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On March 15 2013 01:23 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 01:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 15 2013 01:11 DarthPunk wrote:
Why is Oats calling Foolishness Town whilst continuing to have his vote parked on foolishness? Why are you not reading the thread? On March 15 2013 00:47 DarthPunk wrote:
So vivax. Why are you answering questions for oats? Oats are you calling yamato scum? yes. On March 15 2013 01:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Oats what is your case on Yamato? Why did you try and imply that Yamato was scum without actually saying it? Why did your town read on Yamato from earlier change? Why have you ignored every question I have asked you? I dont have a case. I didnt imply so I said that he could be an alternative lynch target. My read changed cause my read on foolishness changed. You only asked one question. Hmm. I don't think I have read or could read anything that would rationalise a vote on someone you have called town a few times now. But forgive me. I replaced in 2 hours ago and have not yet managed to read every post in this thread. That is obviously my fault so I will try and do better. You don't have a 'case'. You didn't even IMPLY having a case (although in my opinion that is implied when calling for a lynch) but you believe that yamato is scum correct? You surely must to propose him as a lynch target. If that is the case then you must have a reason for thinking he is scum. What is the reason? Why did you try to imply Yamato was scum without saying so when he stated he skimmed the thread?
Oh that thing? It was fishing for a reaction.
I dont want to change my vote cause I cant really be bothered. So sue me.
I thought you were talking about marv+fool town who now?
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On March 15 2013 01:06 marvellosity wrote:
The point about Crossfire, s&b, is that he refuses to account for the 'townie' things that Crossfire has done. If his case had explained why the things that the rest of the thread perceived as townie (last minute deadline, nuke reaction) then I'd understand.
he doesn't "refuse" to account for them, he just doesn't account for them. it makes his case less persuasive than if he had found a way to explain those actions as coming from scum motivation. but the post wasn't a case on crossfire, it was a case on you, and the crossfire thing was almost an aside.
Actually, this might be a tell as well - I just looked through all his town games for the past ~ two years and I can't find any where he's made a "big case post" that wasn't just focused on a single case about a single person. The closest he's come was a big "reads in case I die" post in like TL L. I assume that's because he knows that's how to best lead a town into agreeing with you on a lynch. However, as scum he has included secondary cases in his "big case post" in Parallel Worlds, for example.
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On March 15 2013 01:08 marvellosity wrote:
strongandbig, do you contend then that mafia are more impulsive than town with their actions? I think you know that's blatantly untrue.
You know that's untrue because of how crafted your miller claim was in Death Note. You know this is true because you're more impulsive as town yourself.
im saying impulsiveness depends more on the player than their alignment.
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On March 15 2013 01:09 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 01:07 strongandbig wrote:On March 15 2013 00:39 HiroPro wrote:On March 15 2013 00:28 yamato77 wrote:On March 15 2013 00:23 HiroPro wrote:
i don't think foolishness is unlynchable. he is either lying to stall time or he has some kind of limited power similar to what prplhz said he had.
his case on marvel is mostly just either misrepresentation or does not even have anything to do with being mafia. notice how he ignores the game that is similar in style to this (LVIII) and instead focuses on a much older game, notice how he cherrypicks posts from parallel worlds that appear very calm and collected in the "trap" part and ignores the more emotional stuff.
kill foolishness.
also does anyone even remember that stutters is playing in this game? he has not mentioned a single thing about what is going on today or taken a stance on whether foolishness is scum, only dropped in twice to say nothing. Yes, Foolish dies today. I think Stutters being afk is standard Stutters, but I will give his filter a look see. You have been pushing him all game. What are some other reads. If you take the Foolish thing out of the equation, how do you view Marvellosity? marvel is town to me even if i ignore foolishness being there. he just has much more interest when he is town and feels genuine. I don't believe that you can accurately read marv based only on feelings and interest. i've been in or read games with him where he was scum and seemed totally interested and engaged. this just means you're not very good dear.
ouch, burned
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On March 15 2013 01:25 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 01:08 marvellosity wrote:
strongandbig, do you contend then that mafia are more impulsive than town with their actions? I think you know that's blatantly untrue.
You know that's untrue because of how crafted your miller claim was in Death Note. You know this is true because you're more impulsive as town yourself. im saying impulsiveness depends more on the player than their alignment.
No, townies are far more impulsive than mafia, and if you think otherwise you're just wrong. Citing drazerk does not help your argument here  Foolishness is arguing that impulsiveness = mafiatrait, when that's simply incorrect.
Especially in yamato's case, where he is far more impulsive as town, as can be verified reading through any of his games.
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On March 15 2013 01:19 marvellosity wrote:Just to elaborate on what I said about s&b. This is mafia s&b on Day 1 of Chrono Trigger: Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 08:22 strongandbig wrote:On November 22 2012 04:44 Toadesstern wrote:
Hey S&B what's your take on how Marv's acting so far? oh also I forgot to answer this I liked his takedown of cave johnson I also think marv is way more egotistical as scum than he is as town, it's something about the "bwahahaha fools i'll kill you all" mentality. so the fact that he's not running for king of daventry makes me think he's probably town.
Why do you ask about marv specifically? why ask me? Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 03:35 strongandbig wrote:
holy shit
this thread
Anyone interested in a late switch to Marv? I've got a pretty strong town read on him right now, and I can't say that I like Syllo's election platform.
no, tbh i stand by what i said there 100%.
in the situation where there's a mayoral election between you and veterans who you respect, i expect you as scum to be much more likely to run for mayor than you as town.
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On March 15 2013 01:25 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 01:06 marvellosity wrote:
The point about Crossfire, s&b, is that he refuses to account for the 'townie' things that Crossfire has done. If his case had explained why the things that the rest of the thread perceived as townie (last minute deadline, nuke reaction) then I'd understand. he doesn't "refuse" to account for them, he just doesn't account for them. it makes his case less persuasive than if he had found a way to explain those actions as coming from scum motivation. but the post wasn't a case on crossfire, it was a case on you, and the crossfire thing was almost an aside. Actually, this might be a tell as well - I just looked through all his town games for the past ~ two years and I can't find any where he's made a "big case post" that wasn't just focused on a single case about a single person. The closest he's come was a big "reads in case I die" post in like TL L. I assume that's because he knows that's how to best lead a town into agreeing with you on a lynch. However, as scum he has included secondary cases in his "big case post" in Parallel Worlds, for example.
Yes, I noticed that too, but it didn't feel like a strong point to bring up.
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On March 15 2013 01:25 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 01:23 DarthPunk wrote:On March 15 2013 01:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 15 2013 01:11 DarthPunk wrote:
Why is Oats calling Foolishness Town whilst continuing to have his vote parked on foolishness? Why are you not reading the thread? On March 15 2013 00:47 DarthPunk wrote:
So vivax. Why are you answering questions for oats? Oats are you calling yamato scum? yes. On March 15 2013 01:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Oats what is your case on Yamato? Why did you try and imply that Yamato was scum without actually saying it? Why did your town read on Yamato from earlier change? Why have you ignored every question I have asked you? I dont have a case. I didnt imply so I said that he could be an alternative lynch target. My read changed cause my read on foolishness changed. You only asked one question. Hmm. I don't think I have read or could read anything that would rationalise a vote on someone you have called town a few times now. But forgive me. I replaced in 2 hours ago and have not yet managed to read every post in this thread. That is obviously my fault so I will try and do better. You don't have a 'case'. You didn't even IMPLY having a case (although in my opinion that is implied when calling for a lynch) but you believe that yamato is scum correct? You surely must to propose him as a lynch target. If that is the case then you must have a reason for thinking he is scum. What is the reason? Why did you try to imply Yamato was scum without saying so when he stated he skimmed the thread? Oh that thing? It was fishing for a reaction. I dont want to change my vote cause I cant really be bothered. So sue me. I thought you were talking about marv+fool town who now?
I don't know if it is just me but I don't understand the last part. Also if you could direct me to the reason behind your call to vote Yamato I would appreciate it.
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On March 15 2013 01:29 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 01:25 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 15 2013 01:23 DarthPunk wrote:On March 15 2013 01:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 15 2013 01:11 DarthPunk wrote:
Why is Oats calling Foolishness Town whilst continuing to have his vote parked on foolishness? Why are you not reading the thread? On March 15 2013 00:47 DarthPunk wrote:
So vivax. Why are you answering questions for oats? Oats are you calling yamato scum? yes. On March 15 2013 01:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Oats what is your case on Yamato? Why did you try and imply that Yamato was scum without actually saying it? Why did your town read on Yamato from earlier change? Why have you ignored every question I have asked you? I dont have a case. I didnt imply so I said that he could be an alternative lynch target. My read changed cause my read on foolishness changed. You only asked one question. Hmm. I don't think I have read or could read anything that would rationalise a vote on someone you have called town a few times now. But forgive me. I replaced in 2 hours ago and have not yet managed to read every post in this thread. That is obviously my fault so I will try and do better. You don't have a 'case'. You didn't even IMPLY having a case (although in my opinion that is implied when calling for a lynch) but you believe that yamato is scum correct? You surely must to propose him as a lynch target. If that is the case then you must have a reason for thinking he is scum. What is the reason? Why did you try to imply Yamato was scum without saying so when he stated he skimmed the thread? Oh that thing? It was fishing for a reaction. I dont want to change my vote cause I cant really be bothered. So sue me. I thought you were talking about marv+fool town who now? I don't know if it is just me but I don't understand the last part. Also if you could direct me to the reason behind your call to vote Yamato I would appreciate it.
Hey qtpie, care to take an actual stand on Foolishness rather than the supporting cast?
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Anywhoo, going to da nightshifts
Miiight pop in @2am or something, or I'll just go to sleep which is also plausible.
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On March 15 2013 01:30 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 01:29 DarthPunk wrote:On March 15 2013 01:25 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 15 2013 01:23 DarthPunk wrote:On March 15 2013 01:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 15 2013 01:11 DarthPunk wrote:
Why is Oats calling Foolishness Town whilst continuing to have his vote parked on foolishness? Why are you not reading the thread? On March 15 2013 00:47 DarthPunk wrote:
So vivax. Why are you answering questions for oats? Oats are you calling yamato scum? yes. On March 15 2013 01:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Oats what is your case on Yamato? Why did you try and imply that Yamato was scum without actually saying it? Why did your town read on Yamato from earlier change? Why have you ignored every question I have asked you? I dont have a case. I didnt imply so I said that he could be an alternative lynch target. My read changed cause my read on foolishness changed. You only asked one question. Hmm. I don't think I have read or could read anything that would rationalise a vote on someone you have called town a few times now. But forgive me. I replaced in 2 hours ago and have not yet managed to read every post in this thread. That is obviously my fault so I will try and do better. You don't have a 'case'. You didn't even IMPLY having a case (although in my opinion that is implied when calling for a lynch) but you believe that yamato is scum correct? You surely must to propose him as a lynch target. If that is the case then you must have a reason for thinking he is scum. What is the reason? Why did you try to imply Yamato was scum without saying so when he stated he skimmed the thread? Oh that thing? It was fishing for a reaction. I dont want to change my vote cause I cant really be bothered. So sue me. I thought you were talking about marv+fool town who now? I don't know if it is just me but I don't understand the last part. Also if you could direct me to the reason behind your call to vote Yamato I would appreciate it. Hey qtpie, care to take an actual stand on Foolishness rather than the supporting cast?
No not yet.
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On March 15 2013 01:29 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 01:25 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 15 2013 01:23 DarthPunk wrote:On March 15 2013 01:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 15 2013 01:11 DarthPunk wrote:
Why is Oats calling Foolishness Town whilst continuing to have his vote parked on foolishness? Why are you not reading the thread? On March 15 2013 00:47 DarthPunk wrote:
So vivax. Why are you answering questions for oats? Oats are you calling yamato scum? yes. On March 15 2013 01:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Oats what is your case on Yamato? Why did you try and imply that Yamato was scum without actually saying it? Why did your town read on Yamato from earlier change? Why have you ignored every question I have asked you? I dont have a case. I didnt imply so I said that he could be an alternative lynch target. My read changed cause my read on foolishness changed. You only asked one question. Hmm. I don't think I have read or could read anything that would rationalise a vote on someone you have called town a few times now. But forgive me. I replaced in 2 hours ago and have not yet managed to read every post in this thread. That is obviously my fault so I will try and do better. You don't have a 'case'. You didn't even IMPLY having a case (although in my opinion that is implied when calling for a lynch) but you believe that yamato is scum correct? You surely must to propose him as a lynch target. If that is the case then you must have a reason for thinking he is scum. What is the reason? Why did you try to imply Yamato was scum without saying so when he stated he skimmed the thread? Oh that thing? It was fishing for a reaction. I dont want to change my vote cause I cant really be bothered. So sue me. I thought you were talking about marv+fool town who now? I don't know if it is just me but I don't understand the last part. Also if you could direct me to the reason behind your call to vote Yamato I would appreciate it.
This is the post I was talking about in the last part
On March 15 2013 00:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Is there a situation that both Foolishness and Marv are town and that we need to look elsewhere?
Like, YAMATO!!!!
Actually fuck this. Too much in favor of foolishness being scum right now.
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On March 15 2013 01:34 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 01:29 DarthPunk wrote:On March 15 2013 01:25 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 15 2013 01:23 DarthPunk wrote:On March 15 2013 01:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 15 2013 01:11 DarthPunk wrote:
Why is Oats calling Foolishness Town whilst continuing to have his vote parked on foolishness? Why are you not reading the thread? On March 15 2013 00:47 DarthPunk wrote:
So vivax. Why are you answering questions for oats? Oats are you calling yamato scum? yes. On March 15 2013 01:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Oats what is your case on Yamato? Why did you try and imply that Yamato was scum without actually saying it? Why did your town read on Yamato from earlier change? Why have you ignored every question I have asked you? I dont have a case. I didnt imply so I said that he could be an alternative lynch target. My read changed cause my read on foolishness changed. You only asked one question. Hmm. I don't think I have read or could read anything that would rationalise a vote on someone you have called town a few times now. But forgive me. I replaced in 2 hours ago and have not yet managed to read every post in this thread. That is obviously my fault so I will try and do better. You don't have a 'case'. You didn't even IMPLY having a case (although in my opinion that is implied when calling for a lynch) but you believe that yamato is scum correct? You surely must to propose him as a lynch target. If that is the case then you must have a reason for thinking he is scum. What is the reason? Why did you try to imply Yamato was scum without saying so when he stated he skimmed the thread? Oh that thing? It was fishing for a reaction. I dont want to change my vote cause I cant really be bothered. So sue me. I thought you were talking about marv+fool town who now? I don't know if it is just me but I don't understand the last part. Also if you could direct me to the reason behind your call to vote Yamato I would appreciate it. This is the post I was talking about in the last part Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 00:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Is there a situation that both Foolishness and Marv are town and that we need to look elsewhere?
Like, YAMATO!!!!
Actually fuck this. Too much in favor of foolishness being scum right now.
Please explain your flippyfloppy Oats, I don't like it much. You've gone scum-town-scum with no reason whatsoever.
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On March 15 2013 01:35 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 01:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 15 2013 01:29 DarthPunk wrote:On March 15 2013 01:25 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 15 2013 01:23 DarthPunk wrote:On March 15 2013 01:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 15 2013 01:11 DarthPunk wrote:
Why is Oats calling Foolishness Town whilst continuing to have his vote parked on foolishness? Why are you not reading the thread? On March 15 2013 00:47 DarthPunk wrote:
So vivax. Why are you answering questions for oats? Oats are you calling yamato scum? yes. On March 15 2013 01:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Oats what is your case on Yamato? Why did you try and imply that Yamato was scum without actually saying it? Why did your town read on Yamato from earlier change? Why have you ignored every question I have asked you? I dont have a case. I didnt imply so I said that he could be an alternative lynch target. My read changed cause my read on foolishness changed. You only asked one question. Hmm. I don't think I have read or could read anything that would rationalise a vote on someone you have called town a few times now. But forgive me. I replaced in 2 hours ago and have not yet managed to read every post in this thread. That is obviously my fault so I will try and do better. You don't have a 'case'. You didn't even IMPLY having a case (although in my opinion that is implied when calling for a lynch) but you believe that yamato is scum correct? You surely must to propose him as a lynch target. If that is the case then you must have a reason for thinking he is scum. What is the reason? Why did you try to imply Yamato was scum without saying so when he stated he skimmed the thread? Oh that thing? It was fishing for a reaction. I dont want to change my vote cause I cant really be bothered. So sue me. I thought you were talking about marv+fool town who now? I don't know if it is just me but I don't understand the last part. Also if you could direct me to the reason behind your call to vote Yamato I would appreciate it. This is the post I was talking about in the last part On March 15 2013 00:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Is there a situation that both Foolishness and Marv are town and that we need to look elsewhere?
Like, YAMATO!!!!
Actually fuck this. Too much in favor of foolishness being scum right now. Please explain your flippyfloppy Oats, I don't like it much. You've gone scum-town-scum with no reason whatsoever.
Scum Before huge post.
Town after rereading huge post and it made a lot of sense
Scum after meta stuff and the fact that he didnt mention crossfire's other stuff. Also because if he is town, scum is going all in = not so good move I think.
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On March 15 2013 01:34 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 01:29 DarthPunk wrote:On March 15 2013 01:25 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 15 2013 01:23 DarthPunk wrote:On March 15 2013 01:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 15 2013 01:11 DarthPunk wrote:
Why is Oats calling Foolishness Town whilst continuing to have his vote parked on foolishness? Why are you not reading the thread? On March 15 2013 00:47 DarthPunk wrote:
So vivax. Why are you answering questions for oats? Oats are you calling yamato scum? yes. On March 15 2013 01:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Oats what is your case on Yamato? Why did you try and imply that Yamato was scum without actually saying it? Why did your town read on Yamato from earlier change? Why have you ignored every question I have asked you? I dont have a case. I didnt imply so I said that he could be an alternative lynch target. My read changed cause my read on foolishness changed. You only asked one question. Hmm. I don't think I have read or could read anything that would rationalise a vote on someone you have called town a few times now. But forgive me. I replaced in 2 hours ago and have not yet managed to read every post in this thread. That is obviously my fault so I will try and do better. You don't have a 'case'. You didn't even IMPLY having a case (although in my opinion that is implied when calling for a lynch) but you believe that yamato is scum correct? You surely must to propose him as a lynch target. If that is the case then you must have a reason for thinking he is scum. What is the reason? Why did you try to imply Yamato was scum without saying so when he stated he skimmed the thread? Oh that thing? It was fishing for a reaction. I dont want to change my vote cause I cant really be bothered. So sue me. I thought you were talking about marv+fool town who now? I don't know if it is just me but I don't understand the last part. Also if you could direct me to the reason behind your call to vote Yamato I would appreciate it. This is the post I was talking about in the last part Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 00:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Is there a situation that both Foolishness and Marv are town and that we need to look elsewhere?
Like, YAMATO!!!!
Actually fuck this. Too much in favor of foolishness being scum right now.
why is Yamato scum?
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Hey marv. I am not going to get through everything I need to and as it's 4am I am rather tired. Could you be a dear and link me your case on foolishness and the main rebuttal?
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On March 15 2013 01:38 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 01:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 15 2013 01:29 DarthPunk wrote:On March 15 2013 01:25 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 15 2013 01:23 DarthPunk wrote:On March 15 2013 01:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 15 2013 01:11 DarthPunk wrote:
Why is Oats calling Foolishness Town whilst continuing to have his vote parked on foolishness? Why are you not reading the thread? On March 15 2013 00:47 DarthPunk wrote:
So vivax. Why are you answering questions for oats? Oats are you calling yamato scum? yes. On March 15 2013 01:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Oats what is your case on Yamato? Why did you try and imply that Yamato was scum without actually saying it? Why did your town read on Yamato from earlier change? Why have you ignored every question I have asked you? I dont have a case. I didnt imply so I said that he could be an alternative lynch target. My read changed cause my read on foolishness changed. You only asked one question. Hmm. I don't think I have read or could read anything that would rationalise a vote on someone you have called town a few times now. But forgive me. I replaced in 2 hours ago and have not yet managed to read every post in this thread. That is obviously my fault so I will try and do better. You don't have a 'case'. You didn't even IMPLY having a case (although in my opinion that is implied when calling for a lynch) but you believe that yamato is scum correct? You surely must to propose him as a lynch target. If that is the case then you must have a reason for thinking he is scum. What is the reason? Why did you try to imply Yamato was scum without saying so when he stated he skimmed the thread? Oh that thing? It was fishing for a reaction. I dont want to change my vote cause I cant really be bothered. So sue me. I thought you were talking about marv+fool town who now? I don't know if it is just me but I don't understand the last part. Also if you could direct me to the reason behind your call to vote Yamato I would appreciate it. This is the post I was talking about in the last part On March 15 2013 00:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Is there a situation that both Foolishness and Marv are town and that we need to look elsewhere?
Like, YAMATO!!!!
Actually fuck this. Too much in favor of foolishness being scum right now. why is Yamato scum?
Ah yes this too.
After further deliberation. With help from people saying that town are impulsive and scum are not, especially with the plethora of day vig targets, especially with kurumi shitting up the thread.
Yamato is town. Which makes foolishness scum
180ing LIKE A BOSS.
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On March 15 2013 01:43 DarthPunk wrote:
Hey marv. I am not going to get through everything I need to and as it's 4am I am rather tired. Could you be a dear and link me your case on foolishness and the main rebuttal?
The case on Foolish as it stands is littered across all my posts, and Hiro's posts, in the thread. Foolish's main post is about page 131. My rebuttal to half of it is a few pages ago.
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Oats if Foolish speaks the truth about being unlynchable then scum doesn't care if it's no-lynch today but town will still be in the dark after this day without having accomplished anything.
On the other hand they will have some more people to kill off tonight. Hint: Marv not dying + he has the excuse for it since Dandel keeps saying he will protect him.
If I can give you a hint for posting: Don't fall victim to get yourself dragged too much into conversations (It's ok at times). Do your own thing, don't get pulled into longish conversations about single posts like marv and darth try to get you into.
Go dive some filters, look at important moments during the game (lynch, nuke firing, night hits and their targets).
I often ask quick series of questions too (when I shouldn't) , it's normal at times but there are a lot of people in this game who only lurk in the last page of the game and don't pull out stuff from earlier pages. Those are people like marv and Dandel.
There have been a few times where the game has been properly readable cause people stick to writing long posts. Austin hardly ever spams, he's a fine poster.
This as future guideline if you have comments a la "Oh well you did that too in this and this game" then keep them to yourself we look forward here when it comes to pushing useful play.
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