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On March 14 2013 03:11 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 03:07 marvellosity wrote:On March 14 2013 03:06 Acrofales wrote:On March 14 2013 03:05 marvellosity wrote:On March 14 2013 03:04 Acrofales wrote:On March 14 2013 03:00 strongandbig wrote:On March 14 2013 02:59 Acrofales wrote:
/facepalm
Anyway, I don't know why we are speculating about the nuke being real. If it is, we kill Foolishness. If it isn't, we kill Foolishness tomorrow. In the meantime, we should kill someone else.
SS: for a confirmed townie who is hanging around to give us guidance, you are not guiding much. Do you agree with me that Cora is scum? If not, who should we kill today? KP reduction - seems like it makes sense to kill a for-sure scum today So we waste a day by all sheeping onto Foolishness with no discussion. Lets have the discussion instead and we might net a second scum. There are 4 scum in addition to Foolishness. Don't be lazy. What do you think of Cora? Do you still think Oats is scum? you checked Foolish's meta? the things I posted? still think he's like "nullish"?? Did the post you quoted sound like I still think he's null? You convinced me. You just didn't convince me we should lynch him when there's a nuke flying at his face. When there's a potential nuke flying at his face, with a message from a very likely scummer telling us the nukes are real. Hiro was right, handing out 3 day KPs as an invention or whatever sounds ridiculously OP. Yeah, but I think three duds would also be stupid. So one of them is probably real. It's worth waiting and seeing which.
no, that's an atrocious solution.
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On March 14 2013 03:11 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 03:07 marvellosity wrote:On March 14 2013 03:06 Acrofales wrote:On March 14 2013 03:05 marvellosity wrote:On March 14 2013 03:04 Acrofales wrote:On March 14 2013 03:00 strongandbig wrote:On March 14 2013 02:59 Acrofales wrote:
/facepalm
Anyway, I don't know why we are speculating about the nuke being real. If it is, we kill Foolishness. If it isn't, we kill Foolishness tomorrow. In the meantime, we should kill someone else.
SS: for a confirmed townie who is hanging around to give us guidance, you are not guiding much. Do you agree with me that Cora is scum? If not, who should we kill today? KP reduction - seems like it makes sense to kill a for-sure scum today So we waste a day by all sheeping onto Foolishness with no discussion. Lets have the discussion instead and we might net a second scum. There are 4 scum in addition to Foolishness. Don't be lazy. What do you think of Cora? Do you still think Oats is scum? you checked Foolish's meta? the things I posted? still think he's like "nullish"?? Did the post you quoted sound like I still think he's null? You convinced me. You just didn't convince me we should lynch him when there's a nuke flying at his face. When there's a potential nuke flying at his face, with a message from a very likely scummer telling us the nukes are real. Hiro was right, handing out 3 day KPs as an invention or whatever sounds ridiculously OP. Yeah, but I think three duds would also be stupid. So one of them is probably real. It's worth waiting and seeing which.
No it's not.
scum would eagerly hand out/use 3 duds for exactly that line of thinking.
You want to bank on the chances that 1) there are real nukes in the first place
2) cross is town
3) exactly the one targetting fool is a real one
Too many assumptions imo.
A lynch is a lynch and makes people dead that need to die. Sound good to me, much as I'd like kicking Vivax.
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hey Dandel. Do you think you'll live through the night now you announced you're protecting me? ^^
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Look at what you're doing. You're discussing if the nukes are real or not and who they hit or not to discuss lynch targets that seem to be predefined instead of discussing the lynch targets themselves and why they should be scum.
There is lots of spam people don't pick up on the last posts of the dead guys, no they prefer to pick up on saying "Oh well it was just VE's fake list fuck the rest".
Meanwhile scum doesn't give a fuck cause they know who you want to lynch and the only thing you're discussing is the if in who you want to lynch if, not the who.
Dig up a few suspicious quotes instead, look at some voting patterns, guess on which wagon scum was on D1 no?
More importantly answer this question honestly: Which alignment does yamato have when he posts as much as in this game, basically close to nothing? He additionally shot a townie for weak reasons.
Who was on the yamato wagon? 2 flipped townies + me as another townie. Who was on the crossfire and Bugs wagons? Likely scum cause they could have gotten yamato lynched if they wanted to but instead they obviously decided it was better to defend him. Why? Cause yamato is scum simple.
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@Vivax: I don't think the Yamato wagon is very meaningful, because I still think he's town. Plus, if Foolishness' nuke works, he's dead tonight and THEN you can make your association cases. Especially as I think Cora is scum and Sloosh has a damned good chance of being scum too.
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Vivax, answer me this:
what about the meta arguments for Foolish do you find unconvincing?
Indeed - what about Foolishness' own analysis of his play do you find unconvincing?
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Sup dudes, caller here. Oh wat?
The Plan
Give various people NUKEs. Two reasons
a) See how people use it. Do they treat it carefully? Do they trust it? Do they just shoot whatever?
b) If multiple scum members received it, there will be information leak. They know that multiple NUKEs were given. Information pump yea?
c) My last night post was designed in a way where it seemed like they had to fire the NUKEs or it blows up on themselves. Dunno how well this worked or not, but there is more information if people use it rather than if people don't.
d) I have ANTI NUKE countermeasures so it doesn't matter if I hand them to scum - in fact it is better because we see true motives come out.
e) (for him who knows) You town. I'm glad.
I'm saying this all now because enough information has passed and we need time to properly look over it (I'm still doing it myself).
p.s. Vivax please cut back on the spam. I understand where you are coming from, I really do, but it is disrupting what we are doing here. The way that marv is handling this NUKE business is one of the most sensible of the lot. Leave him alone for this day cycle please.
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Also I am sorry supersoft for giving you grief. Plz come back and win gamez
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congratulations for ruining the thread, slOosh.
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So all the nukes are real but you can stop whichever you like?
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I will discuss Foolish when I'm back from training in 2-3 hours. Meanwhile could you expand on the points why you think that the evidence doesn't point to yamato being scum?
Please don't say he could have stayed silent about his claim cause there's no way he was an anonymous dayvig.
Since, if yamato is scum, then there's a crapload of information for us to gain on other people's alignments.
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On March 14 2013 03:34 slOosh wrote:
Sup dudes, caller here. Oh wat?
The Plan
Give various people NUKEs. Two reasons
a) See how people use it. Do they treat it carefully? Do they trust it? Do they just shoot whatever?
b) If multiple scum members received it, there will be information leak. They know that multiple NUKEs were given. Information pump yea?
c) My last night post was designed in a way where it seemed like they had to fire the NUKEs or it blows up on themselves. Dunno how well this worked or not, but there is more information if people use it rather than if people don't.
d) I have ANTI NUKE countermeasures so it doesn't matter if I hand them to scum - in fact it is better because we see true motives come out.
e) (for him who knows) You town. I'm glad.
I'm saying this all now because enough information has passed and we need time to properly look over it (I'm still doing it myself).
p.s. Vivax please cut back on the spam. I understand where you are coming from, I really do, but it is disrupting what we are doing here. The way that marv is handling this NUKE business is one of the most sensible of the lot. Leave him alone for this day cycle please.
Are the nukes real? If you have anti nuke countermeasures you probably want to use them on foolish's and vivax's nukes. Also, point c worked cause that's why I didn't wait to fire until another day.
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On March 14 2013 03:38 Vivax wrote:
I will discuss Foolish when I'm back from training in 2-3 hours. Meanwhile could you expand on the points why you think that the evidence doesn't point to yamato being scum?
Please don't say he could have stayed silent about his claim cause there's no way he was an anonymous dayvig.
Since, if yamato is scum, then there's a crapload of information for us to gain on other people's alignments.
Foolishness and corazon, 2 of the absolutely most suspicious people in the game, were on yamato.
You're using incomplete association cases pre-flip. There's too many assumptions.
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Acro, I would switch to cora, but I am also comfortable with Vivax dying, so I have no real preference as long as one of them dies.
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If you honestly think I ruined it I apologize, but I think I brought about a wealth of useful information.
I have ANTI NUKE countermeasures.
Proper discussion of player behavior and actions and justification does not require me to explain further.
Deciding who to lynch of course does, so I'll explain clearly at like, midday or something.
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On March 14 2013 03:40 slOosh wrote:
If you honestly think I ruined it I apologize, but I think I brought about a wealth of useful information.
I have ANTI NUKE countermeasures.
Proper discussion of player behavior and actions and justification does not require me to explain further.
Deciding who to lynch of course does, so I'll explain clearly at like, midday or something.
So to clarify again, all the nukes are real but you can cancel whichever you choose?
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On March 14 2013 03:40 slOosh wrote:
If you honestly think I ruined it I apologize, but I think I brought about a wealth of useful information.
I have ANTI NUKE countermeasures.
Proper discussion of player behavior and actions and justification does not require me to explain further.
Deciding who to lynch of course does, so I'll explain clearly at like, midday or something.
Just tell us if they're real so we can let foolish die from my nuke or lynch him instead if they're fake like marv wants to do.
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Ah mah gash so much information.
Crossfire, explain clearly what you thought when you received your NUKE and the thought process leading up to deciding how to use it.
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answer my question sloosh.
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Phone post:
Remember that mafia has fake claims. Don't believe everything you read..
Why am I being voted before Yamato's flip? If his nuke is real and he flips scum, won't it change the opinion on me. Marv's
Vote and Acro's suspicion don't make any sense at all. It just looks like scum trying to hop on my bandwagon (more Acro's suspicion than Marv's vote).
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