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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 12 2013 11:41 GMT
#1561
I parrot Marv on this one, if you're listening to Foolishness you're setting yourselves up for failure.

Read Vivax' filter from LVIII where he was scum with Foolish to debunk Foolishness' analysis of Vivax' scum meta. Read the filter of Foolish from that game to see a fucking carbon copy of his filter this game. Both are likely mafia together.
Writer@WriterYamato
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 12 2013 11:43 GMT
#1562
On March 12 2013 14:16 yamato77 wrote:
I'm going to make no excuses for the fact that my play is ass so far.

I realize my reads are shallow but they are my reads and it's all I have time for.

Perhaps some time in the next 24-48 hours I will have the time to explain things in clearer, more detailed terms.

What I will say is that upon in CURSORY look at all the shit that's happened in the last 30 or so pages in haven't read, Foolish needs to fucking die. Useless foolish who picks easy targets is fucking mafia. Look at LVIII or Parallel World. That's what I was getting at earlier.

If he's scum I think vivax is too. That Foolish opening post smelt like a weak bus.


I see these two reads my good yam
but on others could you please expand?
while I don't disagree
who is scum number three?
what is it that you understand?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 12 2013 11:45 GMT
#1563
So I know Moc, oats and Yam are awake
mr marv said one thing and escaped
I soon am going to bed
please use your heads
with your actions don't make mistakes
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 12 2013 11:49 GMT
#1564
On March 12 2013 20:19 marvellosity wrote:
i have no idea why people are listening to foolish at all this game.

he outried lied to put suspicion on me (said he was always suspicious of me when we played together), THEN lied again when i pulled him up (said we'd played town once), and THEN corrected his story once again to that he found me suspicious in the game I smurfed (LIX), which for the uneducated was the game I tunnelled 2 mafia Day 1, got elected and lynched a mafia, then lynched mafia every day

It's piles upon piles of lies as an excuse to call me suspicious, and it's all fucking bullshit.

He still hasn't explained WHY HE WOULD LIE ABOUT IT in order to call me suspicious.

Yeah, im still sussing out foolishness too.

His filter essentially bases all his reads for Vivax/Yamato on Fruity Mafia, which is odd to me considering his recent game count on TL Mafia.

Do you know if Foolishness is a big meta reader or in-game behaviour reader?

I would have assumed with his lack of participation in TL games recently, he would default to in-game behaviour?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 12 2013 11:50 GMT
#1565
On March 12 2013 20:45 Promethelax wrote:
So I know Moc, oats and Yam are awake
mr marv said one thing and escaped
I soon am going to bed
please use your heads
with your actions don't make mistakes

Lol just got home, but heading out for dinner.

I will def entertain you with discourse when I get back home though
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 12 2013 11:53 GMT
#1566
I mentioned earlier that I was highly unimpressed with the way super soft has been playing so far. Town super is aggressive and scumhunts a lot. Scum super is a snipey little shit who does fuck all. Which one does it look like we have this game to you? He's a good candidate for lynch tomorrow.

Marv started odd to me, especially with his ridiculously noncommittal stance regarding myself to begin with. However, he hard defended me when scum had zero motive to do so and a lot of town wanted my head, so I don't think he's mafia right now. The rest if his play is pro-town but that is how I expect mafia Marv to play. He does look highly involved currently, so that's a point in his immediate favor. He's still on my radar, though, if he does some weird stuff.

I haven't filtered prplhz, but his start was similar to his scum start from LIX, so he's worth a look to see if he shaped up or not while I was gone.

Ver is a vigi shot.

I can't tell whether the scummy tunnelers, Sloosh and Cora, are actually convinced I am mafia or are faking it. If I believe one of them, it's Cora, but it's only because I've seen him do something similar n0 and d1 of Duel Mafia. Sloosh I expect more from as town than this idiotic tunnel, but he might just be really fucking wrong.

That's about all I have at the moment. There's some notable gaps As some people I completely wrote off, but you should get the gist.
Writer@WriterYamato
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 12 2013 12:04 GMT
#1567
Don't shoot people on N1.

And don't shoot people on D1.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 12 2013 12:07 GMT
#1568
On March 12 2013 18:45 prplhz wrote:
I'm going to write something during the night I think.

If you guys want to lynch me tomorrow please let me know so I can activate my power.


why would we let you know?
a pair you must grow
fight the lynch with your words
don't be a turd
answer me before you go.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 12 2013 12:21 GMT
#1569
On March 12 2013 21:07 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 18:45 prplhz wrote:
I'm going to write something during the night I think.

If you guys want to lynch me tomorrow please let me know so I can activate my power.


why would we let you know?
a pair you must grow
fight the lynch with your words
don't be a turd
answer me before you go.

I guess it was a long shot to ask you to foil your own lynch, you looked right through it. Worth a try though.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 12 2013 12:25 GMT
#1570
On March 12 2013 21:21 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 21:07 Promethelax wrote:
On March 12 2013 18:45 prplhz wrote:
I'm going to write something during the night I think.

If you guys want to lynch me tomorrow please let me know so I can activate my power.


why would we let you know?
a pair you must grow
fight the lynch with your words
don't be a turd
answer me before you go.

I guess it was a long shot to ask you to foil your own lynch, you looked right through it. Worth a try though.


seriously whats going on?
I haven't ever seen you so far gone
even in ACME you tried
to for a replacement you cried
wake up, and find scum, its well past dawn
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 12 2013 12:25 GMT
#1571
Oh, and if people still don't think my Kurumi shot was justified, look at his play right before I said I was going to "solve the situation". It wasn't until he thought he was dead that he begins to act townish

He even says he's going to pardon the lynch. Why do I want to let this unstable person ruin town's day even further? I maintain, it was a pro-town move. Unfortunately I didn't have the time to adequately deal with the heat that I KNEW would come my way after this, but I didn't get lynched and a third party did so overall it's a decent win for town.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 12 2013 12:30 GMT
#1572
ONE LAST THING

Foolishness, if your plan is to all-in me, I think you'll be disappointed to know that I have gotten quite good at appearing town as town lately, even in the face of a lynch. All you're doing is MOTIVATING me to crush you in the upcoming day with meta analyses of yourself and Vivax.
Writer@WriterYamato
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 12 2013 12:45 GMT
#1573
On March 12 2013 20:19 marvellosity wrote:
i have no idea why people are listening to foolish at all this game.

he outried lied to put suspicion on me (said he was always suspicious of me when we played together), THEN lied again when i pulled him up (said we'd played town once), and THEN corrected his story once again to that he found me suspicious in the game I smurfed (LIX), which for the uneducated was the game I tunnelled 2 mafia Day 1, got elected and lynched a mafia, then lynched mafia every day

It's piles upon piles of lies as an excuse to call me suspicious, and it's all fucking bullshit.

He still hasn't explained WHY HE WOULD LIE ABOUT IT in order to call me suspicious.


He said he thinks you're scum but he actually always thinks you're scum so I don't see how he's lying to put suspicion on you. You're making up things. He just says he isn't sure about his read on you.

Don't see why would have to lie to say something like that it's not even to say that you're scum, it's actually a way of saying he doesn't know if you're scum.

Ver might be a vig shot but prplhz is a better one he's actively useless and looks like the LIX prplhz. He also said Bugs "What you shot me over other assholes in the thread" so he knows he's playing like an asshole but doesn't want to change that, shoot him.

I need to look at crossfire again though cause his posts before lynch don't look good but I just came back so I'll go for a more analytic approach.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
March 12 2013 12:48 GMT
#1574
On March 12 2013 21:30 yamato77 wrote:
ONE LAST THING

Foolishness, if your plan is to all-in me, I think you'll be disappointed to know that I have gotten quite good at appearing town as town lately, even in the face of a lynch. All you're doing is MOTIVATING me to crush you in the upcoming day with meta analyses of yourself and Vivax.


Hahahahaha



But seriously Yamato you gotta put your money where your mouth is man, if you're town you're like mislynch target alpha for scum right now so starting to look townie is a pretty good option.

Anyway I'm glad we didn't end up killing crossfire; his posting really shaped up after I left last night, and if I'd been around I would have switched off of him. Not sure onto who, probably vivax.

The way this turned out does make the last minute switch guys look good, although not conclusively so (I have been in games where scum organized a last-minute switch from one townie onto another townie, confusing as fuck)

I ended up being right about bugs being third party, but wrong about him being a jester or village idiot, so good news there too.

"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 12 2013 12:52 GMT
#1575
I will repeat though: Every protective role not protecting Foolishness is an idiot. Unless you're 100 % sure this dude is scum then you have to protect him, there are other candidates who are good but I don't want to mention them. Don't protect me.

@ S & B

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 12 2013 21:48 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 21:30 yamato77 wrote:
ONE LAST THING

Foolishness, if your plan is to all-in me, I think you'll be disappointed to know that I have gotten quite good at appearing town as town lately, even in the face of a lynch. All you're doing is MOTIVATING me to crush you in the upcoming day with meta analyses of yourself and Vivax.


Hahahahaha



But seriously Yamato you gotta put your money where your mouth is man, if you're town you're like mislynch target alpha for scum right now so starting to look townie is a pretty good option.


Anyway I'm glad we didn't end up killing crossfire; his posting really shaped up after I left last night, and if I'd been around I would have switched off of him. Not sure onto who, probably vivax.

The way this turned out does make the last minute switch guys look good, although not conclusively so (I have been in games where scum organized a last-minute switch from one townie onto another townie, confusing as fuck)

I ended up being right about bugs being third party, but wrong about him being a jester or village idiot, so good news there too.




This is a scummy thing to say would you tell to someone you're not sure of being town to start looking like he's town?
Do you want to find out he's scum or do you want him to give you reasons to not believe he is?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 12 2013 12:59 GMT
#1576
Prp is a good vig shot, Useless prp is scum prp.

Also Vivax, how sure are you that Foolishness is town? Also directing blue roles is utterly NOT COOL.
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 12 2013 13:03 GMT
#1577
On March 12 2013 21:45 Vivax wrote:

He said he thinks you're scum but he actually always thinks you're scum so I don't see how he's lying to put suspicion on you. You're making up things. He just says he isn't sure about his read on you.

Don't see why would have to lie to say something like that it's not even to say that you're scum, it's actually a way of saying he doesn't know if you're scum.



you're a fucking idiot. as per usual.

On March 12 2013 10:34 Foolishness wrote:
I'm pretty sure cDgCorazon is town. At least right now he'd be a terrible lynch. Crossfire I don't know I haven't analyzed him yet. I actually think that marvellosity is mafia but I call him scum every game and I'm always wrong so that probably means as much as VE saying he doesn't post a lot.


He calls me scum every game. YES BECAUSE HE IS MAFIA IN EVERY GAME WE'VE PLAYED. and I'm always wrong - of course he's always wrong, he's fucking mafia. How can he think I'm scum in every game we've played when he's never been town in a game we've played?

I pick him up on this, and he starts to wriggle:

On March 12 2013 10:37 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 10:35 marvellosity wrote:
On March 12 2013 10:34 Foolishness wrote:
I'm pretty sure cDgCorazon is town. At least right now he'd be a terrible lynch. Crossfire I don't know I haven't analyzed him yet. I actually think that marvellosity is mafia but I call him scum every game and I'm always wrong so that probably means as much as VE saying he doesn't post a lot.


that's because you've been mafia in every game we've played together, dear. infallible tell so far. do carry on down this road, though.

No one game I was town but you were town too.


Oh yeah dudes, there was this one game... except marv-motherfucking-ellosity *remembers* every game I play with people like Palmar, Foolish, syllogism, and I know this to be untrue. I pick him up on it again.

On March 12 2013 11:09 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 10:38 marvellosity wrote:
On March 12 2013 10:37 Foolishness wrote:
On March 12 2013 10:35 marvellosity wrote:
On March 12 2013 10:34 Foolishness wrote:
I'm pretty sure cDgCorazon is town. At least right now he'd be a terrible lynch. Crossfire I don't know I haven't analyzed him yet. I actually think that marvellosity is mafia but I call him scum every game and I'm always wrong so that probably means as much as VE saying he doesn't post a lot.


that's because you've been mafia in every game we've played together, dear. infallible tell so far. do carry on down this road, though.

No one game I was town but you were town too.


which? there isn't one I remember unless you were smurfing.

I lied. It was whichever game you were smurfing. I wasn't actually playing I was coaching and reading along.

And no we're not killing Vivax anymore.


Oh wait - so he lied. BY HIS OWN ADMISSION, VIVAX. Look at the explanation - it was whichever game I was smurfing, LIX. Bullshit. Foolishness is NOT an atrocious player, and doesn't think that someone who tunnelled mafia all game, got elected mayor and lynched mafia, etc. was mafia. Foolishness is either very bad at mafia (here's a clue, he isn't) or he's lying about this too.

One more time for you, Vivax.

On March 12 2013 21:45 Vivax wrote:

He said he thinks you're scum but he actually always thinks you're scum so I don't see how he's lying to put suspicion on you. You're making up things. He just says he isn't sure about his read on you.

Don't see why would have to lie to say something like that it's not even to say that you're scum, it's actually a way of saying he doesn't know if you're scum.



On March 12 2013 11:09 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 10:38 marvellosity wrote:
On March 12 2013 10:37 Foolishness wrote:
On March 12 2013 10:35 marvellosity wrote:
On March 12 2013 10:34 Foolishness wrote:
I'm pretty sure cDgCorazon is town. At least right now he'd be a terrible lynch. Crossfire I don't know I haven't analyzed him yet. I actually think that marvellosity is mafia but I call him scum every game and I'm always wrong so that probably means as much as VE saying he doesn't post a lot.


that's because you've been mafia in every game we've played together, dear. infallible tell so far. do carry on down this road, though.

No one game I was town but you were town too.


which? there isn't one I remember unless you were smurfing.

I lied. It was whichever game you were smurfing. I wasn't actually playing I was coaching and reading along.

And no we're not killing Vivax anymore.


On March 12 2013 21:45 Vivax wrote:

so I don't see how he's lying

Don't see why would have to lie



On March 12 2013 11:09 Foolishness wrote:
I lied


How are you failing to read this badly?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 12 2013 13:08 GMT
#1578
On March 12 2013 21:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Prp is a good vig shot, Useless prp is scum prp.

Also Vivax, how sure are you that Foolishness is town? Also directing blue roles is utterly NOT COOL.


Look at his first post. I believe he chose me as scumread pretty much at random cause I'm a nice mislynch target, and VE followed it brainlessly, upon which Foolish asked him if he reads with his eyes or his mind. So yeah, it lured a few nice reactions (yours too I think you disappoint me Oats)

Then he comes in and actually defends me against marv/Ve who are not willing to listen to one of the strongest players of this forum. Marv's arguments for lynching me suck from A-Z so I'm currently leaning scum on the guy, he also says wrong things about what Foolishness said about him as pointed out in my recent post.

So well, based on him wanting to lynch yamato and defending me against players who are able to influence groupie-townies just with their name I'm pretty confident Foolish is town. If he wasn't he would be better off pushing my mislynch unison with the good-rep players.

Then he didn't agree on the Bugs lynch when scum knew that Bugs was town/something else so he could have simply laid back and watch the lynch.

As for the night actions you just made yourself ridiculous lol. Directing them is not cool but you ask for a prplhz shot yourself?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 12 2013 13:09 GMT
#1579
no, I just pointed out you can't read, Vivax.

learn to play. seriously.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 12 2013 13:10 GMT
#1580
@ marv

I skimmed the thread this morning before posting the post where I ask for medic protection on him so I must have missed that. Didn't even read properly yet cause I'm busy answering questions to Oats and calling S & B out.
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