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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 18 2013 21:58 GMT
#4381
disclaimer: the same applies to how I've played, but that's neither here nor there
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
March 18 2013 22:23 GMT
#4382
Wait, I thought you thought I was scum? Why would you say I played bad scum? Don't you think I played good scum?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 18 2013 22:26 GMT
#4383
If you're scum you're playing as I expected, if you're town I want to cry.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
March 18 2013 22:39 GMT
#4384
On March 12 2013 23:48 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 23:44 Vivax wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 12 2013 23:14 austinmcc wrote:
Okay, read through what I've missed once. WHAT IS GOING ON!?

I am not mayor. Boo. Vivax and marv are shitting up the thread. Boo.


Vivax, you looked bad yesterday, but in a way that made me feel townie on you. I'm used to seeing you take crap on D1 as town, and it reminded me of games where that's happened. But all this crap with you and foolishness and marv is ridiculous.

I'm going to throw away the bit where you didn't read posts, apparently, but made reads anyway. The part where you did not read posts, from a guy who doesn't have a lot of posts, but made reads anyway. One more time. The part of your read on Foolishness, the guy who hasn't been tremendously active, where you based your read on what you thought his posts might have said, but who cares because you don't need to read them.

Instead, what is this?
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 22:52 Vivax wrote:
Well I think Foolish' initial post was a way of fishing for reactions since I'm subject to mislynches and scum pushing me and townies failing to read me, he had basically given zero reasoning for doing what he did and it lured two suspicious sheeps:
VE and Oats quickly.
Within the last 5-10 pages, you (see above) based your read on Foolishness off what you thought his posts might have said. And now you're doing the same friggin thing. "I think Foolishness's initial post was this" when Foolishness said
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 16:13 Foolishness wrote:
I was gone and made an accusation based on what I skimmed through the thread at the time. Then when I came back to push the case further I realized I was wrong when I analyzed him. Which should be obvious given that I gave the proof.


Foolishness - "I skimmed the thread and made an accusation that I realized was wrong when I went back and looked."
Vivax - "I think Foolishness was trying to fish for reactions and he caught these two people."

You always look scummy, but this is just straight out making stuff up and not listening to reason when you're clearly wrong. I remember you playing/looking scummy as town, but not outright just doing stuff like this. Stuck believing that this is real scumminess from you, and not the way you look as town.

Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 22:57 Vivax wrote:
It's pretty scummy you are willing to risk one of the strongest town players to get NKd without even knowing what yamato's or my alignment is (and thus the validity of Foolishness' reads).

This is crap. In Bureaucracy, Foolishness was afk for a while, got crap for not making any cases or doing anything, came back and made a big case on Bill Murray, and throughout his time alive added some minor suspicions on BH and Palmar. BH and Palmar were both mafia, BM wasn't. Also, Foolishness was mafia. Basically, out of his mafia reads, 2/3 were right, and he was the head of the whole mafia. His alignment should absolutely not be predicated on whether his reads are good or not.




Well yeah that was my own interpretation of his initial post on me and is also consistent with the fact I didn't look at his later posts before calling for medics on him. Consider me to have written things being still mentally in the phase before the Bugs lynch where Foolish didn't explain all his actions.

Put circumstance on : "Vivax didn't read the thread properly after he went to sleep" and you will understand why I said these things. I might be lazy and bad for it but I'm not scum cause of it.


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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18330 Posts
March 19 2013 00:08 GMT
#4385
What, if anything was that supposed to do? Are you claiming plexa and the weird messages? Why did you say the nukes were real?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 19 2013 00:10 GMT
#4386
On March 19 2013 09:08 Acrofales wrote:
What, if anything was that supposed to do? Are you claiming plexa and the weird messages? Why did you say the nukes were real?

If i didnt know any better you was seeking information for hiro and his "role cop" ability
SCUM

DIE SCUM
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 19 2013 00:12 GMT
#4387
lol get a grip Mocsta
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 19 2013 02:01 GMT
#4388
Don't see a reason for HiroPro to fakeclaim a check on Vivax unless he was trying to save marv.

New thoughts were time-limited today.

Here's yamato at the start of D3:
On March 16 2013 19:53 yamato77 wrote:
austinmcc - lots of lengthy analyses, and has played the most pro-town of anyone in the game. no reason to suspect him.


Yamato during D3 does one thing and one thing only: Push marv. Incessantly, to the detriment of ANY other read, any other anything, marv marv marv marv marv is scum scum scum scum scum.

Among other things, marv was scum because he is a "wimpy baby" and town marv is not said wimpy baby. You can poke around their filters for the full conversation, but general arguments - + Show Spoiler +
On March 17 2013 05:29 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 05:27 marvellosity wrote:
On March 17 2013 05:23 yamato77 wrote:
On March 17 2013 05:14 marvellosity wrote:
On March 17 2013 05:07 yamato77 wrote:
Because town Marv isn't a fucking wimpy dumbass.

Come on.


nor is mafia marv you weirdo.

being indecisive isn't wimpy, it's about not knowing what the best lynch is. It's really easy to be decisive when you're just making shit up you know.

I clearly showed that your decision process involved blatant sheeping of town's other veterans, all of which you subsequently killed.

Also, you're not screaming at me for being stupid for accusing you, SO YOU'RE DEFINITELY MAFIA THIS TIME.


where was blatant sheeping of other town's veterans? i asked their opinions, yes...

since when is seeking the opinion of a strong player I believe to be town a mafia-tell?

anyway i'm not doing the whole screaming thing since kita came in and did his "i'm not your mom" thing. you'll have to accept this instead.

until you come up with something which remotely indicates i'm mafia, there's no point talking about your case. The strongest and best point that I'm mafia is that I tried to lynch a townie day 2. You either accept my push was genuine or you don't. All that other nonsense that's in your case says nothing about anything.

It says you have no fucking balls, no real reads.

Where in my case do you give a conclusive opinion about someone's alignment not named Foolishness? Where do you continue pushing them, as town Marv would do? Town Marv is not a fucking wimpy baby who appeals to the opinion of confirmed townies. Town Marv is actively scumhunting and pushes real lynches.

You have done none of that. You're not even doing it today. Your DP push is pathetic, limp-wristed. This is not town marvellosity.


It's not a good argument. Neither town marv nor scum marv is a "wimpy baby." yamato SHOULD know this. If he doesn't know it, he can go look it up, he can trust anyone who is saying he's making a false distinction here, etc. But he doesn't. He continues to press that marv is a wimpy baby, townmarv isn't a wimpy baby, therefore, scum marv

When I argue with him about that, remember, the guy who had the most pro-town posts at the start of the day, yamato responds with a variety of comments - + Show Spoiler +
On March 17 2013 05:40 yamato77 wrote:
Don't be dumb. You know town Marv is not a wimpy baby who doesn't even have reads.
On March 17 2013 05:41 yamato77 wrote:
SERIOUSLY

HOW ARE YOU LETTING SCUM MARV TELL YOU HE DOESN'T PUSH LYNCHES AS TOWN

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
On March 17 2013 05:48 yamato77 wrote:
This is a case of TOWN MARV USUALLY PUSHES LYNCHES

THIS MARV HAS PUSHED ZERO LYNCHES ALL THE WAY THROUGH

Stop over-thinking this. This IS NOT town marvellosity. I know it for a fact.
- culminating in the KEY comment,
On March 17 2013 05:52 yamato77 wrote:
Now I think you're mafia with him.

Ugh, this game.
In just yesterday, he had me as his most pro-town poster. Then, because I was also voting marv but doing so for different reasons and because I didn't agree with the distinction he was making (and still don't...does ANYONE?), he thinks I'm mafia as well. Includes me in his scum team later on:
On March 18 2013 02:43 yamato77 wrote:
Hiro, Marv, Moc, Austin and either Acro or Cora depending on reality of his flip.


yamato's reads bounce around. yamato tunnels. we tunneled each other momentarily the last game I played in with him. But this logic REALLY stinks, it's outside the norm.

(1) austin is town, marv is scum
(2) austin thinks marv is scum, but disagrees with ONE of my reasons
(3) therefore, austin is scum with marv

That makes no sense, especially when his reasoning was bs as to the baby point. What it reads like is that marv looks bad for still being around, and scum know that. They're starting to split on him, and yamato has taken an anti-marv stance, HARD, to the detriment of ANY actual scumhunting (if you check the full filter from yesterday, there are times where he accuses people of being scum, or of acting scummy, but he never really follows through on anything, doesn't do ANY analysis/hunting). But he still needs reads/mislynches/to look like he's doing something, so he flips himself from townie on me to scummy. Opens up more options for lynch, less people you have to agree with/talk to/not lynch. I hate that flip from him. It doesn't look like someone thinking critically about the game, it looks like someone tossing around reads with no basis (he may toss around a LOT of scumreads over the course of a game, but generally has better reasons).

The D1 shot isn't conclusive for me either way, I've generally been throwing it out. But he's been skating for a while now, as townies who had him as very scummy turn up dead (still assuming cora was townie given our NKs last night). Beyond marv/hiropro, he's a good option.


Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 19 2013 02:06 GMT
#4389
One other thought:

Whoever invented the magic marker, if you're town, to need to push the boundaries of what you can invent today. If possible we need to be able to check multiple people, give someone parity checks or phoenix wright powers. Maybe something even more OP like a counterpart to Prince of Darkness power where we could go from day to day and skip the night phase? If you can get it by, we need it, because that would seem to be one of the only reasons the game hasn't ended if cora was town - that power can turn things around. Stay hidden, give us something strong.

Fe fi fo fum.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 19 2013 02:11 GMT
#4390
On March 19 2013 11:06 austinmcc wrote:
One other thought:

Whoever invented the magic marker, if you're town, to need to push the boundaries of what you can invent today. If possible we need to be able to check multiple people, give someone parity checks or phoenix wright powers. Maybe something even more OP like a counterpart to Prince of Darkness power where we could go from day to day and skip the night phase? If you can get it by, we need it, because that would seem to be one of the only reasons the game hasn't ended if cora was town - that power can turn things around. Stay hidden, give us something strong.


I thought the magic marker was for the death frame?
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 19 2013 02:16 GMT
#4391
On March 19 2013 11:11 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 11:06 austinmcc wrote:
One other thought:

Whoever invented the magic marker, if you're town, to need to push the boundaries of what you can invent today. If possible we need to be able to check multiple people, give someone parity checks or phoenix wright powers. Maybe something even more OP like a counterpart to Prince of Darkness power where we could go from day to day and skip the night phase? If you can get it by, we need it, because that would seem to be one of the only reasons the game hasn't ended if cora was town - that power can turn things around. Stay hidden, give us something strong.


I thought the magic marker was for the death frame?

See quote ^

If cora was scum, then we're 8/5. We're dead in the water barring a powerful role, or multiple powerful roles. One indicator that, whatever the magic marker did, we have a townie inventor - inventions = strange stuff and a chance for us to pull this one back.

Paranoid thought is that we have something like Bill Murray the inventor, who can invent things that don't work the way he wants, malfunction after a short amount of time, can only invent scum-favored inventions, I dunno. Those things would run against him being one of the reasons we're still in this though, so I'm hopeful.
Fe fi fo fum.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 19 2013 02:30 GMT
#4392
On March 19 2013 11:06 austinmcc wrote:
One other thought:

Whoever invented the magic marker, if you're town, to need to push the boundaries of what you can invent today. If possible we need to be able to check multiple people, give someone parity checks or phoenix wright powers. Maybe something even more OP like a counterpart to Prince of Darkness power where we could go from day to day and skip the night phase? If you can get it by, we need it, because that would seem to be one of the only reasons the game hasn't ended if cora was town - that power can turn things around. Stay hidden, give us something strong.



So why wasnt anything invented yesterday? or the day before yesterday?
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 19 2013 02:32 GMT
#4393
On March 19 2013 11:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 11:06 austinmcc wrote:
One other thought:

Whoever invented the magic marker, if you're town, to need to push the boundaries of what you can invent today. If possible we need to be able to check multiple people, give someone parity checks or phoenix wright powers. Maybe something even more OP like a counterpart to Prince of Darkness power where we could go from day to day and skip the night phase? If you can get it by, we need it, because that would seem to be one of the only reasons the game hasn't ended if cora was town - that power can turn things around. Stay hidden, give us something strong.



So why wasnt anything invented yesterday? or the day before yesterday?

It hought u dont deal in WIFOM?

pointless question. we dont even know how the role works? duhhhhh
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 19 2013 02:40 GMT
#4394
Oats, IF the inventor is town, giving you an actual answer is not in our interest.
Fe fi fo fum.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 19 2013 02:40 GMT
#4395
On March 19 2013 11:32 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 11:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 19 2013 11:06 austinmcc wrote:
One other thought:

Whoever invented the magic marker, if you're town, to need to push the boundaries of what you can invent today. If possible we need to be able to check multiple people, give someone parity checks or phoenix wright powers. Maybe something even more OP like a counterpart to Prince of Darkness power where we could go from day to day and skip the night phase? If you can get it by, we need it, because that would seem to be one of the only reasons the game hasn't ended if cora was town - that power can turn things around. Stay hidden, give us something strong.



So why wasnt anything invented yesterday? or the day before yesterday?

It hought u dont deal in WIFOM?

pointless question. we dont even know how the role works? duhhhhh


Its NIGHT.

I WANT TO WIFOM ALL NIGHT AND YOU CANT STOP ME.

What if all the flips in this game were town :o
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 19 2013 02:41 GMT
#4396
EBWOP:
Appear to be townie
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 19 2013 02:46 GMT
#4397
On March 19 2013 11:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Its NIGHT.

I WANT TO WIFOM ALL NIGHT AND YOU CANT STOP ME.

Wrong answer

On March 16 2013 18:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
You are already WIFOMing :/

Especially by making conclusions about the 5KP.
Its a themed game, dont wifom.


Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 19 2013 02:52 GMT
#4398
On March 19 2013 11:46 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 11:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Its NIGHT.

I WANT TO WIFOM ALL NIGHT AND YOU CANT STOP ME.

Wrong answer

Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 18:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
You are already WIFOMing :/

Especially by making conclusions about the 5KP.
Its a themed game, dont wifom.



Come Mocsta, IT COULD BE OUR LAST NIGHT!!

wanna roleclaim?
(bluesniping = scummy)
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 19 2013 02:54 GMT
#4399
sure. u first
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 19 2013 02:59 GMT
#4400
In case I die but the game goes on. I rbd risk tonight.
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