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On March 14 2013 22:59 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 22:55 Acrofales wrote:
Come on guys, Cora openly slipped that he's the politician and he stole sloosh's vote.
Even if politician could be a town role this game, that use of it is worse than anything Yamato did.
The only town motivation I can think of for using it, is to use it on a strong scumread. Sloosh has never been a strong scumread of Cora's.
KILL Cora I'd missed this. Or at least glossed over it. Corazon should have been stealing Mocsta's vote. Or Acrofales' vote. Or my vote. Why is he stealing someone's vote who already wants to kill yamato?
Acro brought this up. I'm gonna post it again even though I only just posted it because it's really important.
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On March 14 2013 15:43 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 12:12 austinmcc wrote:
Digesting. One small initial thought.
I think Foolishness's post reads well. I also think that he's not being entirely truthful. The read on marv feels legitimate, but him being a batman-posting/unlynchable/1-shot vigi? That's bs. I don't trust that at all. Makes me not trust the post as a whole, because if he's actually coming clean here and making a big towncase, he's not doing a good job of it when he's also hiding/altering information. Can I prove that he's lying? Not really. Does it seem that it is? Yeah. It feels like he's crafting a role to explain all of his behavior, and that doesn't pass the smell test with me. you don't deserve to win. Really. Okay people. Keep sheeping Marv. Marv may be town. But Foolishness definetely is town. Yamato is the first lynch. Crossfire the second. If marv keeps protecting them and if he doesnt see that foolish is town, you must kill him, too. Here's what this bit comes down to:
Do you believe Foolishness is a batman-posting-restriction/unlynchable/fake-1-shot-vigi? Do you think Foolishness received a PM telling him that he was all of those things? If you do, I think you're ridiculous. If you don't, then Foolishness's big reputation-restoration post isn't fully truthful.
If nothing else, this line:On a side note, my actions to kill yamato were what I perceived to be the best course to get people to see that I'm town considering that so many people are suspicious of me. I vigi'd him last night so that people could see I was serious. When that didn't happen I nuked him almost immediately (after ruling out Ver and marvellosity as the other candidates). Since I can't be lynched I thought that this would again put me back on track and get people to listen to me. Read this bit Supersoft. Read this bit anyone who thinks Foolishness posted a big ol' pile of truthful thoughts.
(1) I tried to kill yamato 2x "to get people to see that I'm town"
(2) "Since I can't be lynched I thought that this would again put me back on track and get people to listen to me"
Read (2) again. Read (2) again, slowly. Again, he's saying he can't be lynched. Yet he's worried about getting town to listen to him. And he's admitting that he hasn't had much time to play, hasn't been able to analyze everything. There are TWO problems there.
If he can't be lynched, then his townieness is ALMOST 100% proven when he doesn't get lynched. How the balls do you balance a game with a scum player who cannot be lynched? Role =/= alignment, but some roles are very, very telling because they simply can't be balanced for the other side. See the talk about phoenix wright or whatever from earlier. Unlynchable is NOT a balanced mechanic, and if he's so sure he won't be lynched, then his townieness will be proven out. He's so worried about getting town cred and about being listened to, yet he's conveniently forgotten that he is claiming that he will emerge from a lynch unscathed, immediately FORCING people to take him much more serious and townily. Does not compute.
Look at you. You didn't post end-of-night reads, despite thinking you might get shot, because you knew you'd be back today. Foolishness claims to have a PM that says "you can't be lynched, bro," and yet he's not taking that into account in his play. He's lying. He's lying in his come-clean post. That ain't town.
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On March 14 2013 23:02 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 23:01 Dandel Ion wrote:
marv do you have to switch powers every time?
feel free to not answer. I probably won't survive that long, so I'll answer. I have 5 distinct powers which I can only use once.
you know....
*hinthint*
*wink*
Dohoho.
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On March 14 2013 23:03 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 22:59 marvellosity wrote:On March 14 2013 22:55 Acrofales wrote:
Come on guys, Cora openly slipped that he's the politician and he stole sloosh's vote.
Even if politician could be a town role this game, that use of it is worse than anything Yamato did.
The only town motivation I can think of for using it, is to use it on a strong scumread. Sloosh has never been a strong scumread of Cora's.
KILL Cora I'd missed this. Or at least glossed over it. Corazon should have been stealing Mocsta's vote. Or Acrofales' vote. Or my vote. Why is he stealing someone's vote who already wants to kill yamato? Acro brought this up. I'm gonna post it again even though I only just posted it because it's really important.
he never mentioned the steal correct?
i cant see it in his filter.
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a disinterested 3rd party made me a pretty picture
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On March 14 2013 23:04 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 23:03 marvellosity wrote:On March 14 2013 22:59 marvellosity wrote:On March 14 2013 22:55 Acrofales wrote:
Come on guys, Cora openly slipped that he's the politician and he stole sloosh's vote.
Even if politician could be a town role this game, that use of it is worse than anything Yamato did.
The only town motivation I can think of for using it, is to use it on a strong scumread. Sloosh has never been a strong scumread of Cora's.
KILL Cora I'd missed this. Or at least glossed over it. Corazon should have been stealing Mocsta's vote. Or Acrofales' vote. Or my vote. Why is he stealing someone's vote who already wants to kill yamato? Acro brought this up. I'm gonna post it again even though I only just posted it because it's really important. he never mentioned the steal correct? i cant see it in his filter.
On March 14 2013 12:37 cDgCorazon wrote:
Well, since Yamato is going to be nuked today by a North Korean nuke...
##Vote: Yamato
##Sloosh's Vote: Yamato
Once again, my plan is to lynch Yamato. He is scum and lynching him will get scum down to 2 KP. It can't get more simpler than that.
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On March 14 2013 23:03 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 15:43 supersoft wrote:On March 14 2013 12:12 austinmcc wrote:
Digesting. One small initial thought.
I think Foolishness's post reads well. I also think that he's not being entirely truthful. The read on marv feels legitimate, but him being a batman-posting/unlynchable/1-shot vigi? That's bs. I don't trust that at all. Makes me not trust the post as a whole, because if he's actually coming clean here and making a big towncase, he's not doing a good job of it when he's also hiding/altering information. Can I prove that he's lying? Not really. Does it seem that it is? Yeah. It feels like he's crafting a role to explain all of his behavior, and that doesn't pass the smell test with me. you don't deserve to win. Really. Okay people. Keep sheeping Marv. Marv may be town. But Foolishness definetely is town. Yamato is the first lynch. Crossfire the second. If marv keeps protecting them and if he doesnt see that foolish is town, you must kill him, too. Here's what this bit comes down to: Do you believe Foolishness is a batman-posting-restriction/unlynchable/fake-1-shot-vigi? Do you think Foolishness received a PM telling him that he was all of those things? If you do, I think you're ridiculous. If you don't, then Foolishness's big reputation-restoration post isn't fully truthful. If nothing else, this line: Show nested quote +On a side note, my actions to kill yamato were what I perceived to be the best course to get people to see that I'm town considering that so many people are suspicious of me. I vigi'd him last night so that people could see I was serious. When that didn't happen I nuked him almost immediately (after ruling out Ver and marvellosity as the other candidates). Since I can't be lynched I thought that this would again put me back on track and get people to listen to me. Read this bit Supersoft. Read this bit anyone who thinks Foolishness posted a big ol' pile of truthful thoughts. (1) I tried to kill yamato 2x "to get people to see that I'm town" (2) "Since I can't be lynched I thought that this would again put me back on track and get people to listen to me" Read (2) again. Read (2) again, slowly. Again, he's saying he can't be lynched. Yet he's worried about getting town to listen to him. And he's admitting that he hasn't had much time to play, hasn't been able to analyze everything. There are TWO problems there. If he can't be lynched, then his townieness is ALMOST 100% proven when he doesn't get lynched. How the balls do you balance a game with a scum player who cannot be lynched? Role =/= alignment, but some roles are very, very telling because they simply can't be balanced for the other side. See the talk about phoenix wright or whatever from earlier. Unlynchable is NOT a balanced mechanic, and if he's so sure he won't be lynched, then his townieness will be proven out. He's so worried about getting town cred and about being listened to, yet he's conveniently forgotten that he is claiming that he will emerge from a lynch unscathed, immediately FORCING people to take him much more serious and townily. Does not compute. Look at you. You didn't post end-of-night reads, despite thinking you might get shot, because you knew you'd be back today. Foolishness claims to have a PM that says "you can't be lynched, bro," and yet he's not taking that into account in his play. He's lying. He's lying in his come-clean post. That ain't town.
I endorse this post.
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On March 14 2013 23:05 marvellosity wrote:a disinterested 3rd party made me a pretty picture
A truly disinterested one if he thinks you're right about what you say.
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disinterested = impartial dear
i good at englishhhhh
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On March 14 2013 22:59 Vivax wrote:
I mean, it's not hard to look like you're figuring things out when you have 24 pages of filter, that's 24/129 pages.
→ 18,6 % of the posts in this game are by marv, who "is" 3,3 % of the players in this game.
He probably beats Bill Murray by a long shot.
Why BM? Have you ever even played with BM? BM posts NOTHING like Marv (and not in quantity either). This is an exceedingly odd comparison. BM starts throwing out association cases and bollocks logic on D1 and never stops until he is inadvertently mislynched or vig shot. If I didn't have you down as Toad, I might think you were trying to roleplay BM this game.
Marv is posting nothing like that. He is posting like Marv does in pretty much every game I have played with him or read from him. And yes, that makes him dangerous, because his scumplay is somewhat similar, but I believe I have finally got the difference pegged down, after the MTG2 debacle, and this is his town game.
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For the record, as long as Cora's vote is taking up space:
On March 14 2013 00:54 kitaman27 wrote:
prplhz will be voting for Vivax this cycle
On March 14 2013 08:57 kitaman27 wrote:
slOosh has decided to sheep cDgCorazon this cycle. He must vote for whomever cDgCorazon decides to vote.
Read em. At the very least, the wording on the two vote-steals is different. And they operate differently, prplhz's vote went on vivax. slOosh "Decided to sheep corazon" and has to vote cora's vote.
Couple conclusions:
(1) One of these is bullshit, and is a power to broadcast a message to thread. The person with the "stolen vote" broadcasts that he lost a vote, votes accordingly, boom.
(2) Of the two, that looks more like prplhz. Cora actively posted with "slOosh's vote" making it seem like that was a legitimate steal
(3) The wording of the slOosh steal MAY indicate that slOosh is the one with the power though, because he "decided" to sheep corazon
I don't like slOosh for scum yet. All that nuke stuff was such a big fat townie-looking plan. But that's the one big thing he has in his favor, and maybe it's covering up little things like this. I don't want to lynch him today. I don't really want to be not-townie on him, because of the nuke stuff. But it's a possibility, especially given the vote-steal wording and the oddness of where the vote is placed.
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On March 14 2013 23:04 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 23:03 marvellosity wrote:On March 14 2013 22:59 marvellosity wrote:On March 14 2013 22:55 Acrofales wrote:
Come on guys, Cora openly slipped that he's the politician and he stole sloosh's vote.
Even if politician could be a town role this game, that use of it is worse than anything Yamato did.
The only town motivation I can think of for using it, is to use it on a strong scumread. Sloosh has never been a strong scumread of Cora's.
KILL Cora I'd missed this. Or at least glossed over it. Corazon should have been stealing Mocsta's vote. Or Acrofales' vote. Or my vote. Why is he stealing someone's vote who already wants to kill yamato? Acro brought this up. I'm gonna post it again even though I only just posted it because it's really important. he never mentioned the steal correct? i cant see it in his filter.
On March 14 2013 15:25 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 15:23 Mocsta wrote:On March 14 2013 15:14 cDgCorazon wrote:The King of Hearts is like a shepherd to his people. So in effect I am still the King and you all are my sheep. So sheep to me  So this is why Sl0osh vote can sheep you. So *making the assumption* you stole sl0osh vote.. why him? Just cause. Lynch me if you think I'm scum. I'm sick of your games and your hard-defending of Yamato.
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On March 14 2013 23:05 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 23:04 iamperfection wrote:On March 14 2013 23:03 marvellosity wrote:On March 14 2013 22:59 marvellosity wrote:On March 14 2013 22:55 Acrofales wrote:
Come on guys, Cora openly slipped that he's the politician and he stole sloosh's vote.
Even if politician could be a town role this game, that use of it is worse than anything Yamato did.
The only town motivation I can think of for using it, is to use it on a strong scumread. Sloosh has never been a strong scumread of Cora's.
KILL Cora I'd missed this. Or at least glossed over it. Corazon should have been stealing Mocsta's vote. Or Acrofales' vote. Or my vote. Why is he stealing someone's vote who already wants to kill yamato? Acro brought this up. I'm gonna post it again even though I only just posted it because it's really important. he never mentioned the steal correct? i cant see it in his filter. Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 12:37 cDgCorazon wrote:
Well, since Yamato is going to be nuked today by a North Korean nuke...
##Vote: Yamato
##Sloosh's Vote: Yamato
Once again, my plan is to lynch Yamato. He is scum and lynching him will get scum down to 2 KP. It can't get more simpler than that.
that's not mentioning it. that's using it. he never gave reasons for his steal.
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On March 14 2013 23:09 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 23:04 iamperfection wrote:On March 14 2013 23:03 marvellosity wrote:On March 14 2013 22:59 marvellosity wrote:On March 14 2013 22:55 Acrofales wrote:
Come on guys, Cora openly slipped that he's the politician and he stole sloosh's vote.
Even if politician could be a town role this game, that use of it is worse than anything Yamato did.
The only town motivation I can think of for using it, is to use it on a strong scumread. Sloosh has never been a strong scumread of Cora's.
KILL Cora I'd missed this. Or at least glossed over it. Corazon should have been stealing Mocsta's vote. Or Acrofales' vote. Or my vote. Why is he stealing someone's vote who already wants to kill yamato? Acro brought this up. I'm gonna post it again even though I only just posted it because it's really important. he never mentioned the steal correct? i cant see it in his filter. Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 15:25 cDgCorazon wrote:On March 14 2013 15:23 Mocsta wrote:On March 14 2013 15:14 cDgCorazon wrote:The King of Hearts is like a shepherd to his people. So in effect I am still the King and you all are my sheep. So sheep to me So this is why Sl0osh vote can sheep you. So *making the assumption* you stole sl0osh vote.. why him? Just cause. Lynch me if you think I'm scum. I'm sick of your games and your hard-defending of Yamato.
i think we are missing the point I'm trying to get at
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You know, marv could agree on lynching his scumread Crossfire and see who of Foolish or Ver are scum.
Marv says there's nothing about Ver to make him think he's town and prefers Foolish.
Marv claimed DT in the thread and didn't get shot nor roleblocked.
Marv cherrypicks and takes every chance to go ad hominem on people trying to figure the game out.
Marv says that a scum Foolish getting a nuke would not shoot a DT to make us believe he's town.
Cmon
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DarthPunk is replacing Ver, Everybody say hi!
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Sorry, (1) and (2) there aren't really conclusions. They're just suspicions/paranoia/whatever. But I don't like that we had two vote steals, with different messages and mechanics, and it leads me to believe that one is false
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On March 14 2013 23:11 Vivax wrote:
You know, marv could agree on lynching his scumread Crossfire and see who of Foolish or Ver are scum.
Marv says there's nothing about Ver to make him think he's town and prefers Foolish.
Marv claimed DT in the thread and didn't get shot nor roleblocked.
Marv cherrypicks and takes every chance to go ad hominem on people trying to figure the game out.
Marv says that a scum Foolish getting a nuke would not shoot a DT to make us believe he's town.
Cmon
for someone who shot their own scum buddy you put a lot of stock in associations.
marvs dt check is useless because he had to announce it why rb when he cant put any stock in it since its a closed setup.
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Well he used his DT check as reason to forget about Crossfire and go full out on Foolish apparently, so your argument would also apply to him. Why didn't you tell him his DT check was useless then?
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