leave the WBG wagon. If he's town, then it's completely up in the air where scum ended up. Given what I think of Vivax's entry into the thread, I like the Vivax=scum theory. I will pay special attention to this list: Oatsmaster, Mocsta, austinmcc, iamperfection and prplhz.

Heading to the office. Will continue reading and analysing there.


Why am I on that list?
Also seriously that list has no vets. Why?
Also what happened to risk.nuke? I thought you had misgivens about him. 0
No gg, No skill.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
March 12 2013 13:15 GMT
#1587
On March 12 2013 22:11 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 22:10 Vivax wrote:
@ marv

I skimmed the thread this morning before posting the post where I ask for medic protection on him so I must have missed that. Didn't even read properly yet cause I'm busy answering questions to Oats and calling S & B out.


why are you calling for medic protection on a CLAIMED LIAR and defending him as NOT A LIAR if you've NOT EVEN READ HIS FUCKING POSTS?


Cause I didn't read his post but have him as town cause of his earlier actions before he claimed the lie.
Simple answer. I still would want him protected after lying cause it's so insignificant. Not going to doubt he's town for now.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 12 2013 13:15 GMT
#1588
I just have no idea how these 2 posts come together.

On March 12 2013 22:08 Vivax wrote:

Then he comes in and actually defends me against marv/Ve who are not willing to listen to one of the strongest players of this forum. Marv's arguments for lynching me suck from A-Z so I'm currently leaning scum on the guy, he also says wrong things about what Foolishness said about him as pointed out in my recent post.



On March 12 2013 22:10 Vivax wrote:
@ marv

I skimmed the thread this morning before posting the post where I ask for medic protection on him so I must have missed that. Didn't even read properly yet cause I'm busy answering questions to Oats and calling S & B out.


Translation:

marv says wrong things about Foolishness, except I haven't even read the fucking thread so I know that's actually completely untrue! roflcopter!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 12 2013 13:16 GMT
#1589
On March 12 2013 22:15 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 22:11 marvellosity wrote:
On March 12 2013 22:10 Vivax wrote:
@ marv

I skimmed the thread this morning before posting the post where I ask for medic protection on him so I must have missed that. Didn't even read properly yet cause I'm busy answering questions to Oats and calling S & B out.


why are you calling for medic protection on a CLAIMED LIAR and defending him as NOT A LIAR if you've NOT EVEN READ HIS FUCKING POSTS?


Cause I didn't read his post but have him as town cause of his earlier actions before he claimed the lie.
Simple answer. I still would want him protected after lying cause it's so insignificant. Not going to doubt he's town for now.


Lying for no reason, repeatedly, to call someone suspicious is not insignificant.

Nor is it insignificant that you are also attacking me for my stance on it, when my stance is demonstrably correct.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
March 12 2013 13:21 GMT
#1590
On March 12 2013 22:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
I said he is a good shot, like 5 other people. big whoop.
You are basically asking for protection, for a person you arent even sure of as town.

Defending mislynchable townies isnt a towntell at all. Any player could do it.
Also why the fuck does he also wanting to lynch your target a town tell? Again all these things just make you feel good.
*Oh foolishness is defending me he must be town. Oh he is voting for the same person Im voting for? OH MY I JUST LED FOOLISHNESS ONTO A LYNCH!!!!*
so yeah.


Oh it's cool you know I'm town
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 12 2013 13:24 GMT
#1591
On March 12 2013 22:21 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 22:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
I said he is a good shot, like 5 other people. big whoop.
You are basically asking for protection, for a person you arent even sure of as town.

Defending mislynchable townies isnt a towntell at all. Any player could do it.
Also why the fuck does he also wanting to lynch your target a town tell? Again all these things just make you feel good.
*Oh foolishness is defending me he must be town. Oh he is voting for the same person Im voting for? OH MY I JUST LED FOOLISHNESS ONTO A LYNCH!!!!*
so yeah.


Oh it's cool you know I'm town


Oh its cool that you totally ignored the meat of that message and choosed to focus on the littlest bit in your favor.
Cute.
No gg, No skill.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 12 2013 13:24 GMT
#1592
marv was the only reason that you unvoted for vivax here

On March 12 2013 06:08 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 06:04 iamperfection wrote:
On topic one of the big reasons i don't want to lynch vivax is i don't trust foolish at all. Reads to me exactly like our last game together where he stop in drop a case then afk. He seems to have no interest in this lynch at all.


fine. i'm tired of bugs and this game is pissing me off. so i'm going to lynch him.

##unvote
##Vote: wherebugsgo


I remember reading somewhere once that bugs said he likes to troll the shit out of the thread when he's mafia. Sadly I can't remember where or I'd show you guys.


Was a desire to lynch bugs at this time?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 12 2013 13:26 GMT
#1593
Vivax needs to be ignored as a liar as well now. He defended Foolishness, and attacked me, on the basis of points that he'd not even read. How can he call Foolishness correct and me wrong when he hasn't even read the exchange? If he had read the exchange it would be quite clear Foolish was lying.

Therefore Vivax is just attacking me for the sake of attacking me, and defending Foolish for the sake of defending Foolish, without actually reading the relevant material.

If town this is just disgraceful, and if mafia it makes a lot of sense.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
March 12 2013 13:27 GMT
#1594
On March 12 2013 22:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 22:21 Vivax wrote:
On March 12 2013 22:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
I said he is a good shot, like 5 other people. big whoop.
You are basically asking for protection, for a person you arent even sure of as town.

Defending mislynchable townies isnt a towntell at all. Any player could do it.
Also why the fuck does he also wanting to lynch your target a town tell? Again all these things just make you feel good.
*Oh foolishness is defending me he must be town. Oh he is voting for the same person Im voting for? OH MY I JUST LED FOOLISHNESS ONTO A LYNCH!!!!*
so yeah.


Oh it's cool you know I'm town


Oh its cool that you totally ignored the meat of that message and choosed to focus on the littlest bit in your favor.
Cute.


You scumslipped you don't have me as town in your reads.


Shoot Oats or lynch him tomorrow


marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 12 2013 13:27 GMT
#1595
On March 12 2013 22:24 iamperfection wrote:
marv was the only reason that you unvoted for vivax here

Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 06:08 marvellosity wrote:
On March 12 2013 06:04 iamperfection wrote:
On topic one of the big reasons i don't want to lynch vivax is i don't trust foolish at all. Reads to me exactly like our last game together where he stop in drop a case then afk. He seems to have no interest in this lynch at all.


fine. i'm tired of bugs and this game is pissing me off. so i'm going to lynch him.

##unvote
##Vote: wherebugsgo


I remember reading somewhere once that bugs said he likes to troll the shit out of the thread when he's mafia. Sadly I can't remember where or I'd show you guys.


Was a desire to lynch bugs at this time?


No. I kinda agreed with your point about Foolish. And yeah I wanted to lynch bugs. At the time Foolish was voting for Vivax, and only later switched to yamato:

On March 12 2013 09:40 Foolishness wrote:
I'm sold.

##Unvote: Vivax
##Vote: Yamato77

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 12 2013 13:28 GMT
#1596
On March 12 2013 21:48 strongandbig wrote:
Anyway I'm glad we didn't end up killing crossfire; his posting really shaped up after I left last night, and if I'd been around I would have switched off of him. Not sure onto who, probably vivax.

I normally read the whole thread before posting to bits.. but this... i had to make an exception.

I was a xfire supporter before the lynch.. but post.. did you read what I wrote on the matter?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=400204&currentpage=78#1541
In short: valid vig target
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 12 2013 13:28 GMT
#1597
On March 12 2013 14:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Scum knew Bugs was going to flip not scum. Scum have virtually no motivation to make a spectacle of switching at the last minute onto Vivax if he's townie, and definitely no scum motivation for switching onto him if he's scum.

Scenarios I can envision scum switching onto townVivax are few. Primarily among them though, to save scum who are on the block otherwise. Obviously not Bugs, but maybe one of Yamato/Crossfire. I unvoted Crossfire because he was here and willing to lynch Vivax, and Yamato because his recent posting has not been as scummy as his earlier posting. However, that leaves the question: which one and which switchers.

The question I'm interested in answering is: are there scum between Vivax, Yamato and Crossfire. This is the question I intend to answer overnight.

Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 12 2013 13:34 GMT
#1598
On March 12 2013 13:53 slOosh wrote:
My scum read on yamato is even stronger now. Take out the Kurumi shot out of his filter and what you are left with is a bunch of one liners throwing doubt and pointing fingers at everyone. Not only that, there is absolutely no consistency with his reads at all. Multiple times he calls slOosh and Cora scum and they get left out of his final reads, he bothers to put in a post detailing people he would liked lynched yet doesn't move his vote on WBG, indicating he doesn't really care if crossfire were to die (does yam think he is town? scum? who knows?). That plus the problems I have concerning his role usage => this dude is scum.

People think otherwise about the role usage: I invite those people to look into his filter (aside from the role stuff) and tell me what they think. Marv I think you mentioned his meta - I'm most familiar with town yamato from Nomination, where he carried town at the end. Dunno his scum meta, but clearly he can play decent town (posting wise and whatnot).

I'll be taking this night to review stuff I missed during the day. Still gonna tunnel yamato though unless people can provide more than "yam's balls too small for that". If you want opinions on specific things ask and I'll address them when I can.

This guys dosnt want to talk about anything besides yamato. He still looks like scum to me.

Why don't you want to play with us sloosh?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 12 2013 13:35 GMT
#1599
On March 12 2013 22:27 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 22:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 12 2013 22:21 Vivax wrote:
On March 12 2013 22:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
I said he is a good shot, like 5 other people. big whoop.
You are basically asking for protection, for a person you arent even sure of as town.

Defending mislynchable townies isnt a towntell at all. Any player could do it.
Also why the fuck does he also wanting to lynch your target a town tell? Again all these things just make you feel good.
*Oh foolishness is defending me he must be town. Oh he is voting for the same person Im voting for? OH MY I JUST LED FOOLISHNESS ONTO A LYNCH!!!!*
so yeah.


Oh it's cool you know I'm town


Oh its cool that you totally ignored the meat of that message and choosed to focus on the littlest bit in your favor.
Cute.


You scumslipped you don't have me as town in your reads.


Shoot Oats or lynch him tomorrow




Again kinda cute.
But its getting old.

I am assuming you are town in that paragraph because you have given foolishness a town read cause you are town. So from the perspective that you displayed, I am saying why its totally wrong.
Any other 'scumslips'?
No gg, No skill.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
March 12 2013 13:35 GMT
#1600
On March 12 2013 22:28 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 14:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Scum knew Bugs was going to flip not scum. Scum have virtually no motivation to make a spectacle of switching at the last minute onto Vivax if he's townie, and definitely no scum motivation for switching onto him if he's scum.

Scenarios I can envision scum switching onto townVivax are few. Primarily among them though, to save scum who are on the block otherwise. Obviously not Bugs, but maybe one of Yamato/Crossfire. I unvoted Crossfire because he was here and willing to lynch Vivax, and Yamato because his recent posting has not been as scummy as his earlier posting. However, that leaves the question: which one and which switchers.

The question I'm interested in answering is: are there scum between Vivax, Yamato and Crossfire. This is the question I intend to answer overnight.

Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it


Iamp I would like to add something: scum have motivation to switch a lynch from a townie who's likely to get lynched to another townie so they can claim to not have been on the wrong wagon once townie 1 gets lynched.

In VE's and marv's case they were strong endorsers of the Bugs wagon initially but jumped off it to switch to crossfire or me.

Crossfire I had as town but I'm not sure on yet but I think I'll roll with town cause there are scummier people currently, and I am town.
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