Personality Mafia 2 - Page 143

On March 14 2013 23:12 austinmcc wrote:
Sorry, (1) and (2) there aren't really conclusions. They're just suspicions/paranoia/whatever. But I don't like that we had two vote steals, with different messages and mechanics, and it leads me to believe that one is false

On March 14 2013 23:13 iamperfection wrote:

for someone who shot their own scum buddy you put a lot of stock in associations.

On March 14 2013 23:14 Vivax wrote:
Well he used his DT check as reason to forget about Crossfire and go full out on Foolish apparently, so your argument would also apply to him. Why didn't you tell him his DT check was useless then?

On March 14 2013 23:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
imo ppl should try to vote for somebody else and then we'll seen if it's real.

On March 14 2013 23:16 cDgCorazon wrote:
4 things, and I'm out for this cycle:

Yamato, Mocsta, and Acro have all called me #1 scum and that I need to die, yet only Acro has his vote on me. It's just showing that they are afraid to put their vote where their mouth is. It's also scummy because they can continue to call me scum and look like they are scumhunting if they kept me around.

It's obvious that Vivax, Foolishness, Sloosh (in a way), and I are the only ones using our brains this game and that we are mostly of the same alignment (or Vivax and Foolishness are scum just piggybacking on my argument), and that Acro, Yamato, and Mocsta are of the same alignment because they all get hard-ons for defending each other (Hint: they're all scum).

Hi DP =)

Happy Birthday Iamp =) (unless it was yesterday)

Later. Vote me or shoot me Yamato. You're playing so scared and opposite from your town game. It's so sad that you are not on the table.

On March 14 2013 23:16 iamperfection wrote:

he knows it's useless.

On March 14 2013 23:19 iamperfection wrote:

maybe you shouldn't be wasting your vote if your going to be out.

On March 14 2013 23:03 austinmcc wrote:
Here's what this bit comes down to:

Do you believe Foolishness is a batman-posting-restriction/unlynchable/fake-1-shot-vigi? Do you think Foolishness received a PM telling him that he was all of those things? If you do, I think you're ridiculous. If you don't, then Foolishness's big reputation-restoration post isn't fully truthful.

If nothing else, this line:Read this bit Supersoft. Read this bit anyone who thinks Foolishness posted a big ol' pile of truthful thoughts.

(1) I tried to kill yamato 2x "to get people to see that I'm town"
(2) "Since I can't be lynched I thought that this would again put me back on track and get people to listen to me"

Read (2) again. Read (2) again, slowly. Again, he's saying he can't be lynched. Yet he's worried about getting town to listen to him. And he's admitting that he hasn't had much time to play, hasn't been able to analyze everything. There are TWO problems there.

If he can't be lynched, then his townieness is ALMOST 100% proven when he doesn't get lynched. How the balls do you balance a game with a scum player who cannot be lynched? Role =/= alignment, but some roles are very, very telling because they simply can't be balanced for the other side. See the talk about phoenix wright or whatever from earlier. Unlynchable is NOT a balanced mechanic, and if he's so sure he won't be lynched, then his townieness will be proven out. He's so worried about getting town cred and about being listened to, yet he's conveniently forgotten that he is claiming that he will emerge from a lynch unscathed, immediately FORCING people to take him much more serious and townily. Does not compute.

Look at you. You didn't post end-of-night reads, despite thinking you might get shot, because you knew you'd be back today. Foolishness claims to have a PM that says "you can't be lynched, bro," and yet he's not taking that into account in his play. He's lying. He's lying in his come-clean post. That ain't town.

On March 14 2013 23:09 austinmcc wrote:
For the record, as long as Cora's vote is taking up space:



Read em. At the very least, the wording on the two vote-steals is different. And they operate differently, prplhz's vote went on vivax. slOosh "Decided to sheep corazon" and has to vote cora's vote.

Couple conclusions:
(1) One of these is bullshit, and is a power to broadcast a message to thread. The person with the "stolen vote" broadcasts that he lost a vote, votes accordingly, boom.
(2) Of the two, that looks more like prplhz. Cora actively posted with "slOosh's vote" making it seem like that was a legitimate steal
(3) The wording of the slOosh steal MAY indicate that slOosh is the one with the power though, because he "decided" to sheep corazon


I don't like slOosh for scum yet. All that nuke stuff was such a big fat townie-looking plan. But that's the one big thing he has in his favor, and maybe it's covering up little things like this. I don't want to lynch him today. I don't really want to be not-townie on him, because of the nuke stuff. But it's a possibility, especially given the vote-steal wording and the oddness of where the vote is placed.

On March 14 2013 23:22 Vivax wrote:
Oh well this usually works with fanboy towns like this as shown in LX:

Hey guys I'm sandroba playing from Vivax's account sheep me cause my name is leet and stuff.

And with this, gl on lynching Foolish.

On March 14 2013 23:11 iamperfection wrote:

i think we are missing the point I'm trying to get at

On March 14 2013 23:23 austinmcc wrote:
Happy birthday iamp.

Cora. Stop for a second.

(1) Are you stealing slOosh's vote?
(2) If so, why?

(3) Can you put yamato off for a day? This is an honest request. Whether he's scum or town or 3P or a dog sitting at the computer, it's unlikely we flip him today. If we ever flip him, you're making WAY too much out of what that would do. Him flipping scum doesn't make you magically town, because you could have just tunnelled a scumbuddy and tanked your cred this game, it's a very, very easy way to coast through a game.

(4) Read Foolishness's post. Read his claim. Read his claimed actions. Do they sit well with you? Why/Why not?

On March 14 2013 05:37 cDgCorazon wrote:
Missed his latest vote, now he's just sheeping on Foolishness now that discussion has gone away from me. Still is scummy.

On March 14 2013 23:16 cDgCorazon wrote:

It's obvious that Vivax, Foolishness, Sloosh (in a way), and I are the only ones using our brains this game and that we are mostly of the same alignment (or Vivax and Foolishness are scum just piggybacking on my argument), and that Acro, Yamato, and Mocsta are of the same alignment because they all get hard-ons for defending each other (Hint: they're all scum).

On March 14 2013 23:25 Acrofales wrote:

Then explain it better. You asked where Cora had said he had stolen sloosh's vote. Well, there.

On March 14 2013 23:26 marvellosity wrote:


austin, I think you'll agree with me that Foolishness is both one of the most important and most controversial players in this entire game yes? Lots of suspicion on him, now he's made a stir, he was a favourite lynch candidate.

Here is the entirety of Corazon's filter where he mentions Foolishness:





Seriously. How can you avoid commenting on Foolishness that much? It's practically impossible.