Personality Mafia 2 - Page 196

On March 17 2013 01:34 slOosh wrote:
I eventually conceded marv was town given that everyone else in town thought so too. You can see this because when Foolishness comes in with his big post I get all excited (hey I'm not the only one!) and same when supersoft initially came in. It is incredibly difficult to mentally decide that you are correct and everyone else in town isn't. My confidence in my play isn't at that level.

The biggest information from the night kills was that Foolishness is town and that the bulk majority of his effort was directed at marv, and that cora was almost certainly town given the high KP.

Marv admits himself that he looks terrible if cora flips town. Well cora did flip town but marv made up stuff to say otherwise. I felt strongly against that, but again, everyone else in town thought so too.

On March 17 2013 01:34 slOosh wrote:
I eventually conceded marv was town given that everyone else in town thought so too. You can see this because when Foolishness comes in with his big post I get all excited (hey I'm not the only one!) and same when supersoft initially came in. It is incredibly difficult to mentally decide that you are correct and everyone else in town isn't. My confidence in my play isn't at that level.

The biggest information from the night kills was that Foolishness is town and that the bulk majority of his effort was directed at marv, and that cora was almost certainly town given the high KP.

Marv admits himself that he looks terrible if cora flips town. Well cora did flip town but marv made up stuff to say otherwise. I felt strongly against that, but again, everyone else in town thought so too.

On March 16 2013 05:37 slOosh wrote:
I think ... I figured out why I'm so bad ... the themed games screw with me. Nomination, PYPower, Liar Game ... all of it fits together... anyways,

Yea so I shut up and did some serious reading. It seems like different play fueled my paranoia of you into a scummy interpretation. For instance, upon rereading you are right that cora's behavior around lynch is strange, but I would say that it is knowing that he has the power to control the lynch but choosing to instead martyr that gives himself away, not the he knew he was gonna die (probably because I've seen plenty of townies pull this "kill me so with my flip you realize player X is scum", which it seemed like what he was doing).

Upon reading your two big posts I agree with and it was the kind of thing I was initially looking for when Foolishness initially made the case. When you picked out the kill order, I really believed that is a null point, because I saw a reason why I would want scum yamato flip first, and I think supersoft also said he wanted to flip yamato first (but didn't explain until later I think). What saw as scummy on review is that he went yamato => crossfire => marv, not yamato => marv => crossfire, because there would be no point in putting crossfire before marv. Again, same conclusion but using different information.

I apologize the undue stress placed upon you marv. It's just the misfortune of having a new category of player I call themedtownslOosh which seems to play pretty poorly. Yea. Foolishness scum. My bad. If I'm still unreadable and you still want to lynch me that's totally understandable. In the meantime I'm just gonna have to build my reads from base up, unless you want me to focus on something neutral / less talked about to see if we come to the same conclusions.

On March 17 2013 01:36 prplhz wrote:
yes you have, a roleclaim will make me reconsider. do you have any reason not to roleclaim?

On March 17 2013 01:35 Oatsmaster wrote:


What are you saying here? That everyone sheeped marv so his play is invaild? huh?

On March 17 2013 01:39 slOosh wrote:
Yea, marv is just splitting hairs, and isn't doing it for the purpose of getting a correct lynch. Doy.

On March 17 2013 01:37 slOosh wrote:

I'm not commenting on marv's play here, I'm commenting on my own.

On March 17 2013 01:37 marvellosity wrote:


I have no reason to roleclaim, and if you're dumb enough to vote for me on the basis of that, your vote isn't worth worrying about anyway.

On March 17 2013 01:41 prplhz wrote:

seriously.

if you're town, you're dead tonight. i don't believe in any more protective roles. you also don't have a power yourself to survive because you would have used that on day1.

i'd like to know your role so i can see if it makes sense to me how you have used it so far.

so can we please see a roleclaim. there's no reason not to.

On March 17 2013 01:36 prplhz wrote:
yes you have, a roleclaim will make me reconsider. do you have any reason not to roleclaim?

On March 17 2013 01:46 Acrofales wrote:

Why? What about Marv's roleclaim is going to make you reconsider?

Actually there is one thing: Marv claimed he was protecting DI, yet DI ended up dead. Either someone shot Marv despite it being completely obvious DI had some form of protection on him (and scum therefore guessed correctly about exactly how DI's role worked), DI was doublestacked and there were 6!!! shots fired last night, or DI was not protected.

Marv, can you explain what you did last night?

On March 17 2013 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote:


So how in any way is this related to marv alignment?
You want to get him lynched, you got to put in the work.

On March 17 2013 01:46 Acrofales wrote:

Why? What about Marv's roleclaim is going to make you reconsider?

Actually there is one thing: Marv claimed he was protecting DI, yet DI ended up dead. Either someone shot Marv despite it being completely obvious DI had some form of protection on him (and scum therefore guessed correctly about exactly how DI's role worked), DI was doublestacked and there were 6!!! shots fired last night, or DI was not protected.

Marv, can you explain what you did last night?