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On March 18 2013 08:36 slOosh wrote:
Acro, if marv is town, how did your supposed scum team destroy a playerlist stacked with vets by lurking?
Only me and Vivax have been active this game, so between the two of us we fooled everyone and put us in LYLO at D3?
The marv problem isn't going to go away for the exact reason you stated - he can just WIFOM and say "oh scum wanted to do this", and it will get progressively more difficult to land the correct lynch as days go on, because a single misplaced vote can => last minute voteswing victory.
Please reconsider.
you've been active? you've still not answered my last post about you by the way.
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On March 18 2013 08:36 slOosh wrote:
Acro, if marv is town, how did your supposed scum team destroy a playerlist stacked with vets by lurking?
Only me and Vivax have been active this game, so between the two of us we fooled everyone and put us in LYLO at D3?
The marv problem isn't going to go away for the exact reason you stated - he can just WIFOM and say "oh scum wanted to do this", and it will get progressively more difficult to land the correct lynch as days go on, because a single misplaced vote can => last minute voteswing victory.
Please reconsider.
Or town fooled themselves? I've seen plenty of towns implode.
As for the latter argument you make: that goes for anybody, not just Marv.
I just don't think Marv is scum, so I think that lynching him now will lose us the game. Lynching him tomorrow makes more sense, because at some point scum have to kill him, because he IS capable of figuring out the game and scum cannot know when it will suddenly click and make it happen. Yes, they can leave him alive for wifom reasons and pray we lynch him, but if we don't, and he figures out the game, they are screwed. And that's why scum will want to shoot him if he's town. So the longer Marv is alive, the more likely it is that he is scum.
I thought my tipping point was the D3 policy lynch. I won't make the mistake of mentioning that again. This game, D3 is a bad time to lynch Marv.
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Corazon was totes mafia btw.
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Also, I think risk is probably town. I think risk is town off my own back, and Foolishness, the somehow town player, also thought risk was town.
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On March 18 2013 08:51 prplhz wrote:
marv
hiro/vivax go
Silence, don't talk up to your leader, you little barking dog.
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We need town yo agree or scum can just last minute switch and end it. Does anyone honestly think Cross is town?
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where is crossfire anyway
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On March 18 2013 08:52 Vivax wrote:Silence, don't talk up to your leader, you little barking dog.
pretty sure you've bitched repeatedly this game about comments like this, vivax.
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Hiro disappearing is shit.
I would remind everyone that supersoft said that Hiro was more likely to be mafia if Foolish flipped town. Then again... bleh. I hate how he disappeared after his roleclaim, we really need him to be here and fucking talk about it. That doesn't seem very town.
I literally can't understand why a mafia Hiro is fakeclaiming at this point to try to lynch Vivax though. Especially as Hiro was under very little suspicion of anybody. If Hiro is mafia then he's trying to divert a mafia lynch, and if that's the case I don't know who he's trying to divert if OFF, exactly (herp derp, it's not me).
I can't really make head nor tail of it without Hiro coming back and explaining exactly what it is he got back, if he received back what Vivax has said, etc. In the meanwhile I think DP is the best lynch (at least partly because between DP and risk, I'm pretty sure DP is the mafia between them)
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Also Stutters, why the hell do you think I'm mafia? Because I got Fool wrong?!
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On March 18 2013 08:17 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 08:06 austinmcc wrote:On March 18 2013 07:50 Crossfire99 wrote:
Why is marv scum? Explain in detail cause I don't see it.
marv is around at lylo. This should not be the case. EVEN IF he were town and wrong all game, he's one of the few, if not the only, remaining player who has been putting in effort and organizing town. Scum can't just rely on him being wrong forever, and if they took him out then town loses someone who puts in a ton of effort and is pushy with his votes - someone who is threatening to scum. I don't think Foolishness's case is slam-dunk, but as of today we know Foolishness was town. He was actually trying to trap marv and observe marv's reaction. I had Foolishness as scum, but we know that's not the case now. Nobody seems to be factoring this into things, but Foolishness's reads are now valid and worth considering. Some of it is personal stuff. There are some buddy-ish posts between marv and I, which I should have noticed more. Normally, if marv is town, we argue about a decent number of things. Here, I agreed with his Foolishness read, but he's been scummy on slOosh for a bit now and I've been townie. When marv is townie and I disagree with him, he's all over my ass for being an idiot (See: stupid ass LIX where marv is right about near EVERYTHING and I'm wrong about near EVERYTHING and he's calling me on it whenever I disagree with him). When marv is scum, he's often more buddyish and friendly, in my experience, at least towards me (again, this is specific-to-me stuff). We were together in a mason QT at the end of LV, friendly banter, and in Themed Mini he was kind of friendly and banter-y, although he was also just goofing off to some extent. All that explanation to say that marv has been more buddy-y with me this game than "austin is a dumbass," didn't get all up in my grill over our different slOosh reads, and ONLY started with the austin-is-an-idiot stuff today - + Show Spoiler +On March 17 2013 21:05 marvellosity wrote:
Players like austin are pretty awful and can't get a read right to save their life. austin only thinks i'm mafia when i'm town, and thinks i'm town when i'm mafia, apparently. His only comment is "mafia tricksy this game". Pathetic. He obviously has a complete inability to even understand basic meta arguments. That quote itself was kind of telling for me. I'm awful, I can't get a read right to save my life, etc. I have maybe more than my share of bad bad games, but I don't think I've played overly poorly this one. At the very least, I haven't done stupid shit yet, and that sadly counts as not overly poorly for me. But marv has only turned on that acidity NOW, not when we disagreed about stuff before, only now. Those are the sort of posts he should have been directing at me all game if he were town when we disagreed on slOosh or on cora or on other topics. Another minor thing, and maybe specific to me, is marv's reaction to this day. I remember Movie Star Mini Mafia as a game where marv and VE were at each other's throats for just about a full cycle. 1/2 the thread was them spamming attacks at each other, blah blah blah. marv was a vig and shot VE, who flipped town. marv was mopey for a while after that, because he'd been wrong, that's what he referenced earlier today when asking if I'd seen him have to regroup after being so wrong about his strongest reads/entire theory of the game. But marv's response THAT game was to go balls-to-the-wall and try to solve the game before he got NKed the next day. There was a google doc full of thoughts, reads on people, etc. etc. I forget the exact scenario, but he basically went and figured out more or less who the mafia were, and more or less specifically who the mafia RB was. Or some power role. That was like the only target that town could kill and still have a chance, it was a SK game and without that iirc the game came down to mafia vs. sk and town couldn't win. Anyhow, marv's reaction THIS game is different. I HAVE seen him go dark and be unconfident after having a strong read come up wrong. But when that happened, he popped back and basically solved the game as best he could. Here, that has NOT happened, in the least. He points to the lack of confidence, hoping I recognize that as the same as another town game, but he doesn't seem to remember that his reaction was two-part that game, and the other part is lacking here. /breath So, a bunch of little things, and then the whole glaring he's-still-alive-D3/lylo-and-scum-is-shooting-people-who-aren't-going-to-take-over-town-like-he-can. you're a really terrible, terrible player if you think i could pull this off as mafia i'm gonna mention it one more time, the longest filter in mafia history that i know of is my filter in hero (20) and I'm double that now. It's impossible for mafia to fake involvement for this long. Get a grip you stupid nonce. you're just waffling and paranoid and fucking stupid and you're not fucking stupid so it's very frustrating. What is "this"? Being involved, having a very large filter?
You don't get modkilled for posting a bunch as mafia. You slip up and get caught, you can't keep your stories straight, catch scum, not look weird for organizing town yet never getting NKed, you out yourself as mafia. There's no inherent limit to your posting, it's just easier to not be particularly active. Plus, while it's VERY ODD for mafia to have an enormous filter, it's also VERY ODD for town to have a filter that long. I know you post a lot, are active, but that's a huge amount for 3 days, and if you were town and that much more vocal than everyone else, mafia would have shot you.
Yeah, I'm paranoid about you. But there are a lot of little indicators that you're not town, and you're still alive. And if "I've been really active, can't be mafia" is all you've got to offer, then I'm not buying it, because a townie that active shouldn't still be alive, so it cuts both ways.
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OK Looked through Sloosh's filter like I promised oats.
Sloosh Is almost 100% town. I played scum with him to endgame in liquid city and he does not post the way he has been posting this game as scum. As scum his posting is a lot more, constricted? I guess. Not as free flowing. But in this game his posting seems to flow like 1000 times better than when he posted in liquid city. Also there is more fire to his posts this game than in LC.
The one thing that worries me is that in both liquid city and here he is lurking but that can be explained by time constraints and his posting here is a lot different in content and style.
So yeah. Town sloosh.
As to the hiro/vivax thing. Doesn't really make sense for scum to do what hiro did, so he probably got the check back. I don't know how accurate it is with a bazillion power roles in the game. So I would rather just lynch marv and then sort it out in the next cycle.
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i don't want to lynch any of fool's scum reads so maybe i'm horribly wrong
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Marv: Because you've been all over the fucking place and between you and Vivax I think you're more likely. Why are you all pushing DP over the sure lynch I'm Cross? You claimed to have voted Cross after DP in your filter yet the vote is MIA from the voting thread. What's going on?
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Why are you still pushing over the sure lynch in cross
Fucking Swype
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Wow. Stutters you are really stepping it up with those insightful posts I remember. Maybe you aren't scum after all :/
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Im here. I dont know exactly how vivaxs role works. I only get a rolename. Kita wouldnt tell me exactly how he determines the name but its based on whatever powers the person has.
I ched s&b because i didnt have a good read on him and the way that he went after bugs looked fake to me. I was going to check corazon at first but then i startrd thinking risk was palmar after he fid the fistpoynd thing and i couldnt come up with a persomality for corazon.
Unless you think im mafia you need to voye gor vivax right now. Also look at what he is doing right now. If he was town he would be voting for me but instead hes scared that hel get lynched if he tries to 1-1 eith me.
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hiro
do you ever post from not your phone?
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